Trump on Syria

2001400ex

What a cool day that we can again blame the previous administration.

Today:

“Today’s chemical attack in Syria against innocent people, including women and children, is reprehensible and cannot be ignored by the civilized world,” Trump said in a statement.

At least 35 people were killed in the attack in Khan Sheikhoun, Syria, one of the worst in the country’s six-year-long Civil War. The Syrian government has denied responsibility, but the United States is blaming Assad, and arguing that the Obama Administration enabled him.

“These heinous actions by the Bashar Assad regime are a consequence of the past administration’s weakness and irresolution,” Trump said.

Back in 2013:

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/375609403376144384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.yimg.com%2Fos%2Fyc%2Fhtml%2Fembed-iframe-min.d8c8a26f.html

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/376334423069032448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.yimg.com%2Fos%2Fyc%2Fhtml%2Fembed-iframe-min.d8c8a26f.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/president-trump-blames-barack-obama-222457715.html

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TommySQC

Trump is going to divide up Syria and let Russia keep their naval base. Then he and Putin are going to go Rambo/Red Dawn/Three Kings and wipe ISIS clean. Then they may agree on a joint-venture in overthrowing Saudi Arabia in return.

He's got a fucking oil guy as his Secretary of State. It's all about the oil. Kicking it back to when the British and the Dutch controlled the petrol. Russia gets half, the US gets half.

He's also going to also cut a trade deal with China and they'll take care of the Korean problem.

Then Russia and the US will fuck China on the price of oil.

Deal makers make deals.

I'm okay with this

HoustonHusky

Not sure there is a good option. It doesn't make sense that Assad would use sarin gas after he had a path to stay in power...on the surface it makes a lot more sense that they bombed a place that had it or the AQ type rebels did it to blame him.

That said, Trump either had to come out and say Assad didn't do it (which would be a mess in the current political climate) or respond. Otherwise he looks weak to all the other 3rd world dictators. I hope this is a bomb the base, say stop, and move on...the place is a mess and there are no good options.

And it's not about oil...it's about natural gas. Several ME countries want to put a gas line through to get to Europe and Russia wants to block that to limit competition. We shouldn't give an F.

Probably the best option is to convince Russia to agree to push Assad out with the stipulation that they can put somebody else in that agrees to block the pipeline.

2001400ex

Let's just overthrow the government and occupy the country for 15 years. What could go wrong there?

Dude61

For those swallowing the CNNNBCMSNBC propaganda let's review:

In 2013 and 2014 the US tried to frame Assad with using chemical weapons and both times proven to be hoaxes.

Assad surrendered all his chemical weapons in 2014, confirmed by the UN and Ketchup Boy Kerry.

Assad is on the verge of winning the war as well as support from Trump. He would not risk starting an all out war with the neocons by using chemical weapons on the enemy, much less his own people. There is no benefit.

BTW, investigative reporter Seymor Hirsch published a report in 2014 explaining how Hillary Clinton had taken the sarin gas weapons from Libya after the invasion and sold them the the "moderate rebels" in Syria.

In the end, if Trump wants to allow the military to unload old Tomahawk inventory on an airstrip to keep the neocons happy, I am ok with that.

PurpleThrobber

Not sure there is a good option. It doesn't make sense that Assad would use sarin gas after he had a path to stay in power...on the surface it makes a lot more sense that they bombed a place that had it or the AQ type rebels did it to blame him.

That said, Trump either had to come out and say Assad didn't do it (which would be a mess in the current political climate) or respond. Otherwise he looks weak to all the other 3rd world dictators. I hope this is a bomb the base, say stop, and move on...the place is a mess and there are no good options.

And it's not about oil...it's about natural gas. Several ME countries want to put a gas line through to get to Europe and Russia wants to block that to limit competition. We shouldn't give an F.

Probably the best option is to convince Russia to agree to push Assad out with the stipulation that they can put somebody else in that agrees to block the pipeline.

Agree on 'energy' in general as the theme behind the whole who gives a fuck about the ME.

Oil is the easy label - but Russia supplies many gazillion mcfs of natural gas to Europe, fo' sho. Can we just agree to speak in terms of BOE's to include both black gold and natural gas?

AZDuck

For those swallowing the CNNNBCMSNBC propaganda let's review:

In 2013 and 2014 the US tried to frame Assad with using chemical weapons and both times proven to be hoaxes.

Assad surrendered all his chemical weapons in 2014, confirmed by the UN and Ketchup Boy Kerry.

Assad is on the verge of winning the war as well as support from Trump. He would not risk starting an all out war with the neocons by using chemical weapons on the enemy, much less his own people. There is no benefit.

BTW, investigative reporter Seymor Hirsch published a report in 2014 explaining how Hillary Clinton had taken the sarin gas weapons from Libya after the invasion and sold them the the "moderate rebels" in Syria.

In the end, if Trump wants to allow the military to unload old Tomahawk inventory on an airstrip to keep the neocons happy, I am ok with that.

Holy shit. Now I've seen everything. @HockeyPuck61 just cites Seymour Hersh.

We are through the looking-glass, fer shurr

dhdawg

http://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/850177085268049920

trump needs to stop listening to the GOP establishment and start listening to his base. they got him elected.

AZDuck

http://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/850177085268049920

trump needs to stop listening to the GOP establishment and start listening to his base. they got him elected.

Fuck that. GOP MO has been "play to the rubes and get richer" for quite some time now.

dhdawg

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/850162697354326016

el oh el

UWhuskytskeet

What I'm hearing:

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/373581528405905408

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/375609403376144384

BennyBeaver

For those swallowing the CNNNBCMSNBC propaganda let's review:

In 2013 and 2014 the US tried to frame Assad with using chemical weapons and both times proven to be hoaxes.

Assad surrendered all his chemical weapons in 2014, confirmed by the UN and Ketchup Boy Kerry.

Assad is on the verge of winning the war as well as support from Trump. He would not risk starting an all out war with the neocons by using chemical weapons on the enemy, much less his own people. There is no benefit.

BTW, investigative reporter Seymor Hirsch published a report in 2014 explaining how Hillary Clinton had taken the sarin gas weapons from Libya after the invasion and sold them the the "moderate rebels" in Syria.

In the end, if Trump wants to allow the military to unload old Tomahawk inventory on an airstrip to keep the neocons happy, I am ok with that.

Big if true.

Dude61

ISIS, Al-Qaeda Praise Trump's Attack

by Tyler Durden

Apr 7, 2017 12:05 AM

Having perhaps lost the support of much of his anti-war base, President Trump appears to have won praise from two new groups...

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GrundleStiltzkin

http://twitter.com/JonahNRO/status/850350644464689152

If it is a one-off, this strike is the very definition of a symbolic pinprick. It was launched with highly precise weapons against the airfield from which the Syrian chemical attack emanated. According to reports, we apprised Russian personnel at the base beforehand, meaning the Syrians effectively had advance warning as well.

AZDuck

http://twitter.com/JonahNRO/status/850350644464689152

If it is a one-off, this strike is the very definition of a symbolic pinprick. It was launched with highly precise weapons against the airfield from which the Syrian chemical attack emanated. According to reports, we apprised Russian personnel at the base beforehand, meaning the Syrians effectively had advance warning as well.

Cruise missile kabuki

GrundleStiltzkin

http://twitter.com/JonahNRO/status/850350644464689152

If it is a one-off, this strike is the very definition of a symbolic pinprick. It was launched with highly precise weapons against the airfield from which the Syrian chemical attack emanated. According to reports, we apprised Russian personnel at the base beforehand, meaning the Syrians effectively had advance warning as well.
Cruise missile kabuki

Waiting for JDAM bukakke.

RedRocket

From the aftermath videos that I've seen not much damage was done unless it was radar or some other operational targets that were taken out. Russia was warned of the attack but they also just suspended the anti-conflict agreement so I guess they aren't happy about it.

Maybe Trump really did do a 180 on Syria and this bombing is a legitimate response. Maybe this is a dog and pony show to drum up artificial conflict with Russia. Maybe ill change my handle to @Dude62.

Doogles

What I'm hearing:

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/373581528405905408

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/375609403376144384

Things change. If you can't handle the ups and downs of international politics then maybe you should get a new hobby.

Sledog

Let's just overthrow the government and occupy the country for 15 years. What could go wrong there?

Your boy already decapitated the government.

Sledog

Trump on Syria- "Boom"

WilburHooksHands

Trump on Syria- "Boom"

He's a TUFF dude. The TUFFEST dude.