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  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652

    We lost 59 to 24, maybe 59 to 14 ... depending on how a few calls go.

    The touchback was a good call, but it was self-imposed by Oregon, not by us.

    Lowe was wide open - I catch that pass and walk in for 6.

    Almost as embarassingly as when Chip did it for his mancrush, Helfrich killed the clock with 6 or 7 minutes to go.

    The truth is, they could have scored 70 on us with only slightly different circumstances that have nothing to do with our play, and they basically kept Sankey in check but for two plays.

    If all you're going to call Oregon is "good", then we are crap.

    If we're a good team, then they are historically great.

    I'm sorry. The Sark silver lining that you see entirely escapes me.

    That should reveal why it escapes you, and me.

  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331

    Tequilla said:



    Sark should be fired if he goes 5-4 in conference for the fourth year in a row. 6-3 barely buys him one more year.

    Why don't more people understand this. 5-4 = 5-4 = 5-4 = 5-4 .

    If there was ever a year to get to a hollow 9-4 it was last year with a depleted offensive line (Great Recruiting as Always) and a first year DC with an improving defense.

    This year 5-4 is a huge failure with a 5th year senior good QB and all conference tailback with an above average defense.

    Things are not going to be better next season breaking in a new QB.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    edited October 2013

    I don't know where the pre-season thread went but most people considered 10 wins a good season. Can't move the goalposts like Auburn.

    9-4 and the season is a failure. 10-3 passes.

    Will be favored against OSU and should split ASU/UCLA. Thats 9-3, win the bowl for 10 wins.

    Winning out would show real progress, but thats only realistic if you win this weekend.

    Sadly, I agree with greenblood and would guess 9-4 at this point.

    Your ongoing optimism in the face of a mountain of evidence is so cute.

    I don't even think UW will be favored against OS. The Beavers will likely be 7-3 going into that game and could be 8-2 if they beat Stanford at home or win at ASU. Unlike the Huskies, the Beavers have actually proven they can win on the road in the Pac-12.

    By the way, I'm 100% sure UW won't win out if they don't win this weekend.
    Funny thing is, if OSU was UW, you'd have the exact opposite view....

    OSU has played the 69th schedule, UW #7, according to Sagarin. Yeah the win over Utah looks good but their schedule is back loaded. They'll lose to Stanford, USC and ASU and be 6-4. Then they'll lose to UW & UO.

    OSU is 10th in total defense (ypp) and rush defense (ypc), 9th in scoring D and last in rush offense. This is a team that is going to really struggle later in the season because they have a shit defense and the worst run game in the conference.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I don't know where the pre-season thread went but most people considered 10 wins a good season. Can't move the goalposts like Auburn.

    9-4 and the season is a failure. 10-3 passes.

    Will be favored against OSU and should split ASU/UCLA. Thats 9-3, win the bowl for 10 wins.

    Winning out would show real progress, but thats only realistic if you win this weekend.

    Sadly, I agree with greenblood and would guess 9-4 at this point.

    Your ongoing optimism in the face of a mountain of evidence is so cute.

    I don't even think UW will be favored against OS. The Beavers will likely be 7-3 going into that game and could be 8-2 if they beat Stanford at home or win at ASU. Unlike the Huskies, the Beavers have actually proven they can win on the road in the Pac-12.

    By the way, I'm 100% sure UW won't win out if they don't win this weekend.
    Funny thing is, if OSU was UW, you'd have the exact opposite view....

    OSU has played the 69th schedule, UW #7, according to Sagarin. Yeah the win over Utah looks good but their schedule is back loaded. They'll lose to Stanford, USC and ASU and be 6-4. Then they'll lose to UW & UO.

    OSU is 10th in total defense (ypp) and rush defense (ypc), 9th in scoring D and last in rush offense. This is a team that is going to really struggle later in the season because they have a shit defense and the worst run game in the conference.
    OSU isn't losing all three of those games. Two of them are at home. USC hates playing in the state of Oregon.


    Great Dooging as always though.
  • vadawg
    vadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 467 Swaye's Wigwam
  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652

    I don't know
    where the pre-season thread went but most people considered 10 wins a good season. Can't move the goalposts like Auburn.

    9-4 and the season is a failure. 10-3 passes.

    Will be favored against OSU and should split ASU/UCLA. Thats 9-3, win the bowl for 10 wins.

    Winning out would show real progress, but thats only realistic if you win this weekend.

    Sadly, I agree with greenblood and would guess 9-4 at this point.

    Your ongoing optimism in the face of a mountain of evidence is so cute.

    I don't even think UW will be favored against OS. The Beavers will likely be 7-3 going into that game and could be 8-2 if they beat Stanford at home or win at ASU. Unlike the Huskies, the Beavers have actually proven they can win on the road in the Pac-12.

    By the way, I'm 100% sure UW won't win out if they don't win this weekend.
    Funny thing is, if OSU was UW, you'd have the exact opposite view....

    OSU has played the 69th schedule, UW #7, according to Sagarin. Yeah the win over Utah looks good but their schedule is back loaded. They'll lose to Stanford, USC and ASU and be 6-4. Then they'll lose to UW & UO.

    OSU is 10th in total defense (ypp) and rush defense (ypc), 9th in scoring D and last in rush offense. This is a team that is going to really struggle later in the season because they have a shit defense and the worst run game in the conference.
    OSU is about the same place they were when the Huskies didn't show up to play the last time in Corvallis.

    Same coach, different outcome? Insanity.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    edited October 2013
    Screenshots are saved and filed away....
  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    Sark should be fired if he goes 5-4 in conference for the fourth year in a row. 6-3 barely buys him one more year.

    If it wasn't for those meddling refs in Palo Altos, 6-3 would have been possible.
  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652

    Sark should be fired if he goes 5-4 in conference for the fourth year in a row. 6-3 barely buys him one more year.

    If it wasn't for those meddling refs in Palo Altos, 6-3 would have been possible.

    Conspiracy theory superiority guy.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    So what I'm seeing in the College Football Matrix is that the baseline for the program this year ranged between 9-3 and 10-2 ...

    I felt that 10-2 was the best case scenario for the year going into it ... and that looks to be consistent w/ the Matrix ... it was possibly too optimistic in thinking we'd get Oregon at home.

    The matrix makes sense strictly from a Jimmy and Joe standpoint ...
  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652
    Tequilla said:

    So what I'm seeing in the College Football Matrix is that the baseline for the program this year ranged between 9-3 and 10-2 ...

    I felt that 10-2 was the best case scenario for the year going into it ... and that looks to be consistent w/ the Matrix ... it was possibly too optimistic in thinking we'd not get plungered by Oregon at home.

    The matrix makes sense strictly from a Jimmy and Joe standpoint ...

    FTFY
  • This team SHOULD win 10 however at best they'll win 8.

    Beating ASU will be easier than Oregon State IMO.

    Oregon State has something they are elite at(passing) while ASU doesn't.

    Lose this one and 7-5 is happening.
  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    7.5 - Vegas really amazes me
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    There's some good ... there's some bad.

    Good to see that he understands that the ASU game is the biggest game of the year (now that he's failed to end the Decade of Dominance) ...

    There's no doubt that the PAC has a number of good teams ... but it's critical this year that he shows that he doesn't have his annual 3 game October swoon in him ...

    Forget the score Saturday, I saw more good things than bad things ... and that's not a moral victory. Oregon's good ... better than we are right now. They adjusted to the things that we took away and minimized where we had advantages. That's what good teams do.

    Time to go beat Arizona State ... a 9 and even 10 win season are still within reach.

    Tequilla still loved Sark in October 2013 bump.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,326 Founders Club
    edited February 2017

    Tequilla said:

    There's some good ... there's some bad.

    Good to see that he understands that the ASU game is the biggest game of the year (now that he's failed to end the Decade of Dominance) ...

    There's no doubt that the PAC has a number of good teams ... but it's critical this year that he shows that he doesn't have his annual 3 game October swoon in him ...

    Forget the score Saturday, I saw more good things than bad things ... and that's not a moral victory. Oregon's good ... better than we are right now. They adjusted to the things that we took away and minimized where we had advantages. That's what good teams do.

    Time to go beat Arizona State ... a 9 and even 10 win season are still within reach.

    Tequilla still loved Sark in October 2013 bump.
    Can you bump something post 2013 at ASU or perhaps after the UCLA game to add to this assessment? Seems like the ASU game that year was the final nail in the coffin and proof that Sark could never achieve better than 5-4 in conference. I think heading into 2013 it was readily apparent that Sark probably was mediocre/somewhat crappy at best as a HC, but don't think it was case closed that he couldn't produce a 7-2 and 6-3 in conference type of year.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    That was a fantastic game. Iirc you guys ended up with like -5 rushing yards after your RB was leading the nation in rushing.

    Classic sarkish performance. How he fools people is just mind boggling
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Tequilla said:

    There's some good ... there's some bad.

    Good to see that he understands that the ASU game is the biggest game of the year (now that he's failed to end the Decade of Dominance) ...

    There's no doubt that the PAC has a number of good teams ... but it's critical this year that he shows that he doesn't have his annual 3 game October swoon in him ...

    Forget the score Saturday, I saw more good things than bad things ... and that's not a moral victory. Oregon's good ... better than we are right now. They adjusted to the things that we took away and minimized where we had advantages. That's what good teams do.

    Time to go beat Arizona State ... a 9 and even 10 win season are still within reach.

    Tequilla still loved Sark in October 2013 bump.
    Can you bump something post 2013 at ASU or perhaps after the UCLA game to add to this assessment? Seems like the ASU game that year was the final nail in the coffin and proof that Sark could never achieve better than 5-4 in conference. I think heading into 2013 it was readily apparent that Sark probably was mediocre/somewhat crappy at best as a HC, but don't think it was case closed that he couldn't produce a 7-2 and 6-3 in conference type of year.
    CHRIST.

    He should have been fired in 2011
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    There's some good ... there's some bad.

    Good to see that he understands that the ASU game is the biggest game of the year (now that he's failed to end the Decade of Dominance) ...

    There's no doubt that the PAC has a number of good teams ... but it's critical this year that he shows that he doesn't have his annual 3 game October swoon in him ...

    Forget the score Saturday, I saw more good things than bad things ... and that's not a moral victory. Oregon's good ... better than we are right now. They adjusted to the things that we took away and minimized where we had advantages. That's what good teams do.

    Time to go beat Arizona State ... a 9 and even 10 win season are still within reach.

    Tequilla still loved Sark in October 2013 bump.
    There's nothing in that comment that suggests that I love Sark ... sorry ... try again

    Also FUCK OFF in stealing DDY's avatar ... that should get you perma-banned
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,326 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:

    There's some good ... there's some bad.

    Good to see that he understands that the ASU game is the biggest game of the year (now that he's failed to end the Decade of Dominance) ...

    There's no doubt that the PAC has a number of good teams ... but it's critical this year that he shows that he doesn't have his annual 3 game October swoon in him ...

    Forget the score Saturday, I saw more good things than bad things ... and that's not a moral victory. Oregon's good ... better than we are right now. They adjusted to the things that we took away and minimized where we had advantages. That's what good teams do.

    Time to go beat Arizona State ... a 9 and even 10 win season are still within reach.

    Tequilla still loved Sark in October 2013 bump.
    Can you bump something post 2013 at ASU or perhaps after the UCLA game to add to this assessment? Seems like the ASU game that year was the final nail in the coffin and proof that Sark could never achieve better than 5-4 in conference. I think heading into 2013 it was readily apparent that Sark probably was mediocre/somewhat crappy at best as a HC, but don't think it was case closed that he couldn't produce a 7-2 and 6-3 in conference type of year.
    CHRIST.

    He should have been fired in 2011
    Yeah, in hindsight he was complete and total piece of shit. But who amongst this segment of the fan base was on record at the end of 2011 calling for his head on a spike? I have no idea - I was never a Dawgman guy, nor did participate in the predecessor to this site.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,326 Founders Club

    That was a fantastic game. Iirc you guys ended up with like -5 rushing yards after your RB was leading the nation in rushing.

    Classic sarkish performance. How he fools people is just mind boggling

    Fuck that game in the face. There's been a lot of shitty losses to Sparky over the years but that one was epic in it's shittiness.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    There's some good ... there's some bad.

    Good to see that he understands that the ASU game is the biggest game of the year (now that he's failed to end the Decade of Dominance) ...

    There's no doubt that the PAC has a number of good teams ... but it's critical this year that he shows that he doesn't have his annual 3 game October swoon in him ...

    Forget the score Saturday, I saw more good things than bad things ... and that's not a moral victory. Oregon's good ... better than we are right now. They adjusted to the things that we took away and minimized where we had advantages. That's what good teams do.

    Time to go beat Arizona State ... a 9 and even 10 win season are still within reach.

    Tequilla still loved Sark in October 2013 bump.
    There's nothing in that comment that suggests that I love Sark ... sorry ... try again

    Also FUCK OFF in stealing DDY's avatar ... that should get you perma-banned
    Huh?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    There's some good ... there's some bad.

    Good to see that he understands that the ASU game is the biggest game of the year (now that he's failed to end the Decade of Dominance) ...

    There's no doubt that the PAC has a number of good teams ... but it's critical this year that he shows that he doesn't have his annual 3 game October swoon in him ...

    Forget the score Saturday, I saw more good things than bad things ... and that's not a moral victory. Oregon's good ... better than we are right now. They adjusted to the things that we took away and minimized where we had advantages. That's what good teams do.

    Time to go beat Arizona State ... a 9 and even 10 win season are still within reach.

    Tequilla still loved Sark in October 2013 bump.
    There's nothing in that comment that suggests that I love Sark ... sorry ... try again

    Also FUCK OFF in stealing DDY's avatar ... that should get you perma-banned
    Huh?
    That's one way to find yourself ignored ...
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    There's some good ... there's some bad.

    Good to see that he understands that the ASU game is the biggest game of the year (now that he's failed to end the Decade of Dominance) ...

    There's no doubt that the PAC has a number of good teams ... but it's critical this year that he shows that he doesn't have his annual 3 game October swoon in him ...

    Forget the score Saturday, I saw more good things than bad things ... and that's not a moral victory. Oregon's good ... better than we are right now. They adjusted to the things that we took away and minimized where we had advantages. That's what good teams do.

    Time to go beat Arizona State ... a 9 and even 10 win season are still within reach.

    Tequilla still loved Sark in October 2013 bump.
    There's nothing in that comment that suggests that I love Sark ... sorry ... try again

    Also FUCK OFF in stealing DDY's avatar ... that should get you perma-banned
    Huh?
    That's one way to find yourself ignored ...
    It is bad for my brand.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    There's some good ... there's some bad.

    Good to see that he understands that the ASU game is the biggest game of the year (now that he's failed to end the Decade of Dominance) ...

    There's no doubt that the PAC has a number of good teams ... but it's critical this year that he shows that he doesn't have his annual 3 game October swoon in him ...

    Forget the score Saturday, I saw more good things than bad things ... and that's not a moral victory. Oregon's good ... better than we are right now. They adjusted to the things that we took away and minimized where we had advantages. That's what good teams do.

    Time to go beat Arizona State ... a 9 and even 10 win season are still within reach.

    Tequilla still loved Sark in October 2013 bump.
    There's nothing in that comment that suggests that I love Sark ... sorry ... try again

    Also FUCK OFF in stealing DDY's avatar ... that should get you perma-banned
    Huh?
    That's one way to find yourself ignored ...
    It is bad for my brand.
    You need to have an opinion to have a brand
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Good bump. Nice to read a glimpse back to when boobs was one of the better posters here and actually tried.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Gladstone said:

    Good bump. Nice to read a glimpse back to when boobs was one of the better posters here and actually tried.

    Boobs hasn't changed much. The team being good is the real difference. It's a small price to pay.
    Bingo. There's not much to debate when the team is good.