LeBron
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PurpleJ said:
I like him because he does that thing where he throws the white power in the air before games.
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MJ is not the greatest if your measure is rings. Bill Russell and several of his team mates are. Robert Horry is better.
MJ and Lebron both won titles with worse teams than any of the other contenders. But MJ also relied on Kerr and Paxson to hit big shots.
MJ also had a pass once he made the finals. He played shit teams like Portland and Seattle and the injured over the hill Lakers. Once the Pistons imploded he had no competition in the east either.
Enjoy Lebron while you can. There is no one on the horizon that we will be having this argument about again anytime soon -
The freedom of movement rules make LBJ a beast as he's a genetic freak with his size/speed combo ... there has never been anybody like him to play the game ... then add to it with the skill set of players morphing into a drive and kick league for 3's and that's as optimal as you can get for LBJ ...
If he goes back and plays in the 80s or 90s where you could legitimately walk off the lane with multiple approaches and things change a bit
But the idea that Jordan wouldn't have been as dominating (at minimum) in today's world is laughable ... he'd be impossible to stop -
Dude stop. LeBron is bigger and stronger than anyone who could have blocked the lane in the 80's. He would have been great in any era.Tequilla said:The freedom of movement rules make LBJ a beast as he's a genetic freak with his size/speed combo ... there has never been anybody like him to play the game ... then add to it with the skill set of players morphing into a drive and kick league for 3's and that's as optimal as you can get for LBJ ...
If he goes back and plays in the 80s or 90s where you could legitimately walk off the lane with multiple approaches and things change a bit
But the idea that Jordan wouldn't have been as dominating (at minimum) in today's world is laughable ... he'd be impossible to stop
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I drank the Lebron haterade until he won it all last year. He doesn't have MJ's legacy yet, but it certainly is within striking distance now. If he would have lost last year to the Warriors then that dream of being as legendary as MJ would have been out the window. He put the team on his back though and proved to be the alpha.
As a player Lebron is leagues better than MJ ever was in terms of skill/size/athleticism, however, you could argue that a few others since MJ have been as well. It's hard to compare completely different era's as the game and players are always evolving. The NBA now is a pussified offensive stats padding league compared to the MJ era.
It's dumb to just compare MJs total rings to Lebrons at this point just as it is dumb to compare Lebron's modern day inflated NBA stats (he is going to shatter everything Jordan did). You have to look at it from a much broader view. At this point Lebron is #2 but I think he will end up #1 because of how he has evolved his game from an athletic freak to a well rounded floor general, he still has quite a few elite years left.
It's hard.
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You know I don't watch preseason scrimmagesRoadDawg55 said:I used to hate on Lebron a bit. He's corny, he doesn't have anywhere MJ's charisma, but are you guys not watching how he is playing? You really think he's not sustaining this level for awhile? He's already lost some as an athlete and is a better player than ever.
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Please go set yourself on fire for insulting LeBron by comparing him to a loser that has never made the playoffs.dnc said:
He's damn good. He's in my top 3 of all time.RoadDawg55 said:I used to hate on Lebron a bit. He's corny, he doesn't have anywhere MJ's charisma, but are you guys not watching how he is playing? You really think he's not sustaining this level for awhile? He's already lost some as an athlete and is a better player than ever.
But he's still a bitch who has asterisks by two his three titles (game 6's when he could have been eliminated saved by Allen 3 pointer and Green suspension). Winners win, and he's a winner. But when comparing to MJ, that stuff matters. MJ's six titles have zero asterisks. He never even went to a game 7 in the finals let alone faced elimination in game 6.
Felix continued as a dominant pitcher for a couple years after he lost his fastball, but shit catches up to you. Bron's lost his fastball. He's adjusted and is still at the top of his game. But he's not going to be dominant for another three years.
He'll never catch Jordan. -
Yes because one player can carry a baseball team to the playoffs like one NBA star can.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Please go set yourself on fire for insulting LeBron by comparing him to a loser that has never made the playoffs.dnc said:
He's damn good. He's in my top 3 of all time.RoadDawg55 said:I used to hate on Lebron a bit. He's corny, he doesn't have anywhere MJ's charisma, but are you guys not watching how he is playing? You really think he's not sustaining this level for awhile? He's already lost some as an athlete and is a better player than ever.
But he's still a bitch who has asterisks by two his three titles (game 6's when he could have been eliminated saved by Allen 3 pointer and Green suspension). Winners win, and he's a winner. But when comparing to MJ, that stuff matters. MJ's six titles have zero asterisks. He never even went to a game 7 in the finals let alone faced elimination in game 6.
Felix continued as a dominant pitcher for a couple years after he lost his fastball, but shit catches up to you. Bron's lost his fastball. He's adjusted and is still at the top of his game. But he's not going to be dominant for another three years.
He'll never catch Jordan. -
LBJ is a great player ... but he isn't Jordan ... that's the only person I'm comparing him to herednc said:
Dude stop. LeBron is bigger and stronger than anyone who could have blocked the lane in the 80's. He would have been great in any era.Tequilla said:The freedom of movement rules make LBJ a beast as he's a genetic freak with his size/speed combo ... there has never been anybody like him to play the game ... then add to it with the skill set of players morphing into a drive and kick league for 3's and that's as optimal as you can get for LBJ ...
If he goes back and plays in the 80s or 90s where you could legitimately walk off the lane with multiple approaches and things change a bit
But the idea that Jordan wouldn't have been as dominating (at minimum) in today's world is laughable ... he'd be impossible to stop
He's just not Jordan. -
He and Jordan are completely different players. I don't have any problem with someone saying LeBron is better, he has a historically unprecedented game and is playing in the era of superteams. If you had to pick one player in history to start a team with, it's a coin flip.
edit: An interesting question is that if you could pick one player in their absolute prime to anchor a team, who would it be? There is an argument to be made for Shaq or Hakeem in that convo too imo.
