Trump is going to divide up Syria and let Russia keep their naval base. Then he and Putin are going to go Rambo/Red Dawn/Three Kings and wipe ISIS clean. Then they may agree on a joint-venture in overthrowing Saudi Arabia in return.
He's got a fucking oil guy as his Secretary of State. It's all about the oil. Kicking it back to when the British and the Dutch controlled the petrol. Russia gets half, the US gets half.
He's also going to also cut a trade deal with China and they'll take care of the Korean problem.
Then Russia and the US will fuck China on the price of oil.
Not sure there is a good option. It doesn't make sense that Assad would use sarin gas after he had a path to stay in power...on the surface it makes a lot more sense that they bombed a place that had it or the AQ type rebels did it to blame him.
That said, Trump either had to come out and say Assad didn't do it (which would be a mess in the current political climate) or respond. Otherwise he looks weak to all the other 3rd world dictators. I hope this is a bomb the base, say stop, and move on...the place is a mess and there are no good options.
And it's not about oil...it's about natural gas. Several ME countries want to put a gas line through to get to Europe and Russia wants to block that to limit competition. We shouldn't give an F.
Probably the best option is to convince Russia to agree to push Assad out with the stipulation that they can put somebody else in that agrees to block the pipeline.
For those swallowing the CNNNBCMSNBC propaganda let's review:
In 2013 and 2014 the US tried to frame Assad with using chemical weapons and both times proven to be hoaxes.
Assad surrendered all his chemical weapons in 2014, confirmed by the UN and Ketchup Boy Kerry.
Assad is on the verge of winning the war as well as support from Trump. He would not risk starting an all out war with the neocons by using chemical weapons on the enemy, much less his own people. There is no benefit.
BTW, investigative reporter Seymor Hirsch published a report in 2014 explaining how Hillary Clinton had taken the sarin gas weapons from Libya after the invasion and sold them the the "moderate rebels" in Syria.
In the end, if Trump wants to allow the military to unload old Tomahawk inventory on an airstrip to keep the neocons happy, I am ok with that.
Not sure there is a good option. It doesn't make sense that Assad would use sarin gas after he had a path to stay in power...on the surface it makes a lot more sense that they bombed a place that had it or the AQ type rebels did it to blame him.
That said, Trump either had to come out and say Assad didn't do it (which would be a mess in the current political climate) or respond. Otherwise he looks weak to all the other 3rd world dictators. I hope this is a bomb the base, say stop, and move on...the place is a mess and there are no good options.
And it's not about oil...it's about natural gas. Several ME countries want to put a gas line through to get to Europe and Russia wants to block that to limit competition. We shouldn't give an F.
Probably the best option is to convince Russia to agree to push Assad out with the stipulation that they can put somebody else in that agrees to block the pipeline.
Agree on 'energy' in general as the theme behind the whole who gives a fuck about the ME.
Oil is the easy label - but Russia supplies many gazillion mcfs of natural gas to Europe, fo' sho. Can we just agree to speak in terms of BOE's to include both black gold and natural gas?
For those swallowing the CNNNBCMSNBC propaganda let's review:
In 2013 and 2014 the US tried to frame Assad with using chemical weapons and both times proven to be hoaxes.
Assad surrendered all his chemical weapons in 2014, confirmed by the UN and Ketchup Boy Kerry.
Assad is on the verge of winning the war as well as support from Trump. He would not risk starting an all out war with the neocons by using chemical weapons on the enemy, much less his own people. There is no benefit.
BTW, investigative reporter Seymor Hirsch published a report in 2014 explaining how Hillary Clinton had taken the sarin gas weapons from Libya after the invasion and sold them the the "moderate rebels" in Syria.
In the end, if Trump wants to allow the military to unload old Tomahawk inventory on an airstrip to keep the neocons happy, I am ok with that.
For those swallowing the CNNNBCMSNBC propaganda let's review:
In 2013 and 2014 the US tried to frame Assad with using chemical weapons and both times proven to be hoaxes.
Assad surrendered all his chemical weapons in 2014, confirmed by the UN and Ketchup Boy Kerry.
Assad is on the verge of winning the war as well as support from Trump. He would not risk starting an all out war with the neocons by using chemical weapons on the enemy, much less his own people. There is no benefit.
BTW, investigative reporter Seymor Hirsch published a report in 2014 explaining how Hillary Clinton had taken the sarin gas weapons from Libya after the invasion and sold them the the "moderate rebels" in Syria.
In the end, if Trump wants to allow the military to unload old Tomahawk inventory on an airstrip to keep the neocons happy, I am ok with that.
Holy shit. Now I've seen everything. @HockeyPuck61 just cites Seymour Hersh.
For those swallowing the CNNNBCMSNBC propaganda let's review:
In 2013 and 2014 the US tried to frame Assad with using chemical weapons and both times proven to be hoaxes.
Assad surrendered all his chemical weapons in 2014, confirmed by the UN and Ketchup Boy Kerry.
Assad is on the verge of winning the war as well as support from Trump. He would not risk starting an all out war with the neocons by using chemical weapons on the enemy, much less his own people. There is no benefit.
BTW, investigative reporter Seymor Hirsch published a report in 2014 explaining how Hillary Clinton had taken the sarin gas weapons from Libya after the invasion and sold them the the "moderate rebels" in Syria.
In the end, if Trump wants to allow the military to unload old Tomahawk inventory on an airstrip to keep the neocons happy, I am ok with that.
If it is a one-off, this strike is the very definition of a symbolic pinprick. It was launched with highly precise weapons against the airfield from which the Syrian chemical attack emanated. According to reports, we apprised Russian personnel at the base beforehand, meaning the Syrians effectively had advance warning as well.
If it is a one-off, this strike is the very definition of a symbolic pinprick. It was launched with highly precise weapons against the airfield from which the Syrian chemical attack emanated. According to reports, we apprised Russian personnel at the base beforehand, meaning the Syrians effectively had advance warning as well.
If it is a one-off, this strike is the very definition of a symbolic pinprick. It was launched with highly precise weapons against the airfield from which the Syrian chemical attack emanated. According to reports, we apprised Russian personnel at the base beforehand, meaning the Syrians effectively had advance warning as well.
From the aftermath videos that I've seen not much damage was done unless it was radar or some other operational targets that were taken out. Russia was warned of the attack but they also just suspended the anti-conflict agreement so I guess they aren't happy about it.
Maybe Trump really did do a 180 on Syria and this bombing is a legitimate response. Maybe this is a dog and pony show to drum up artificial conflict with Russia. Maybe ill change my handle to @Dude62.
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That said, Trump either had to come out and say Assad didn't do it (which would be a mess in the current political climate) or respond. Otherwise he looks weak to all the other 3rd world dictators. I hope this is a bomb the base, say stop, and move on...the place is a mess and there are no good options.
And it's not about oil...it's about natural gas. Several ME countries want to put a gas line through to get to Europe and Russia wants to block that to limit competition. We shouldn't give an F.
Probably the best option is to convince Russia to agree to push Assad out with the stipulation that they can put somebody else in that agrees to block the pipeline.
In 2013 and 2014 the US tried to frame Assad with using chemical weapons and both times proven to be hoaxes.
Assad surrendered all his chemical weapons in 2014, confirmed by the UN and Ketchup Boy Kerry.
Assad is on the verge of winning the war as well as support from Trump. He would not risk starting an all out war with the neocons by using chemical weapons on the enemy, much less his own people. There is no benefit.
BTW, investigative reporter Seymor Hirsch published a report in 2014 explaining how Hillary Clinton had taken the sarin gas weapons from Libya after the invasion and sold them the the "moderate rebels" in Syria.
In the end, if Trump wants to allow the military to unload old Tomahawk inventory on an airstrip to keep the neocons happy, I am ok with that.
Oil is the easy label - but Russia supplies many gazillion mcfs of natural gas to Europe, fo' sho. Can we just agree to speak in terms of BOE's to include both black gold and natural gas?
We are through the looking-glass, fer shurr
trump needs to stop listening to the GOP establishment and start listening to his base. they got him elected.
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Maybe Trump really did do a 180 on Syria and this bombing is a legitimate response. Maybe this is a dog and pony show to drum up artificial conflict with Russia. Maybe ill change my handle to @Dude62.