He and Jordan are completely different players. I don't have any problem with someone saying LeBron is better, he has a historically unprecedented game and is playing in the era of superteams. If you had to pick one player in history to start a team with, it's a coin flip.
edit: An interesting question is that if you could pick one player in their absolute prime to anchor a team, who would it be? There is an argument to be made for Shaq or Hakeem in that convo too imo.
He and Jordan are completely different players. I don't have any problem with someone saying LeBron is better, he has a historically unprecedented game and is playing in the era of superteams. If you had to pick one player in history to start a team with, it's a coin flip.
edit: An interesting question is that if you could pick one player in their absolute prime to anchor a team, who would it be? There is an argument to be made for Shaq or Hakeem in that convo too imo.
He and Jordan are completely different players. I don't have any problem with someone saying LeBron is better, he has a historically unprecedented game and is playing in the era of superteams. If you had to pick one player in history to start a team with, it's a coin flip.
edit: An interesting question is that if you could pick one player in their absolute prime to anchor a team, who would it be? There is an argument to be made for Shaq or Hakeem in that convo too imo.
Jordan.
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The funny thing is I hate Jordan (#Soonic) and I hate the Tar Heels (#BlueDoovil).
He and Jordan are completely different players. I don't have any problem with someone saying LeBron is better, he has a historically unprecedented game and is playing in the era of superteams. If you had to pick one player in history to start a team with, it's a coin flip.
edit: An interesting question is that if you could pick one player in their absolute prime to anchor a team, who would it be? There is an argument to be made for Shaq or Hakeem in that convo too imo.
Kareem Abdul Jabbar or Bill Russell in the old days when centers roamed the earth
He and Jordan are completely different players. I don't have any problem with someone saying LeBron is better, he has a historically unprecedented game and is playing in the era of superteams. If you had to pick one player in history to start a team with, it's a coin flip.
edit: An interesting question is that if you could pick one player in their absolute prime to anchor a team, who would it be? There is an argument to be made for Shaq or Hakeem in that convo too imo.
Kareem Abdul Jabbar or Bill Russell in the old days when centers roamed the earth
He and Jordan are completely different players. I don't have any problem with someone saying LeBron is better, he has a historically unprecedented game and is playing in the era of superteams. If you had to pick one player in history to start a team with, it's a coin flip.
edit: An interesting question is that if you could pick one player in their absolute prime to anchor a team, who would it be? There is an argument to be made for Shaq or Hakeem in that convo too imo.
Kareem Abdul Jabbar or Bill Russell in the old days when centers roamed the earth
Lebron or MJ in the new era
I agree with that top 4, though Magic is close.
Chica, I'd find a cave somewhere in the congo, club you silly and have my way with you caveman style. , id even hunt and gather so you'd have something in your tummy when the ball sauce trickled on down.
I'm so old I used to argue against Jordan and say that Magic or Kareem or the Doctor or the Russell Celts were better and Jordan hasn't done shit and he'll never have the rings. I even liked Earl Monroe way better. He was who I was in the driveway shooting hoops alone.
I came to accept Jordan as the GOAT, kind of, because I still think the old school guys were way tuffer like you guys think MJ was tuffer than Lebron.
We like the guys we grew up with the best. We rip anyone who comes after and threatens them. Then we accept what is and argue about another one.
But Lebron could have played thug ball if that is what was being played.
I'm so old I used to argue against Jordan and say that Magic or Kareem or the Doctor or the Russell Celts were better and Jordan hasn't done shit and he'll never have the rings. I even liked Earl Monroe way better. He was who I was in the driveway shooting hoops alone.
I came to accept Jordan as the GOAT, kind of, because I still think the old school guys were way tuffer like you guys think MJ was tuffer than Lebron.
We like the guys we grew up with the best. We rip anyone who comes after and threatens them. Then we accept what is and argue about another one.
But Lebron could have played thug ball if that is what was being played.
This. Everyone always points to "but LeBron wouldn't be as great against 80's defense!!!" while completely ignoring how much of a defensive monster he'd have been playing in that era.
He and Jordan are completely different players. I don't have any problem with someone saying LeBron is better, he has a historically unprecedented game and is playing in the era of superteams. If you had to pick one player in history to start a team with, it's a coin flip.
edit: An interesting question is that if you could pick one player in their absolute prime to anchor a team, who would it be? There is an argument to be made for Shaq or Hakeem in that convo too imo.
It's LeBron... mainly because he's the only one who's proven he can single handedly carry a team when everything else is shit. His entire first stint in Cleveland and the 2015 finals when Irving and Love were injured is the proof.
I'm so old I used to argue against Jordan and say that Magic or Kareem or the Doctor or the Russell Celts were better and Jordan hasn't done shit and he'll never have the rings. I even liked Earl Monroe way better. He was who I was in the driveway shooting hoops alone.
I came to accept Jordan as the GOAT, kind of, because I still think the old school guys were way tuffer like you guys think MJ was tuffer than Lebron.
We like the guys we grew up with the best. We rip anyone who comes after and threatens them. Then we accept what is and argue about another one.
But Lebron could have played thug ball if that is what was being played.
This. Everyone always points to "but LeBron wouldn't be as great against 80's defense!!!" while completely ignoring how much of a defensive monster he'd have been playing in that era.
I agree with this. He'd have been helped as much or more than he was hurt by that era.
Lebron still has the stain of JJ Barea guarding him in the Finals. But he's done some legendary things that are inching him closer to Jordan.
Game 6 at Boston, Lebron had the best performance I've ever seen. That Spurs series was incredible. And last year is the one that makes passing Jordan possible imho. Michael Jordan was the best player on the best team of all time but only because Lebron beat the 73 win Warriors.
I think all the talk about it needs to simmer until the Finals though. There's a real chance the Warriors sweep and it's going to be hard to make the pro Lebron argument if that happens.
Lebron still has the stain of JJ Barea guarding him in the Finals. But he's done some legendary things that are inching him closer to Jordan.
Game 6 at Boston, Lebron had the best performance I've ever seen. That Spurs series was incredible. And last year is the one that makes passing Jordan possible imho. Michael Jordan was the best player on the best team of all time but only because Lebron beat the 73 win Warriors.
I think all the talk about it needs to simmer until the Finals though. There's a real chance the Warriors sweep and it's going to be hard to make the pro Lebron argument if that happens.
Agree that Dallas is the festering sore on his record. He'd be 4 and 3.
I drank the Lebron haterade until he won it all last year. He doesn't have MJ's legacy yet, but it certainly is within striking distance now. If he would have lost last year to the Warriors then that dream of being as legendary as MJ would have been out the window. He put the team on his back though and proved to be the alpha.
As a player Lebron is leagues better than MJ ever was in terms of skill/size/athleticism, however, you could argue that a few others since MJ have been as well. It's hard to compare completely different era's as the game and players are always evolving. The NBA now is a pussified offensive stats padding league compared to the MJ era.
It's dumb to just compare MJs total rings to Lebrons at this point just as it is dumb to compare Lebron's modern day inflated NBA stats (he is going to shatter everything Jordan did). You have to look at it from a much broader view. At this point Lebron is #2 but I think he will end up #1 because of how he has evolved his game from an athletic freak to a well rounded floor general, he still has quite a few elite years left.
It's hard.
Came to post pretty much the same thing. After what he did in the finals last year how can anyone say otherwise? He is unquestionably in striking distance. Some people for whatever reason (being an AAU crybaby, running away to the Heat, etc) decided to hate him and wrote him off permanently. And LOLOLOL @ using the generation argument against him. LeBron in the 90s would beast the shit out of people.
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MJ was just better than anybody else though.
Lebron or MJ in the new era
I came to accept Jordan as the GOAT, kind of, because I still think the old school guys were way tuffer like you guys think MJ was tuffer than Lebron.
We like the guys we grew up with the best. We rip anyone who comes after and threatens them. Then we accept what is and argue about another one.
But Lebron could have played thug ball if that is what was being played.
Plus he is the whitest motherfucker ever to play the game. And that would piss off the BLM folks to no end.
Game 6 at Boston, Lebron had the best performance I've ever seen. That Spurs series was incredible. And last year is the one that makes passing Jordan possible imho. Michael Jordan was the best player on the best team of all time but only because Lebron beat the 73 win Warriors.
I think all the talk about it needs to simmer until the Finals though. There's a real chance the Warriors sweep and it's going to be hard to make the pro Lebron argument if that happens.
Thank u all
Lose to the Warriors and he's 3 and 5.
Then Magic still has a case
And if you haven't already, read "Foul" The biography of Connie Hawkins...