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Everyone who picked the Cavs to win the series forgot one very important thing

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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    3-1
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    PurpleJ said:

    3-1

    SLITP!
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Anybody that picked the Cavs simply subscribed to the idea that the best player in the series is LBJ, that the Cavs won last year, and therefore would win this year ...

    They forgot the following:

    1) Last year was a bit of a fluke

    2) Warriors got SIGNIFICANTLY better by adding Durant

    3) The dirty secret that LBJ may not be EASILY the best player on the court anymore (if at all) ...
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Anybody that picked the Cavs simply subscribed to the idea that the best player in the series is LBJ, that the Cavs won last year, and therefore would win this year ...

    They forgot the following:

    1) Last year was a bit of a fluke

    2) Warriors got SIGNIFICANTLY better by adding Durant

    3) The dirty secret that LBJ may not be EASILY the best player on the court anymore (if at all) ...

    I like our chances.
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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    Hate to agree with Tequila in a basketball thread, but last year was insanely fluky.

    You had the Tom Rinaladi and fat face Cleveland special about their lack of championships.

    Hurt Curry

    Suspended Draymond

    It was destiny.

    Take the screenshots, here comes the sweep.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Can you honestly say that LBJ is better than Durant at this point?

    And I don't think that the Warriors would trade KD for LBJ straight up
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Tequilla said:

    Can you honestly say that LBJ is better than Durant at this point?

    And I don't think that the Warriors would trade KD for LBJ straight up

    Yes Brons better.

    Agree GS isn't making that trade. Neither is Cleveland.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,783 Founders Club
    Great teams don't lose by a "fluke". They win. The Warriors lost. Game 7 at home and they lost.

    So far Durant has lost a Finals 4-1 and blown a 3-1 lead in the WCF. Now he is hiding behind the Big 3 at Golden State who are 1-1 in the Finals without him.

    Lebron is in his 7th straight finals, 8 total.

    Durant is clearly better. fuck
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    My Preds just came back from 2-0 down to tie it up at home. The people acting like the series is over are silly. LIPO.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    PurpleJ said:

    My Preds just came back from 2-0 down to tie it up at home. The people acting like the series is over are silly. LIPO.

    Your Preds have nothing to do with a basketball series, but agree.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    RaceBannon said:

    Great teams don't lose by a "fluke". They win. The Warriors lost. Game 7 at home and they lost.

    So far Durant has lost a Finals 4-1 and blown a 3-1 lead in the WCF. Now he is hiding behind the Big 3 at Golden State who are 1-1 in the Finals without him.

    Lebron is in his 7th straight finals, 8 total.

    Durant is clearly better. fuck

    Laughable

    Last year's Finals was a fluke ... but it happened and congrats to LBJ and the Cavs ... they literally needed EVERYTHING to go right for them to come back from 3-1 down and they got it

    Durant's blowing of a 3-1 lead to the Warriors last year is as much on Westbrook and the rest of his team than it is on him ... if you don't understand that then you likely never will ...

    If talking about KD's Finals loss as a strike against him ... what about LBJ's losses in the Finals?
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Great teams don't lose by a "fluke". They win. The Warriors lost. Game 7 at home and they lost.

    So far Durant has lost a Finals 4-1 and blown a 3-1 lead in the WCF. Now he is hiding behind the Big 3 at Golden State who are 1-1 in the Finals without him.

    Lebron is in his 7th straight finals, 8 total.

    Durant is clearly better. fuck

    If you haven't noticed that Tequilla hates LeBron, I can't help you.
    He's a great player but not my cup of tea ... I think he has some unique advantages that enable him to be ahead of many others from the word go similar to Wilt and Shaq ...

    For players that are just flat out genetically superior, I do think that they have a different bar to measure themselves against
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,783 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Great teams don't lose by a "fluke". They win. The Warriors lost. Game 7 at home and they lost.

    So far Durant has lost a Finals 4-1 and blown a 3-1 lead in the WCF. Now he is hiding behind the Big 3 at Golden State who are 1-1 in the Finals without him.

    Lebron is in his 7th straight finals, 8 total.

    Durant is clearly better. fuck

    Laughable

    Last year's Finals was a fluke ... but it happened and congrats to LBJ and the Cavs ... they literally needed EVERYTHING to go right for them to come back from 3-1 down and they got it

    Durant's blowing of a 3-1 lead to the Warriors last year is as much on Westbrook and the rest of his team than it is on him ... if you don't understand that then you likely never will ...

    If talking about KD's Finals loss as a strike against him ... what about LBJ's losses in the Finals?
    So you are acknowledging that the Warriors are not in any discussion of all time great teams.

    When Durant has three rings we can discuss how many finals he needs on top of that. Magic was 5-4.

    James has been ripped for every game he has ever lost. Durant gets a pass because he's a pussy.

    Going back to back is the minimum requirement for a great team.

    Celtics, Lakers more than once. Bulls - 2 three peats. Heat back to back. James has a chance to do it with two different teams.

    But Durant is better
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Last year's Warriors are not an all time great ... they lost in the Finals

    If they win 2 in 3 years (and who knows what else they will do) we can revisit where they stand from a long term perspective

    If they go through the playoffs this year 16-0 then you have to put them in the discussion for best single season team ever

    The 86 Celtics are widely considered in the discussion of best team ever - they never repeated
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,783 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Last year's Warriors are not an all time great ... they lost in the Finals

    If they win 2 in 3 years (and who knows what else they will do) we can revisit where they stand from a long term perspective

    If they go through the playoffs this year 16-0 then you have to put them in the discussion for best single season team ever

    The 86 Celtics are widely considered in the discussion of best team ever - they never repeated

    The 86 Celtics are white. Hope this helps. If they were black they'd be just another team. Like the Warriors
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    RaceBannon said:

    Tequilla said:

    Last year's Warriors are not an all time great ... they lost in the Finals

    If they win 2 in 3 years (and who knows what else they will do) we can revisit where they stand from a long term perspective

    If they go through the playoffs this year 16-0 then you have to put them in the discussion for best single season team ever

    The 86 Celtics are widely considered in the discussion of best team ever - they never repeated

    The 86 Celtics are white. Hope this helps. If they were black they'd be just another team. Like the Warriors
    That's LaVar Ball stupid
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Great teams don't lose by a "fluke". They win. The Warriors lost. Game 7 at home and they lost.

    So far Durant has lost a Finals 4-1 and blown a 3-1 lead in the WCF. Now he is hiding behind the Big 3 at Golden State who are 1-1 in the Finals without him.

    Lebron is in his 7th straight finals, 8 total.

    Durant is clearly better. fuck

    If you haven't noticed that Tequilla hates LeBron, I can't help you.
    I don't like LeBron at all. But he's Jordan and Russell combined compared to Durant.
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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    Durant is still 28. This is when all the greats really start hitting their stride.

    As of now, Lebron is for sure better, mainly because of his durability and ability to bully his way to the rim.

    If I picked a team today I would choose Durant.

    If LeBron proves me wrong again then he's the GOAT.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    Doogles said:

    Durant is still 28. This is when all the greats really start hitting their stride.

    As of now, Lebron is for sure better, mainly because of his durability and ability to bully his way to the rim.

    If I picked a team today I would choose Durant.

    If LeBron proves me wrong again then he's the GOAT.

    LeBron is simply a better all around player. He always has been and he still is.

    Durant has always been #2 though. Injuries, Curry, and Westbrook no longer willing to be #2 made his hype lessen, but he was still #2.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    People forget that Kevin Durant is only the fourth best player on the Warriors.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,783 Founders Club
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    People forget that Kevin Durant is only the fourth best player on the Warriors.

    He's better than McGhee?
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  • RavennaDawg
    RavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    The title that was the fluke was 2015. When was the last team to play in the finals without it's #2 and #3 players? And still win 2 games?

    GS really needs a win this year to get that Mozgov-sized asterisk off their ring.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RaceBannon said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    People forget that Kevin Durant is only the fourth best player on the Warriors.

    He's better than McGhee?
    No. He's better than KKKlay.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    RavennaDawg said:

    The title that was the fluke was 2015. When was the last team to play in the finals without it's #2 and #3 players? And still win 2 games?

    GS really needs a win this year to get that Mozgov-sized asterisk off their ring.

    This is becoming a tug argument. We can recognize LeBron's greatness and admit these Warrior teams, especially this one, are great teams.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    Tequilla said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Great teams don't lose by a "fluke". They win. The Warriors lost. Game 7 at home and they lost.

    So far Durant has lost a Finals 4-1 and blown a 3-1 lead in the WCF. Now he is hiding behind the Big 3 at Golden State who are 1-1 in the Finals without him.

    Lebron is in his 7th straight finals, 8 total.

    Durant is clearly better. fuck

    If you haven't noticed that Tequilla hates LeBron, I can't help you.
    He's a great player but not my cup of tea ... I think he has some unique advantages that enable him to be ahead of many others from the word go similar to Wilt and Shaq ...

    For players that are just flat out genetically superior, I do think that they have a different bar to measure themselves against
    This is so fucking stupid. He's incredibly gifted AND is a basketball genius. Best passer in the league.

    This dude is so great you actually pretend like he wasn't incredible last game. And as incredible as he was, it was a routine fucking game for the guy.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    LBJ was the 3rd (at best) most influential player on the floor in Game 3 ... he also disappeared in the 2nd half ...

    Anything less than being the clear most influential player tonight = another Cavs loss
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Tequilla said:

    LBJ was the 3rd (at best) most influential player on the floor in Game 3 ... he also disappeared in the 2nd half ...

    Anything less than being the clear most influential player tonight = another Cavs loss

    Cleveland won game 3
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