Interesting. Offered a Georgia Kid
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Just looking at the bolder players ...Dennis_DeYoung said:
If you go back and re-do our recruiting such that we hit on 10 4+ stars every year (which we did in '17; guys we had a real shot at), we would've been a totally different team this year.Tequilla said:Also, let's walk back this narrative that we were a good little team last year that got blown out by the 2 good teams that we played.
Before we get anywhere in this, go back and watch Browning before/after his shoulder injury ... the difference is night and day. Browning didn't lose those games for us ... it was the lack of production from the OL and notably the interior of the OL.
Going back to USC, we had 2 major issues in that game that probably don't get enough play. First, Jake Eldrenkamp had missed a handful of games before the SC game and that was his first game back ... my guess is that he was not 100% healthy going into the game and definitely had some rust to him ... it wasn't one of his finest games. When you add that to the already established weaknesses we had on the line with Center and Nick Harris getting rag dolled and that's not a recipe for success for a running game that can't get out of the backfield due to the penetration or giving time to a QB that needs it to throw open WRs with a bum arm. The other issue is that immediately after Victor broke his leg USC really started to expose the middle of the field in the pass game with their TE throughout the 2nd quarter ... it turned the balance of the game.
As for Alabama, again, it was largely OL driven for us combined with not having options in the passing game that possessed enough rare physical abilities. We've addressed the passing game option. Defensively, we showed that we were more than capable of playing on that level.
2012 (we had 4 4+stars):
Josh Garnett
Zach Banner
Keiverae Russell
Jordan Payton
Michael Rector
2013 (we had 8):
Daeshon Hall
Evan Voeller
2014 (we had 4):
Joe Mixon
Dalton Schultz
Jacob Tuioti-Mariner
Ainuu Taua
2015 (we had 8):
Tristen Hoge
JoJo Wicker
2016 (we had 8):
N'Keal Harry
Jacob Eason
All of those kids are guys from the west coast who we had ties to and lost out on for whatever reason. Just having those dudes would've completely changed the season.
That covers the shortfall in the OL by solidifying the interior ... solidifies our miss on the outside with Hall by providing a significant upgrade over PSALM ... and provides a big WR that we didn't particularly have on the roster last year that could have provided a significant receiving option to Browning against the high quality athletes from USC and Alabama.
The gap isn't that significant. -
Not sure it matters ...tenndawg said:DDY you cuss beautifully, you hurl insults like the town drunk berating cops - but it doesn't change the fact UW hasn't been particularly effective with their current formula...
Blame Ty, blame Sark, blame Bubushka, whatever...
I'm sure you have researched it enough to know the state of Washington is #22 in average number of Division I recruits produced per year - even Maryland, Indiana and Arizona produce more annual recruits
History shows what history shows - UW would benefit from broadening the recruiting base
No combination of passionately hurled chastisements and infantile name calling will change that - though it is entertaining
And yes, I know the 1/2 natty was 1991...but correcting a typo wasn't that high a priority
By and large we have a fence around this state and don't share very many of our top end recruits with other states (OL excluded) ...
You've offered ZERO evidence to suggest that getting 6-8 kids per class out of Washington and California each isn't a sustainable strategy ...
IF it is a sustainable strategy ... then you are cherry picking the rest of the class from around the country ... very doable.
Where this program gets in trouble is when it needs to recruit 25 in a class. -
The one counter-point I'll make to Teq's geographic recruiting distribution is that the 2018 in-state class is really weak in terms of the type of talent UW is trying to get. Sirmon, Culp, Gordon, and Harrison are the only offers out. Maybe MJ Ale gets an offer and maybe one more random kid blows up his senior year ala Joe Tryon.
But low odds we get all of those guys... Gordon is looking around, Harrison got a crystal ball to Michigan from a national guy at 247 today, Ale already has 5 PAC12 offers and we don't seem super serious about him yet... just a lot of uncertainty.
So it kinda makes sense that in this cycle, we're looking more heavily in California, Utah, and out East with offers like this GA kid, Jack Sirmon, and a few Florida guys. -
I still think we? end up offering Wilson at some point, but it might be late. But yeah, ugly year in Washington.NEsnake12 said:The one counter-point I'll make to Teq's geographic recruiting distribution is that the 2018 in-state class is really weak in terms of the type of talent UW is trying to get. Sirmon, Culp, Gordon, and Harrison are the only offers out. Maybe MJ Ale gets an offer and maybe one more random kid blows up his senior year ala Joe Tryon.
But low odds we get all of those guys... Gordon is looking around, Harrison got a crystal ball to Michigan from a national guy at 247 today, Ale already has 5 PAC12 offers and we don't seem super serious about him yet... just a lot of uncertainty.
So it kinda makes sense that in this cycle, we're looking more heavily in California, Utah, and out East with offers like this GA kid, Jack Sirmon, and a few Florida guys. -
There's going to be years where from an in-state perspective things are great and some years where it is not great ...
There will always be small tweaks to the numbers ...
But the point being that if your foundation is that you're looking at the start of your class at 75% of your recruits being in-state and California kids ... that's a good foundation.
When you start the process, you go through and look to see how attainable those numbers are. When you see that the numbers are off whether it be geographically or from a position standpoint you start making contingency plans and adjusting accordingly.
No plan worth a shit is black and white and never deviated from ... variables change all the time. But that doesn't mean it's not a bad idea to not have a foundation in place to start with. -
Look I want to see the Dubs win it all and hope you guys are right -
and I hope DDY stays frenzied and unmedicated, hope there's no cure and his explicative included comments continue
In a proper context, I stand by my original assertion - I like the move of trying to pull someone out of Georgia, it's low risk potentially huge reward, especially if they get a few kids a year to head west
UW is doing a great job of getting in state talent, can't look for improvement there
And yes Cali is a top 3 high school talent state, and UW does well there too
Not sure there is much more to be pulled out of those two states, UW may be maximized there, and one other fertile recruiting ground would be ideal
Yeah, I know, I'm a goat sucking drippy cunted ignoramous who wishes he was locked in a giraffe cage getting fucked by hyenas blah blah blah -
This alone earned you a chincredible vote.tenndawg said:Look I want to see the Dubs win it all and hope you guys are right -
and I hope DDY stays frenzied and unmedicated, hope there's no cure and his explicative included comments continue
In a proper context, I stand by my original assertion - I like the move of trying to pull someone out of Georgia, it's low risk potentially huge reward, especially if they get a few kids a year to head west
UW is doing a great job of getting in state talent, can't look for improvement there
And yes Cali is a top 3 high school talent state, and UW does well there too
Not sure there is much more to be pulled out of those two states, UW may be maximized there, and one other fertile recruiting ground would be ideal
Yeah, I know, I'm a goat sucking drippy cunted ignoramous who wishes he was locked in a giraffe cage getting fucked by hyenas blah blah blah -
...go on. For a fren.tenndawg said:Look I want to see the Dubs win it all and hope you guys are right -
and I hope DDY stays frenzied and unmedicated, hope there's no cure and his explicative included comments continue
In a proper context, I stand by my original assertion - I like the move of trying to pull someone out of Georgia, it's low risk potentially huge reward, especially if they get a few kids a year to head west
UW is doing a great job of getting in state talent, can't look for improvement there
And yes Cali is a top 3 high school talent state, and UW does well there too
Not sure there is much more to be pulled out of those two states, UW may be maximized there, and one other fertile recruiting ground would be ideal
Yeah, I know, I'm a goat sucking drippy cunted ignoramous who wishes he was locked in a giraffe cage getting fucked by hyenas blah blah blah -
I think the staff has been trying to get a bigger presence in Ut and Az. I like adding those two states because there is some talent there and the State schools aren't USC and UCLA.
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You forgot about all the FREE PUB we got on that one.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:This kid will never come here. Offer doesn't make any sense. Same as offering Reuben Foster.
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I believe even the nurse he yelled at knew we had a hat on the table.Swaye said:
You forgot about all the FREE PUB we got on that one.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:This kid will never come here. Offer doesn't make any sense. Same as offering Reuben Foster.
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Let's be honest, the kid probably has no fucking clue that Dawgs means UW and he probably thinks he's being recruited to Georgia.
It might just work. -
This is a sound strategy.Mad_Son said:Let's be honest, the kid probably has no fucking clue that Dawgs means UW and he probably thinks he's being recruited to Georgia.
It might just work. -
It will work until he visits and sees asians and dikes instead of southern belles.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
This is a sound strategy.Mad_Son said:Let's be honest, the kid probably has no fucking clue that Dawgs means UW and he probably thinks he's being recruited to Georgia.
It might just work. -
WOOOO gotta love that SEC size and speed, they don't grow em like that up here!whuggy said:Some kind of connection or a bit
of change in philosophy? Can't
remember ever offering a Georgia
kid before. Maybe a play on our
excellent DB Combine results. -
Can you cut out the blatant and disgusting racism?Ice_Holmvik said:
It will work until he visits and sees asians and dikes instead of southern belles.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
This is a sound strategy.Mad_Son said:Let's be honest, the kid probably has no fucking clue that Dawgs means UW and he probably thinks he's being recruited to Georgia.
It might just work.
