Official Draft Day Prediction Thread
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Only thing is, the draft seems stacked at CB. The Colorado guys are good, especially Witherspoon. Florida has a few guys. One or more of them will be available in the 2nd.Tequilla said:
It's really neither ... it's what I would do if I was the Hawk GMdnc said:
Can't decide whether this is Doog POTD or Hook POTD, but either way, I *heart* this and hope it happens.Tequilla said:Ross - Round 1, Pick 14, Philly
King - Round 1, Pick 26, Seattle
Budda - Round 1, Pick 31, Seattle (Sherman traded to Atlanta)
Jones - Round 2, Pick #63, Seattle (pick obtained from Sherman trade)
Qualls - Round #3, Pick #94, Steelers
Mathis - Round #6, Pick #211, Dallas
Daniels - Round #7, Pick #239, New England
This team is in transition and IMO this group has seen its window to winning the Super Bowl dramatically narrow ... the division as a whole sucks so there is room to rebuild on the fly ...
The picks kinda build on the other ... I don't think we move Sherman if we don't get King to replace ... if that happens I could see us move Sherman to ensure Budda as he's the LT replacement to Earl who could be gone at any point ... but great slot option. Getting the 2nd from Atlanta allows us to "reach" on Jones a half round earlier than most would.
The other big need for us is on the OL ... but I don't think I would really trust anybody in this draft and think the 2nd or 3rd round guys are just as likely to be as good
It's not as good for OL (at least by what they say) so if they really like Lamp or Bolles, you have to take them in the first.
It's hard to predict. I would be surprised if the first pick by the Seahawks isn't a CB or OL. -
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Could argue that we would get another pick from ATL in that scenario -
I don't think anyone's giving them a mid first rounder for himTequilla said:
It's possible ...dnc said:
I guess it's HPOTD because there's no way Sherman gets a 1st and a 2nd back. If they could get that for him they would have already dealt him IMO.Tequilla said:
It's really neither ... it's what I would do if I was the Hawk GMdnc said:
Can't decide whether this is Doog POTD or Hook POTD, but either way, I *heart* this and hope it happens.Tequilla said:Ross - Round 1, Pick 14, Philly
King - Round 1, Pick 26, Seattle
Budda - Round 1, Pick 31, Seattle (Sherman traded to Atlanta)
Jones - Round 2, Pick #63, Seattle (pick obtained from Sherman trade)
Qualls - Round #3, Pick #94, Steelers
Mathis - Round #6, Pick #211, Dallas
Daniels - Round #7, Pick #239, New England
This team is in transition and IMO this group has seen its window to winning the Super Bowl dramatically narrow ... the division as a whole sucks so there is room to rebuild on the fly ...
The picks kinda build on the other ... I don't think we move Sherman if we don't get King to replace ... if that happens I could see us move Sherman to ensure Budda as he's the LT replacement to Earl who could be gone at any point ... but great slot option. Getting the 2nd from Atlanta allows us to "reach" on Jones a half round earlier than most would.
The other big need for us is on the OL ... but I don't think I would really trust anybody in this draft and think the 2nd or 3rd round guys are just as likely to be as good
I don't have the draft pick number calculator up ... but what is difference between mid 1st and 4th vs late 1st and late 2nd? -
Agreed. The only possible exception to me would be if they went safety with Melifonwu or maaaaaybe Peppers. IMO the pick is going to be King, Bolles, Lamp, Melifonwu or trade down. And if two or three of those guys are still on the bored it could be trade down and hope you still get one of them.RoadDawg55 said:
Only thing is, the draft seems stacked at CB. The Colorado guys are good, especially Witherspoon. Florida has a few guys. One or more of them will be available in the 2nd.Tequilla said:
It's really neither ... it's what I would do if I was the Hawk GMdnc said:
Can't decide whether this is Doog POTD or Hook POTD, but either way, I *heart* this and hope it happens.Tequilla said:Ross - Round 1, Pick 14, Philly
King - Round 1, Pick 26, Seattle
Budda - Round 1, Pick 31, Seattle (Sherman traded to Atlanta)
Jones - Round 2, Pick #63, Seattle (pick obtained from Sherman trade)
Qualls - Round #3, Pick #94, Steelers
Mathis - Round #6, Pick #211, Dallas
Daniels - Round #7, Pick #239, New England
This team is in transition and IMO this group has seen its window to winning the Super Bowl dramatically narrow ... the division as a whole sucks so there is room to rebuild on the fly ...
The picks kinda build on the other ... I don't think we move Sherman if we don't get King to replace ... if that happens I could see us move Sherman to ensure Budda as he's the LT replacement to Earl who could be gone at any point ... but great slot option. Getting the 2nd from Atlanta allows us to "reach" on Jones a half round earlier than most would.
The other big need for us is on the OL ... but I don't think I would really trust anybody in this draft and think the 2nd or 3rd round guys are just as likely to be as good
It's not as good for OL (at least by what they say) so if they really like Lamp or Bolles, you have to take them in the first.
It's hard to predict. I would be surprised if the first pick by the Seahawks isn't a CB or OL. -
That was the Revis deal and a market comp ... I agree with you that they would be taking a haircut to thatdnc said:
I don't think anyone's giving them a mid first rounder for himTequilla said:
It's possible ...dnc said:
I guess it's HPOTD because there's no way Sherman gets a 1st and a 2nd back. If they could get that for him they would have already dealt him IMO.Tequilla said:
It's really neither ... it's what I would do if I was the Hawk GMdnc said:
Can't decide whether this is Doog POTD or Hook POTD, but either way, I *heart* this and hope it happens.Tequilla said:Ross - Round 1, Pick 14, Philly
King - Round 1, Pick 26, Seattle
Budda - Round 1, Pick 31, Seattle (Sherman traded to Atlanta)
Jones - Round 2, Pick #63, Seattle (pick obtained from Sherman trade)
Qualls - Round #3, Pick #94, Steelers
Mathis - Round #6, Pick #211, Dallas
Daniels - Round #7, Pick #239, New England
This team is in transition and IMO this group has seen its window to winning the Super Bowl dramatically narrow ... the division as a whole sucks so there is room to rebuild on the fly ...
The picks kinda build on the other ... I don't think we move Sherman if we don't get King to replace ... if that happens I could see us move Sherman to ensure Budda as he's the LT replacement to Earl who could be gone at any point ... but great slot option. Getting the 2nd from Atlanta allows us to "reach" on Jones a half round earlier than most would.
The other big need for us is on the OL ... but I don't think I would really trust anybody in this draft and think the 2nd or 3rd round guys are just as likely to be as good
I don't have the draft pick number calculator up ... but what is difference between mid 1st and 4th vs late 1st and late 2nd? -
I like Lamp ... not huge on Bolles (inside guy in NFL to me)
The UConn S I think is getting bid up because of size/speed combo ... not sure if he is as physical as his size says.
Also, fair or unfair, I'm not a huge fan of players from loser programs that aren't used to playing with expectations ... UConn sucks -
Revis was the undisputed best corner in the league when he was dealt. And that deal turned out awful for TB.Tequilla said:
That was the Revis deal and a market comp ... I agree with you that they would be taking a haircut to thatdnc said:
I don't think anyone's giving them a mid first rounder for himTequilla said:
It's possible ...dnc said:
I guess it's HPOTD because there's no way Sherman gets a 1st and a 2nd back. If they could get that for him they would have already dealt him IMO.Tequilla said:
It's really neither ... it's what I would do if I was the Hawk GMdnc said:
Can't decide whether this is Doog POTD or Hook POTD, but either way, I *heart* this and hope it happens.Tequilla said:Ross - Round 1, Pick 14, Philly
King - Round 1, Pick 26, Seattle
Budda - Round 1, Pick 31, Seattle (Sherman traded to Atlanta)
Jones - Round 2, Pick #63, Seattle (pick obtained from Sherman trade)
Qualls - Round #3, Pick #94, Steelers
Mathis - Round #6, Pick #211, Dallas
Daniels - Round #7, Pick #239, New England
This team is in transition and IMO this group has seen its window to winning the Super Bowl dramatically narrow ... the division as a whole sucks so there is room to rebuild on the fly ...
The picks kinda build on the other ... I don't think we move Sherman if we don't get King to replace ... if that happens I could see us move Sherman to ensure Budda as he's the LT replacement to Earl who could be gone at any point ... but great slot option. Getting the 2nd from Atlanta allows us to "reach" on Jones a half round earlier than most would.
The other big need for us is on the OL ... but I don't think I would really trust anybody in this draft and think the 2nd or 3rd round guys are just as likely to be as good
I don't have the draft pick number calculator up ... but what is difference between mid 1st and 4th vs late 1st and late 2nd?
Sherman is more an undisputed top 5 corner but not the clear #1. And Seattle has made it clear they want to deal him which doesn't help his trade value. -
Peppers would be a strange pick because the Seahawks already signed Tampa Bay's starting safety from last year.dnc said:
Agreed. The only possible exception to me would be if they went safety with Melifonwu or maaaaaybe Peppers. IMO the pick is going to be King, Bolles, Lamp, Melifonwu or trade down. And if two or three of those guys are still on the bored it could be trade down and hope you still get one of them.RoadDawg55 said:
Only thing is, the draft seems stacked at CB. The Colorado guys are good, especially Witherspoon. Florida has a few guys. One or more of them will be available in the 2nd.Tequilla said:
It's really neither ... it's what I would do if I was the Hawk GMdnc said:
Can't decide whether this is Doog POTD or Hook POTD, but either way, I *heart* this and hope it happens.Tequilla said:Ross - Round 1, Pick 14, Philly
King - Round 1, Pick 26, Seattle
Budda - Round 1, Pick 31, Seattle (Sherman traded to Atlanta)
Jones - Round 2, Pick #63, Seattle (pick obtained from Sherman trade)
Qualls - Round #3, Pick #94, Steelers
Mathis - Round #6, Pick #211, Dallas
Daniels - Round #7, Pick #239, New England
This team is in transition and IMO this group has seen its window to winning the Super Bowl dramatically narrow ... the division as a whole sucks so there is room to rebuild on the fly ...
The picks kinda build on the other ... I don't think we move Sherman if we don't get King to replace ... if that happens I could see us move Sherman to ensure Budda as he's the LT replacement to Earl who could be gone at any point ... but great slot option. Getting the 2nd from Atlanta allows us to "reach" on Jones a half round earlier than most would.
The other big need for us is on the OL ... but I don't think I would really trust anybody in this draft and think the 2nd or 3rd round guys are just as likely to be as good
It's not as good for OL (at least by what they say) so if they really like Lamp or Bolles, you have to take them in the first.
It's hard to predict. I would be surprised if the first pick by the Seahawks isn't a CB or OL. -
I love Bolles. Total stud IMO. My only concern is that he won't have a long career because he'll be 25 before the season starts. I like Utah's guard Asiata or whatever his name is too.Tequilla said:I like Lamp ... not huge on Bolles (inside guy in NFL to me)
The UConn S I think is getting bid up because of size/speed combo ... not sure if he is as physical as his size says.
Also, fair or unfair, I'm not a huge fan of players from loser programs that aren't used to playing with expectations ... UConn sucks
The expectations thing isn't unfair, it's just dumb. You limit yourself to elite programs you eliminate a ton of talent from your pool.
Here's this year's NFL First Team All Pros. Those whose didn't have high expectations in college in bold.Quarterback: Matt Ryan, Atlanta
A baller's a baller.
Running Back: Ezekiel Elliott, Dallas
Flex: David Johnson, Arizona
Tight End: Travis Kelce, Kansas City
Wide Receivers: Antonio Brown, Pittsburgh; Julio Jones, Atlanta
Left Tackle : Tyron Smith, Dallas
Right Tackle: Jack Conklin, Tennessee
Left Guard: Kelechi Osemele, Oakland
Right Guard: Zack Martin, Dallas
Center: Travis Frederick, Dallas
DEFENSE
Edge Rushers: Khalil Mack, Oakland; Vic Beasley Jr., Atlanta
Interior Linemen: Aaron Donald, Los Angeles; Damon Harrison, New York Giants
Linebackers: Von Miller, Denver; Bobby Wagner, Seattle; Sean Lee, Dallas
Cornerbacks: Aqib Talib, Denver; Marcus Peters, Kansas City
Safeties: Landon Collins, New York Giants; Eric Berry, Kansas City
Defensive Back: Chris Harris Jr., Denver -
I agree, I just know the Hawks love versatility and he's a guy who could play a number of positions for them.RoadDawg55 said:
Peppers would be a strange pick because the Seahawks already signed Tampa Bay's starting safety from last year.dnc said:
Agreed. The only possible exception to me would be if they went safety with Melifonwu or maaaaaybe Peppers. IMO the pick is going to be King, Bolles, Lamp, Melifonwu or trade down. And if two or three of those guys are still on the bored it could be trade down and hope you still get one of them.RoadDawg55 said:
Only thing is, the draft seems stacked at CB. The Colorado guys are good, especially Witherspoon. Florida has a few guys. One or more of them will be available in the 2nd.Tequilla said:
It's really neither ... it's what I would do if I was the Hawk GMdnc said:
Can't decide whether this is Doog POTD or Hook POTD, but either way, I *heart* this and hope it happens.Tequilla said:Ross - Round 1, Pick 14, Philly
King - Round 1, Pick 26, Seattle
Budda - Round 1, Pick 31, Seattle (Sherman traded to Atlanta)
Jones - Round 2, Pick #63, Seattle (pick obtained from Sherman trade)
Qualls - Round #3, Pick #94, Steelers
Mathis - Round #6, Pick #211, Dallas
Daniels - Round #7, Pick #239, New England
This team is in transition and IMO this group has seen its window to winning the Super Bowl dramatically narrow ... the division as a whole sucks so there is room to rebuild on the fly ...
The picks kinda build on the other ... I don't think we move Sherman if we don't get King to replace ... if that happens I could see us move Sherman to ensure Budda as he's the LT replacement to Earl who could be gone at any point ... but great slot option. Getting the 2nd from Atlanta allows us to "reach" on Jones a half round earlier than most would.
The other big need for us is on the OL ... but I don't think I would really trust anybody in this draft and think the 2nd or 3rd round guys are just as likely to be as good
It's not as good for OL (at least by what they say) so if they really like Lamp or Bolles, you have to take them in the first.
It's hard to predict. I would be surprised if the first pick by the Seahawks isn't a CB or OL.
Like I said, I don't expect them to draft him. -
Tequilla said:
I like Lamp ... not huge on Bolles (inside guy in NFL to me)
The UConn S I think is getting bid up because of size/speed combo ... not sure if he is as physical as his size says.
Also, fair or unfair, I'm not a huge fan of players from loser programs that aren't used to playing with expectations ... UConn sucks
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Atlanta makes sense in thatvthey are in a win now mode and play a similar system ...dnc said:
Revis was the undisputed best corner in the league when he was dealt. And that deal turned out awful for TB.Tequilla said:
That was the Revis deal and a market comp ... I agree with you that they would be taking a haircut to thatdnc said:
I don't think anyone's giving them a mid first rounder for himTequilla said:
It's possible ...dnc said:
I guess it's HPOTD because there's no way Sherman gets a 1st and a 2nd back. If they could get that for him they would have already dealt him IMO.Tequilla said:
It's really neither ... it's what I would do if I was the Hawk GMdnc said:
Can't decide whether this is Doog POTD or Hook POTD, but either way, I *heart* this and hope it happens.Tequilla said:Ross - Round 1, Pick 14, Philly
King - Round 1, Pick 26, Seattle
Budda - Round 1, Pick 31, Seattle (Sherman traded to Atlanta)
Jones - Round 2, Pick #63, Seattle (pick obtained from Sherman trade)
Qualls - Round #3, Pick #94, Steelers
Mathis - Round #6, Pick #211, Dallas
Daniels - Round #7, Pick #239, New England
This team is in transition and IMO this group has seen its window to winning the Super Bowl dramatically narrow ... the division as a whole sucks so there is room to rebuild on the fly ...
The picks kinda build on the other ... I don't think we move Sherman if we don't get King to replace ... if that happens I could see us move Sherman to ensure Budda as he's the LT replacement to Earl who could be gone at any point ... but great slot option. Getting the 2nd from Atlanta allows us to "reach" on Jones a half round earlier than most would.
The other big need for us is on the OL ... but I don't think I would really trust anybody in this draft and think the 2nd or 3rd round guys are just as likely to be as good
I don't have the draft pick number calculator up ... but what is difference between mid 1st and 4th vs late 1st and late 2nd?
Sherman is more an undisputed top 5 corner but not the clear #1. And Seattle has made it clear they want to deal him which doesn't help his trade value.
Sherman's numbers are fine ... he's still an elite corner ... but a change of scenery for all is needed -
But Atlanta doesn't make sense in that they have a #1 corner already and made it to the SB without him. Alford's fine as a #2 corner and Collins is solid as the 3. I can't see them dealing for Sherman, as much as Quinn might love him.Tequilla said:
Atlanta makes sense in thatvthey are in a win now mode and play a similar system ...dnc said:
Revis was the undisputed best corner in the league when he was dealt. And that deal turned out awful for TB.Tequilla said:
That was the Revis deal and a market comp ... I agree with you that they would be taking a haircut to thatdnc said:
I don't think anyone's giving them a mid first rounder for himTequilla said:
It's possible ...dnc said:
I guess it's HPOTD because there's no way Sherman gets a 1st and a 2nd back. If they could get that for him they would have already dealt him IMO.Tequilla said:
It's really neither ... it's what I would do if I was the Hawk GMdnc said:
Can't decide whether this is Doog POTD or Hook POTD, but either way, I *heart* this and hope it happens.Tequilla said:Ross - Round 1, Pick 14, Philly
King - Round 1, Pick 26, Seattle
Budda - Round 1, Pick 31, Seattle (Sherman traded to Atlanta)
Jones - Round 2, Pick #63, Seattle (pick obtained from Sherman trade)
Qualls - Round #3, Pick #94, Steelers
Mathis - Round #6, Pick #211, Dallas
Daniels - Round #7, Pick #239, New England
This team is in transition and IMO this group has seen its window to winning the Super Bowl dramatically narrow ... the division as a whole sucks so there is room to rebuild on the fly ...
The picks kinda build on the other ... I don't think we move Sherman if we don't get King to replace ... if that happens I could see us move Sherman to ensure Budda as he's the LT replacement to Earl who could be gone at any point ... but great slot option. Getting the 2nd from Atlanta allows us to "reach" on Jones a half round earlier than most would.
The other big need for us is on the OL ... but I don't think I would really trust anybody in this draft and think the 2nd or 3rd round guys are just as likely to be as good
I don't have the draft pick number calculator up ... but what is difference between mid 1st and 4th vs late 1st and late 2nd?
Sherman is more an undisputed top 5 corner but not the clear #1. And Seattle has made it clear they want to deal him which doesn't help his trade value.
Sherman's numbers are fine ... he's still an elite corner ... but a change of scenery for all is needed -
That list is flawed
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Of course it is, it's subjective awards bullshit.Tequilla said:That list is flawed
But they weren't picking with a "take the guy from the small school" bias. Find another list if you want, the results are going to be similar. -
I'm very hesitant on the guys that jump a round plus towards the end of the draft process unless you can logically explain why
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Define the end of the draft process? Melifonwu's stock jumped at the combine. much like Kevin King's. King's has continued rising thanks to two corners ahead of him dropping (Jones and Conley). Melifonwu's has held since the combine. Both of their stock jumped because they demonstrated elite athleticism that shows up on tape but people just didn't realize how elite it was until it was measured.Tequilla said:I'm very hesitant on the guys that jump a round plus towards the end of the draft process unless you can logically explain why
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King played in P12 ... UConn in the American
I'm skeptical of anybody that is great at the underwear Olympics IF I can't also verify with game tape ...
The UConn kid could be really good ... but in the end I'm going to always side with the more battle tested, etc prospect if everything else is basically equal -
Fupdate - all five serious entries (French, Tripper, Roadie, Tequilla and Swaye's bitch) got 1 point for Ross's round. Nobody scored for pick number or team. Everyone had King in the first so no advantage there for anyone.
Unlikely partners Road and Teq both had Budda in the first, so they start day 2 with the disadvantage. -
Gareon Conley, alleged rapist, gets drafted before Kevin King, Budda Baker, and (of course due to injury) Sidney Jones.
I am dying of laughter -
I won.dnc said:Fupdate - all five serious entries (French, Tripper, Roadie, Tequilla and Swaye's bitch) got 1 point for Ross's round. Nobody scored for pick number or team. Everyone had King in the first so no advantage there for anyone.
Unlikely partners Road and Teq both had Budda in the first, so they start day 2 with the disadvantage.
Next. -
dnc said:
For each Dawg you think gets drafted list their Round, Overall Pick, and Team.
Scoring is as follows - one point for correct round, 3 points for correct pick range (within 2 slots, so if you list pick 16 you get the range 14-18), 2 point bonus for exact pick (so 5 points total for a correct pick, 3 for the correct range), 5 points for correct team.
For every player you list who doesn't get drafted you lose one point.
Example:
John Ross, 1, 15, Colts
Kevin King, 1, 26, Seahawks
Etc
Winners will be announced Monday or whenever the fuck I get around to it.
Silly DNC I already told you that KK is going #greenngold. Tune in tonight. -
Could happen. I think they're more likely to take Lamp or trade down again, but King going to GB wouldn't shock me at all.salemcoog said:dnc said:For each Dawg you think gets drafted list their Round, Overall Pick, and Team.
Scoring is as follows - one point for correct round, 3 points for correct pick range (within 2 slots, so if you list pick 16 you get the range 14-18), 2 point bonus for exact pick (so 5 points total for a correct pick, 3 for the correct range), 5 points for correct team.
For every player you list who doesn't get drafted you lose one point.
Example:
John Ross, 1, 15, Colts
Kevin King, 1, 26, Seahawks
Etc
Winners will be announced Monday or whenever the fuck I get around to it.
Silly DNC I already told you that KK is going #greenngold. Tune in tonight. -
My buddy is pissed about this possibility. Just pick Budda. King is too goo of fit for the Hawks.salemcoog said:dnc said:For each Dawg you think gets drafted list their Round, Overall Pick, and Team.
Scoring is as follows - one point for correct round, 3 points for correct pick range (within 2 slots, so if you list pick 16 you get the range 14-18), 2 point bonus for exact pick (so 5 points total for a correct pick, 3 for the correct range), 5 points for correct team.
For every player you list who doesn't get drafted you lose one point.
Example:
John Ross, 1, 15, Colts
Kevin King, 1, 26, Seahawks
Etc
Winners will be announced Monday or whenever the fuck I get around to it.
Silly DNC I already told you that KK is going #greenngold. Tune in tonight.
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Dialed insalemcoog said:dnc said:For each Dawg you think gets drafted list their Round, Overall Pick, and Team.
Scoring is as follows - one point for correct round, 3 points for correct pick range (within 2 slots, so if you list pick 16 you get the range 14-18), 2 point bonus for exact pick (so 5 points total for a correct pick, 3 for the correct range), 5 points for correct team.
For every player you list who doesn't get drafted you lose one point.
Example:
John Ross, 1, 15, Colts
Kevin King, 1, 26, Seahawks
Etc
Winners will be announced Monday or whenever the fuck I get around to it.
Silly DNC I already told you that KK is going #greenngold. Tune in tonight. -
Dialed in as usual.Tequilla said:Ross - Round 1, Pick 14, Philly
King - Round 1, Pick 26, Seattle
Budda - Round 1, Pick 31, Seattle (Sherman traded to Atlanta)
Jones - Round 2, Pick #63, Seattle (pick obtained from Sherman trade)
Qualls - Round #3, Pick #94, Steelers
Mathis - Round #6, Pick #211, Dallas
Daniels - Round #7, Pick #239, New England -
@TierbsHsotBoobs
You don't have the fucking balls to ever make an opinion worth a shit ... so it's easy for you to sit back and cherry pick those that make opinions ...
Go drink a gallon of fucking bleach, take a bath in a tub of gasoline, then step outside and light up a Cuban cigar in a strong wind ... -
Draft projections are dumb.Tequilla said:@TierbsHsotBoobs
You don't have the fucking balls to ever make an opinion worth a shit ... so it's easy for you to sit back and cherry pick those that make opinions ...
Go drink a gallon of fucking bleach, take a bath in a tub of gasoline, then step outside and light up a Cuban cigar in a strong wind ...
I don't even know why some of you idiots play the game. -
My predictions:
Ross - Cincinnati 1-9
King - GB 2-33
Baker - Arizona 2-36
Jones - Philly 2-43 -
@Dawgnewz!! True???CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:My predictions:
Ross - Cincinnati 1-9
King - GB 2-33
Baker - Arizona 2-36
Jones - Philly 2-43
