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The M's scored just over 2 runs a game in their first 6 games. There's no chance, zero, that their offense is anything close that bad. The worst offense in the Al scored over 4 runs a game last year.greenblood said:
Have you watched the Mariners the last 15 years? Yes this offense can and most likely will continue to perform this badly.dhdawg said:they'll go on a late april may run as they always do. and then collapse late in the season cause they don't have enough pitching.
The offense isn't going to continue to perform theirs badly
One year Felix won the cy young with almost a sub 2 era but finished something like 15-12 because the offense was so shitty.
It's fun to bag on the M's, and they will probably suck. But @dhdawg is right, their offense is not going to continue performing anywhere near this badly. -
Is this your first day of Mariners fandom?dnc said:
The M's scored just over 2 runs a game in their first 6 games. There's no chance, zero, that their offense is anything close that bad. The worst offense in the Al scored over 4 runs a game last year.greenblood said:
Have you watched the Mariners the last 15 years? Yes this offense can and most likely will continue to perform this badly.dhdawg said:they'll go on a late april may run as they always do. and then collapse late in the season cause they don't have enough pitching.
The offense isn't going to continue to perform theirs badly
One year Felix won the cy young with almost a sub 2 era but finished something like 15-12 because the offense was so shitty.
It's fun to bag on the M's, and they will probably suck. But @dhdawg is right, their offense is not going to continue performing anywhere near this badly. -
hardy har harTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Is this your first day of Mariners fandom?dnc said:
The M's scored just over 2 runs a game in their first 6 games. There's no chance, zero, that their offense is anything close that bad. The worst offense in the Al scored over 4 runs a game last year.greenblood said:
Have you watched the Mariners the last 15 years? Yes this offense can and most likely will continue to perform this badly.dhdawg said:they'll go on a late april may run as they always do. and then collapse late in the season cause they don't have enough pitching.
The offense isn't going to continue to perform theirs badly
One year Felix won the cy young with almost a sub 2 era but finished something like 15-12 because the offense was so shitty.
It's fun to bag on the M's, and they will probably suck. But @dhdawg is right, their offense is not going to continue performing anywhere near this badly. -
that was amazing. even for the fucking mariners. jesus
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If they didn't shit the bed enough today ... there's the news that tomorrow's first pitch will be thrown out by Willie Bloomquist ...
It's their 40th anniversary season ... THAT'S the best they could come up with?
If there's any lower that this franchise can get, I can't wait to get my popcorn ready and watch it. -
Do they still sell $7 bleacher tickets? I'd pay that to boo them tomorrow. Not a penny more
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I love the Mariners losing. It's the same shit year after year. If the are supposed to be good, they are awful. If they are expected to suck, they do well, just not well enough.
First Z and Wakamatsu were the answer after over achieving their first year. Then disaster. Then McLendon. Next year, he's gone.
Now Dipoto. He likely sucks too (the Segura/Hanniger trade was a good one though). The Angels were a mess by the time he was fired and their farm system was supposedly terrible.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.halosheaven.com/platform/amp/2017/1/19/14321720/mlb-angels-keith-law-farm-prospect-rankings -
Tickets are still available via ticket master in nearly every section of the lower level between 1-3rd base for Opening Fucking Day.
And we thought Jen had ticket selling issues -
Sweepdnc said:
hardy har harTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Is this your first day of Mariners fandom?dnc said:
The M's scored just over 2 runs a game in their first 6 games. There's no chance, zero, that their offense is anything close that bad. The worst offense in the Al scored over 4 runs a game last year.greenblood said:
Have you watched the Mariners the last 15 years? Yes this offense can and most likely will continue to perform this badly.dhdawg said:they'll go on a late april may run as they always do. and then collapse late in the season cause they don't have enough pitching.
The offense isn't going to continue to perform theirs badly
One year Felix won the cy young with almost a sub 2 era but finished something like 15-12 because the offense was so shitty.
It's fun to bag on the M's, and they will probably suck. But @dhdawg is right, their offense is not going to continue performing anywhere near this badly. -
1-161 is still in play
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How many managers have had their careers ruined by coming to seattle? One guy had a stroke and nearly died mid season. Managers are already basically helpless out there.. surely there's go to be a better career choice than putting your life on the line for the worst team in the history of sports. Holy fuck allRoadDawg55 said:I love the Mariners losing. It's the same shit year after year. If the are supposed to be good, they are awful. If they are expected to suck, they do well, just not well enough.
First Z and Wakamatsu were the answer after over achieving their first year. Then disaster. Then McLendon. Next year, he's gone.
Now Dipoto. He likely sucks too (the Segura/Hanniger trade was a good one though). The Angels were a mess by the time he was fired and their farm system was supposedly terrible.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.halosheaven.com/platform/amp/2017/1/19/14321720/mlb-angels-keith-law-farm-prospect-rankings -
2-160 still in playPurpleJ said:1-161 is still in play
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At some point in the season, you have to start looking toward the draft
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Death, Taxes
Losers lose.
Water is wet.
Baabs flags unless there's pics. -
So do they play 162 games against the astros?
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Our Angels swept the Mariners last weekendRaceBannon said:So do they play 162 games against the astros?
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Needs more C5 in a much bigger area.WilburHooksHands said:Its almost like we saw this coming.
Say like about 81 sq miles more. -
I hope Trump sends them all to die in WW3.doogie said:At some point in the season, you have to start looking toward the draft
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Two in a row! World Series baby!
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Make that 4 in a row.
World series here we come.
This is playing out exactly as I said. They will probably be 5 to 10 games above 500 by mid may and fizzle out in august -
Well I'll admit I'm a die-hard M and I'm officially horny for Haniger.. Motter will be there soon
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Motter's going to fall apart at some poont. I'm with you on Hay n***** though.rustysavage said:Well I'll admit I'm a die-hard M and I'm officially horny for Haniger.. Motter will be there soon
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I'll give DiPoto credit for the Segura-Haniger trade. He absolutely fleeced the Diamondbacks.
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90-72 just requires being 18 games over .500 ... over a 6 month season that's basically 15-12 every month ...
Get to the end of April at or around .500 and you're generally on schedule ...
Next milestone is to get to Memorial Day at or around 3-5 games over .500 ...
Then get to the 4th of July at 8-10 games over .500 ...
Then have a strong August/September and in particular dominate the teams that are out of the race ...
The schedule for the Mariners will be interesting this year as the travel is definitely different with periods where they are hardly at home (not home the rest of April) and some periods where they are almost always at home.
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The season depends on the starting rotation. I'm buying Paxton. He just needs to stay healthy. I think Felix is about done. If he can even pitch to last year's level for a full season, it's a win.
If they can get to July in contention, a deal has to be made for a starter. They won't survive as is, especially considering the bullpen is mostly subpar. -
I think it's a bit premature to say that Felix is done and it is early in the year ... but there is reason for concern ...RoadDawg55 said:The season depends on the starting rotation. I'm buying Paxton. He just needs to stay healthy. I think Felix is about done. If he can even pitch to last year's level for a full season, it's a win.
If they can get to July in contention, a deal has to be made for a starter. They won't survive as is, especially considering the bullpen is mostly subpar.
So far this year his batting average against is .330 ... even last year his batting average against was .239 (that's inline with his career average of .240) ... his issue last year was his BB rate of almost 4 BBs per 9 innings. You could look at a higher HR rate against last year and so far this year 5 in 24.2 IP as an issue. But then again, he's at a 20:1 K:BB rate this year ... so the control is better and he's still getting K's at a decent clip (although slightly lower than his career average).
He's probably more properly slotted as a #2 starter at this point in his career ... but still capable of delivering a #1 performance. I think he's in the process of trying to reinvent himself ... he's too good to not eventually transition into the next phase of his career. Right now he's getting too much of the plate and throwing too many strikes. I'm sure he'll continue to make an adjustment(s).
As for Paxton, I agree that he's a buy in his performance. The first thing I look for in a pitcher is how easy their throwing motion is ... for Paxton he's throwing an easy 97 right now getting great action on his pitches as the ball is exploding on hitters without their ability to get any kind of comfortable swings on him. As much as everybody looks at speed and hard throwers to get outs ... at the core pitching is about making the batter uncomfortable and the inability to make confident swings/contact on the ball.
The flaw from DiPoto IMO was his inability to build out a strong bullpen ... a necessity in today's game. I don't have a ton of confidence in Kuma and Gallardo is a JAG at this point in his career. They desperately need Smyly to come back healthy as he's going to be desperately missed.
