Interesting. Offered a Georgia Kid
of change in philosophy? Can't
remember ever offering a Georgia
kid before. Maybe a play on our
excellent DB Combine results.
Comments
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Maybe we're retaliating for Skinny Easonwhuggy said:Some kind of connection or a bit
of change in philosophy? Can't
remember ever offering a Georgia
kid before. Maybe a play on our
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Hopefully this will leave us all like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRgWBN8yt_E
Could get him and hate him, in which case we'll feel like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnepPZChA5U
But most likely he won't come here and we'll be like whuggy, axing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhYn7ryaWNE -
Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter? -
Not sure about "designated" but I'm sure many schools will give him a lot of recruiting responsibilities.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter? -
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter? -
Fuck man...... UW could use a Georgia peach every 5 years.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter? -
Name the last commit we had from GA.HUSKYFANATIC said:
Fuck man...... UW could use a Georgia peach every 5 years.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter? -
He's a DB. If it was any other position I'd agree. But I think Jimmy Lake has earned the right to swing for the fences on random kids like this.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter? -
Jimmy Lake is going to have a hard time this year. The only thing that could be profitable about doing this is that maybe kids outside the area don't realize he tried to leave at the end of last year and couldn't pull the trigger.NEsnake12 said:
He's a DB. If it was any other position I'd agree. But I think Jimmy Lake has earned the right to swing for the fences on random kids like this.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter?
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Position coaches move around frequently. I think you guys are overstating this concern a little bit. Lake will just tell them he wasn't ever interested in leaving he just had to play it out to get a raise.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Jimmy Lake is going to have a hard time this year. The only thing that could be profitable about doing this is that maybe kids outside the area don't realize he tried to leave at the end of last year and couldn't pull the trigger.NEsnake12 said:
He's a DB. If it was any other position I'd agree. But I think Jimmy Lake has earned the right to swing for the fences on random kids like this.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter?
That's going to be tough for him to overcome, I think.
It's a concern for kids like Gordon who were probably aware of it as it was happening. For kids who come around later on I'm not worried about it.
Lake gets the benefit of the doubt for me. -
This kid will never come here. Offer doesn't make any sense. Same as offering Reuben Foster.
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DISAGREE. I'm hearing he's a lifelong DAWGS fan so we had to offer. WOOF!!CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:This kid will never come here. Offer doesn't make any sense. Same as offering Reuben Foster.
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Tennessee doesn't produce nearly enough in state high school talent and used to have pipelines to Ohio, Michigan and California.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter?
PAC 12 is a cool conference, if they can get one kid from SEC country out there maybe others will follow...
I see it as extremely low risk, potentially high reward - certainly worth trying... -
The greatest dual-threat emergency QB in the history of the progrum, duh!Dennis_DeYoung said:
Name the last commit we had from GA.HUSKYFANATIC said:
Fuck man...... UW could use a Georgia peach every 5 years.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter? -
Felix Sweetman went to Lakes.backthepack said:
The greatest emergency QB in the history of the progrum, duh!Dennis_DeYoung said:
Name the last commit we had from GA.HUSKYFANATIC said:
Fuck man...... UW could use a Georgia peach every 5 years.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter?
hth -
I crisped it for myself.dnc said:
Felix Sweetman went to Lakes.backthepack said:
The greatest emergency QB in the history of the progrum, duh!Dennis_DeYoung said:
Name the last commit we had from GA.HUSKYFANATIC said:
Fuck man...... UW could use a Georgia peach every 5 years.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter?
hth -
Marvin Hall went to Dorsey you fuckhead.backthepack said:
The greatest dual-threat emergency QB in the history of the progrum, duh!Dennis_DeYoung said:
Name the last commit we had from GA.HUSKYFANATIC said:
Fuck man...... UW could use a Georgia peach every 5 years.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter? -
Antravius Sims bitch.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Marvin Hall went to Dorsey you fuckhead.backthepack said:
The greatest dual-threat emergency QB in the history of the progrum, duh!Dennis_DeYoung said:
Name the last commit we had from GA.HUSKYFANATIC said:
Fuck man...... UW could use a Georgia peach every 5 years.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter? -
Why is this so hard for people to understand ...
In a general class, we're going to recruit give or take 18 kids ...
In most years, our class will look like this from a geographical standpoint:
6-8 kids from the State of Washington ...
6-8 kids from the State of California (probably 2/3 NorCal and 1/3 SoCal) ...
Add those up and you're looking at 12-16 kids out of the 18 total that are going to be covered just by recruiting our general recruiting base ...
From there can we steal a kid or two out of Oregon, Arizona, Utah, or Colorado? What about Hawaii? Is there a high end recruit from Idaho? Does the feelers that we put out in Texas provide beneficial?
Now, where I disagree slightly with @Dennis_DeYoung and @CokeGreaterThanPepsi is that I don't have a problem IF we spend time going after kids in places like Georgia, Florida, etc. PROVIDED that the interest is as mutual between the kid and our staff. Going national WILL NEVER be a strategy for us and more importantly IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE.
We should never count on recruiting from those places as locks ... but we also shouldn't be blind enough to turn away from recruiting a DDY 3 if interested just so that we can lock in a generic DDY 2 that we will be able to talk to throughout the process and IF it becomes obvious that we'll miss on the DDY 3 that we move on to the DDY 2 and get that locked up.
IF there was a big miss in last year's recruiting cycle it was that we didn't move on to our Plan B guys early enough and it almost cost us dearly.
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Let's be brutally honestTequilla said:
Going national WILL NEVER be a strategy for us and more importantly IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE
1/2 a natty in 1990
This past year The Dubs played two good teams, and well...
Washington can sustain staying in the Top 10 for awhile with great coaching and players mostly from Wash and Cali - but there is no reason to believe they will win a natty with the current formula...
If the goal is to be competitive and exciting, then no, they don't need to go national
But if the goal is a natty, they may need to lure a few 4 and 5 stars from Ohio, Michigan, Texas and / or SEC country -
I don't completely agreetenndawg said:
Let's be brutally honestTequilla said:
Going national WILL NEVER be a strategy for us and more importantly IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE
1/2 a natty in 1990
This past year The Dubs played two good teams, and well...
Washington can sustain staying in the Top 10 for awhile with great coaching and players mostly from Wash and Cali - but there is no reason to believe they will win a natty with the current formula...
If the goal is to be competitive and exciting, then no, they don't need to go national
But if the goal is a natty, they may need to lure a few 4 and 5 stars from Ohio, Michigan, Texas and / or SEC country
If we can get a roster of 40+ 4 star or better kids we're in a discussion to compete for a national championship ... being able to average 10 a year is actually not that much of a stretch going forward ... it's not necessarily easy but very doable.
We need to keep winning at a high level to make sure we start changing the opinions of kids ... particularly in SoCal. It would be very helpful for us to have UCLA continue to wallow in mediocrity under Mora and UCLA to be buried by the massive buyout that he has.
Even for USC, recruiting nationally has usually resulted in a program losing their way ... it's not the answer for winning championships. Stanford can get away with it a bit because of their academics. Oregon gets away with it because of Nike and because they have to expand their recruiting base given what the State of Oregon produces.
I've got absolutely nothing against us going after the 3-5 kids nationally that express a very strong interest in coming to UW whether it is because they have family in the Seattle area, really like what we're doing, etc. But what we can't do is go too hard into the national recruiting picture at the expense of losing out on our established base. The reality is that 75%+ of our recruiting classes will always come from Washington and California ... that's good enough -
Take this shit to HardcoreBuffaloes where it belongs!tenndawg said:
Let's be brutally honestTequilla said:
Going national WILL NEVER be a strategy for us and more importantly IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE
1/2 a natty in 1990
This past year The Dubs played two good teams, and well...
Washington can sustain staying in the Top 10 for awhile with great coaching and players mostly from Wash and Cali - but there is no reason to believe they will win a natty with the current formula...
If the goal is to be competitive and exciting, then no, they don't need to go national
But if the goal is a natty, they may need to lure a few 4 and 5 stars from Ohio, Michigan, Texas and / or SEC country -
Time to start! Jimmy Fucking Lake!!Dennis_DeYoung said:
Name the last commit we had from GA.HUSKYFANATIC said:
Fuck man...... UW could use a Georgia peach every 5 years.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why the fuck would we want to waste time in GA? This kid is never coming to WA.whuggy said:Actually I really hope it's a sign
that we are stretching our normal
recruiting areas. When the new rule
comes in this year, can the 10th asst.
coach be a designated recruiter?
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Also, let's walk back this narrative that we were a good little team last year that got blown out by the 2 good teams that we played.
Before we get anywhere in this, go back and watch Browning before/after his shoulder injury ... the difference is night and day. Browning didn't lose those games for us ... it was the lack of production from the OL and notably the interior of the OL.
Going back to USC, we had 2 major issues in that game that probably don't get enough play. First, Jake Eldrenkamp had missed a handful of games before the SC game and that was his first game back ... my guess is that he was not 100% healthy going into the game and definitely had some rust to him ... it wasn't one of his finest games. When you add that to the already established weaknesses we had on the line with Center and Nick Harris getting rag dolled and that's not a recipe for success for a running game that can't get out of the backfield due to the penetration or giving time to a QB that needs it to throw open WRs with a bum arm. The other issue is that immediately after Victor broke his leg USC really started to expose the middle of the field in the pass game with their TE throughout the 2nd quarter ... it turned the balance of the game.
As for Alabama, again, it was largely OL driven for us combined with not having options in the passing game that possessed enough rare physical abilities. We've addressed the passing game option. Defensively, we showed that we were more than capable of playing on that level. -
What the fuck kind of shit is this? Are you a fucking retard?tenndawg said:
Let's be brutally honestTequilla said:
Going national WILL NEVER be a strategy for us and more importantly IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE
1/2 a natty in 1990
This past year The Dubs played two good teams, and well...
Washington can sustain staying in the Top 10 for awhile with great coaching and players mostly from Wash and Cali - but there is no reason to believe they will win a natty with the current formula...
If the goal is to be competitive and exciting, then no, they don't need to go national
But if the goal is a natty, they may need to lure a few 4 and 5 stars from Ohio, Michigan, Texas and / or SEC country
First of all: where did USC get all it's talent from when it won Natties? SoCal. When they went 'national' what happened? They dropped off. Hmmm, wonder why.
Second, 1990? YEAH! WOO!! YOU SHOULD FUCKING KILL YOURSELF NOW.
This is so fucktaredly stupid I don't even have words for it.
We need good players. It doesn't matter where they come from you shit head. It just so fucking happens that all of our best players come from WA and CA... I WONDER WHY!?!!?!?!?! COULD IT BE BECAUSE... WAIT FOR IT... BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PLAYERS WHO WE HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE CHANCE WITH YOU SHIT FACE?
If it's so fucking important to get players out of 'SEC country' (a/k/a - this is how you know a poster is a fag because they reference 'SEC country'), then WHY THE FUCK does Alabama recruit guys like Foster Sarrell and Tua Tagailova?!? HMMMMM... I FUCKING WONDER.
MAYBE BECAUSE IT MAKES NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE YOU SHIT FOR BRAINS.
If we can get a class with Fozzy, Marlon, AVT and DJ Johnson that is all you fucking need. And, guess what shit for brains, those guys had us in their top tier because: they were close to us. NO FUCKING WAY!!! IT IS A SHOCKER!!!
Hmmm - funny, you know what? Guess who recruited those guys: Bama, Michigan, Ohio State and Miami. HOLY FUCK!!!!
WHAT A SHOCK!!!!!
MIND. BLOWN. -
Meds dialed inDennis_DeYoung said:
What the fuck kind of shit is this? Are you a fucking retard?tenndawg said:
Let's be brutally honestTequilla said:
Going national WILL NEVER be a strategy for us and more importantly IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE
1/2 a natty in 1990
This past year The Dubs played two good teams, and well...
Washington can sustain staying in the Top 10 for awhile with great coaching and players mostly from Wash and Cali - but there is no reason to believe they will win a natty with the current formula...
If the goal is to be competitive and exciting, then no, they don't need to go national
But if the goal is a natty, they may need to lure a few 4 and 5 stars from Ohio, Michigan, Texas and / or SEC country
First of all: where did USC get all it's talent from when it won Natties? SoCal. When they went 'national' what happened? They dropped off. Hmmm, wonder why.
Second, 1990? YEAH! WOO!! YOU SHOULD FUCKING KILL YOURSELF NOW.
This is so fucktaredly stupid I don't even have words for it.
We need good players. It doesn't matter where they come from you shit head. It just so fucking happens that all of our best players come from WA and CA... I WONDER WHY!?!!?!?!?! COULD IT BE BECAUSE... WAIT FOR IT... BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PLAYERS WHO WE HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE CHANCE WITH YOU SHIT FACE?
If it's so fucking important to get players out of 'SEC country' (a/k/a - this is how you know a poster is a fag because they reference 'SEC country'), then WHY THE FUCK does Alabama recruit guys like Foster Sarrell and Tua Tagailova?!? HMMMMM... I FUCKING WONDER.
MAYBE BECAUSE IT MAKES NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE YOU SHIT FOR BRAINS.
If we can get a class with Fozzy, Marlon, AVT and DJ Johnson that is all you fucking need. And, guess what shit for brains, those guys had us in their top tier because: they were close to us. NO FUCKING WAY!!! IT IS A SHOCKER!!!
Hmmm - funny, you know what? Guess who recruited those guys: Bama, Michigan, Ohio State and Miami. HOLY FUCK!!!!
WHAT A SHOCK!!!!!
MIND. BLOWN. -
Just losing the Peach Bowl is already paying off
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If you go back and re-do our recruiting such that we hit on 10 4+ stars every year (which we did in '17; guys we had a real shot at), we would've been a totally different team this year.Tequilla said:Also, let's walk back this narrative that we were a good little team last year that got blown out by the 2 good teams that we played.
Before we get anywhere in this, go back and watch Browning before/after his shoulder injury ... the difference is night and day. Browning didn't lose those games for us ... it was the lack of production from the OL and notably the interior of the OL.
Going back to USC, we had 2 major issues in that game that probably don't get enough play. First, Jake Eldrenkamp had missed a handful of games before the SC game and that was his first game back ... my guess is that he was not 100% healthy going into the game and definitely had some rust to him ... it wasn't one of his finest games. When you add that to the already established weaknesses we had on the line with Center and Nick Harris getting rag dolled and that's not a recipe for success for a running game that can't get out of the backfield due to the penetration or giving time to a QB that needs it to throw open WRs with a bum arm. The other issue is that immediately after Victor broke his leg USC really started to expose the middle of the field in the pass game with their TE throughout the 2nd quarter ... it turned the balance of the game.
As for Alabama, again, it was largely OL driven for us combined with not having options in the passing game that possessed enough rare physical abilities. We've addressed the passing game option. Defensively, we showed that we were more than capable of playing on that level.
2012 (we had 4 4+stars):
Josh Garnett
Zach Banner
Keiverae Russell
Jordan Payton
Michael Rector
2013 (we had 8):
Daeshon Hall
Evan Voeller
2014 (we had 4):
Joe Mixon
Dalton Schultz
Jacob Tuioti-Mariner
Ainuu Taua
2015 (we had 8):
Tristen Hoge
JoJo Wicker
2016 (we had 8):
N'Keal Harry
Jacob Eason
All of those kids are guys from the west coast who we had ties to and lost out on for whatever reason. Just having those dudes would've completely changed the season. -
DDY you cuss beautifully, you hurl insults like the town drunk berating cops - but it doesn't change the fact UW hasn't been particularly effective with their current formula...
Blame Ty, blame Sark, blame Bubushka, whatever...
I'm sure you have researched it enough to know the state of Washington is #22 in average number of Division I recruits produced per year - even Maryland, Indiana and Arizona produce more annual recruits
History shows what history shows - UW would benefit from broadening the recruiting base
No combination of passionately hurled chastisements and infantile name calling will change that - though it is entertaining
And yes, I know the 1/2 natty was 1991...but correcting a typo wasn't that high a priority
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What you're saying makes no sense. I'm showing you right there: the strategy has not been done well because we have had shit coaches.tenndawg said:DDY you cuss beautifully, you hurl insults like the town drunk berating cops - but it doesn't change the fact UW hasn't been particularly effective with their current formula...
Blame Ty, blame Sark, blame Bubushka, whatever...
I'm sure you have researched it enough to know the state of Washington is #22 in average number of Division I recruits produced per year - even Maryland, Indiana and Arizona produce more annual recruits
History shows what history shows - UW would benefit from broadening the recruiting base
No combination of passionately hurled chastisements and infantile name calling will change that - though it is entertaining
And yes, I know the 1/2 natty was 1991...but correcting a typo wasn't that high a priority
We finally have a good one.
We got the most 4-star kids we've ever gotten last year. If we can stack classes like that and expand that to add two 4-star kids every year it makes no fucking difference where they come from. There is NO EVIDENCE that the formula to win Natties includes getting kids from "SEC country". Reggie Bush? Matt Leinert? LenDale White? Rey Maualuga?
All from Cali.
Also, you're stupid fucking stat about WA talent production is retarded.
It doesn't matter what rank we are - we don't need ranked data here. We get a disproportionate number of the top WA players, so the only thing that matters is how many players come out. 6-8 kids per year is an amazing advantage. Salvon, Henry B, Fozzy, etc, getting those kids is step #1 to greatness.
The reason why WA recruiting is so important for us is that we would never sniff a kid like Sirmon if he were in SoCal. But because he's in WA, we are automatically on the short list. All of our 5-stars for the past 25 years have been from WA save for 1.
It's not fucking physics. It's adding one simple fucking variable to the equation.
It's about YIELD.
Can you calculate expected value? Try that!
Fuck.
So, there's no evidence that kids from "SEC country" have led to natties for P12 teams and we were 5 good WC players away from a natty last year and now you think the strategy doesn't work because you have a boner for the dumb narrative of "SEC talent"?
Great job.
