Who said it: Sark or Mora?
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At least Mora said that shit after a win.
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Who said it: Sark or Mora?
"We're close but it doesn't matter. We're not after being close. Heck with being close. Losers can be close. We want to get it. We want to win those games. The coulda, the woulda, the shoulda -- all that crap, we don't want that. I'm tired of that. It's time for (insert school) to turn the freaking page and be something different and win those games. That's what it's time to be."
Hint - it wasn't Sark in year 5, it was Mora in year 2.
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they're both losers. hth.dnc said:Who said it: Sark or Mora?
"We're close but it doesn't matter. We're not after being close. Heck with being close. Losers can be close. We want to get it. We want to win those games. The coulda, the woulda, the shoulda -- all that crap, we don't want that. I'm tired of that. It's time for (insert school) to turn the freaking page and be something different and win those games. That's what it's time to be."
Hint - it wasn't Sark in year 5, it was Mora in year 2.
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I watched Mora's press conference after Colorado and it was very Sark like. "We are building something special, but it's a process. We aren't there yet. We lost to two very good teams. I thought our guys weren't having fun playing football in the first half. You gotta have fun playing football. In the second half, we had fun, and we saw what happened. I'm going to enjoy the heck out of this win because wins are hard in this conference." I am paraphrasing, but Mora said all of these things.
Mora is a better coach, but as I have been saying for weeks, caring what anyone says in a press conference or interview is doogish. -
Chrisvashon has reached Krisvashon territory in this thread.
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You're the last person to be calling out doogish behavior.RoadDawg55 said:I watched Mora's press conference after Colorado and it was very Sark like. "We are building something special, but it's a process. We aren't there yet. We lost to two very good teams. I thought our guys weren't having fun playing football in the first half. You gotta have fun playing football. In the second half, we had fun, and we saw what happened. I'm going to enjoy the heck out of this win because wins are hard in this conference." I am paraphrasing, but Mora said all of these things.
Mora is a better coach, but as I have been saying for weeks, caring what anyone says in a press conference or interview is doogish.
If Sark makes it to 9 wins you'll be dooging it up worse than Auburndoog. -
I don't know why you keep saying that. I wouldn't have been fine even if hypothetical 9-4 actually happened last year. Ever since I said you are a fucking idiot for saying UW will be 1-3 or 2-2 next year in their non conference schedule, you have been a little bitch. I've wanted Sark fired since the LSU game, and I would have been fine if he was fired after the Alamo Bowl. Enjoy Texas, clean out your cunt flaps, and get back to me.topdawgnc said:
You're the last person to be calling out doogish behavior.RoadDawg55 said:I watched Mora's press conference after Colorado and it was very Sark like. "We are building something special, but it's a process. We aren't there yet. We lost to two very good teams. I thought our guys weren't having fun playing football in the first half. You gotta have fun playing football. In the second half, we had fun, and we saw what happened. I'm going to enjoy the heck out of this win because wins are hard in this conference." I am paraphrasing, but Mora said all of these things.
Mora is a better coach, but as I have been saying for weeks, caring what anyone says in a press conference or interview is doogish.
If Sark makes it to 9 wins you'll be dooging it up worse than Auburndoog.
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http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_bruins_colorado_buffaloes/2013/11/3/5062284/jim-mora-ucla-hung-over-colorado
Here is Mora's post game Colorado press conference. Read what the author has to say.
"Making excuses after a lackluster win against one of the worst teams in the conference (while taking commitments from Dorrellian offensive recruits) is not exactly what we had in mind during Mora's second year in Westwood."
"Mora's coachspeak is fine but it's a little unsettling to see him downplaying ("managing") expectations seven games into this year given it was himself who talked about this season being an "opportunity" to break through. And, also the comments about the "juices" flowing in the second half doesn't mean all that much given that this is not the first time his team has looked disinterested and uninspiring in the first half (check back the replays of the Nevada, New Mexico State and UC Berkeley games)."
I like Mora, I think he is much better than Sark, but why does this site pump up everything good he does, and push it aside when he doesn't? -
I just don't give a fuck anymore.
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I love how UCLA views a 22 point win as a disappointment.
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Meanwhile, UW views a 22 point loss as incremental progress.TierbsHsotBoobs said:I love how UCLA views a 22 point win as a disappointment.
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THere is a huge line to beaux mora on this site and it is annoying at times. I agree he really should be our coach right now when tyrone should have been fired years ago. But he isn't and we get to see how good of a coach he really is. I think he is a good coach but I want to see how they respond to adversity and perform vs ASU and USC.
I am willing to let it play out through year 3 but so far he looks to be good but not great.
Say or don't say whatever the hell you want. Just win. Kick Ass pressers after losses are for losers too. No matter what is said after the loss. -
AtomicDawg said:
THere is a huge line to beaux mora on this site and it is annoying at times. I agree he really should be our coach right now when tyrone should have been fired years ago. But he isn't and we get to see how good of a coach he really is. I think he is a good coach but I want to see how they respond to adversity and perform vs ASU and USC.
I am willing to let it play out through year 3 but so far he looks to be good but not great.
Say or don't say whatever the hell you want. Just win. Kick Ass pressers after losses are for losers too. No matter what is said after the loss.
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At least Mora paid his dues, already had head coaching experience, and assembled an enviable staff from Day 1. Our pool boy was just an OC for 2 years (with 5 star talent no less) and other than Nussmeier, Thomas, and (maybe) Mike Cox, and (maybe) Demetrius Martin, his original hires pretty much sucked. Then he replaces Nuss with a Eric K? Or replaces Thomas with his drinking and skirt chasing buddy Johnny Nansen?
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For the millionth time, it's not about Sark vs Mora. (But the fact that people feel the need to point out how bad Sark is in order to justify Mora's mediocrity is telling.)
It's about pushing back on the idea that Mora is some transcedant coach. That he's above excuse-making and tempering expectations and kick ass pressers.
The reality is that Mora is just another guy. He uses the same coach speak, he makes the same excuses. He's average. And not UW's savior. -
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Woody is pool boy. Sark is Dude or Surfer Brah.
HTH
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Why do you call Sark Pool Boy?MisterEm said:New York-
Woody is pool boy. Sark is Dude or Surfer Brah.
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I need to see a championship........
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As long as both Sark and Pool Boy are here, more likely to see Pool Boy's hand grabbing Sark's ass than ever a championship. So sorry.He_Needs_More_Time said:I need to see a championship........
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Mediocre is a bit strong. He won the division last season and over achieved. This year is not yet finished and asu and USC will determine it.chrisvashon said:For the millionth time, it's not about Sark vs Mora. (But the fact that people feel the need to point out how bad Sark is in order to justify Mora's mediocrity is telling.)
It's about pushing back on the idea that Mora is some transcedant coach. That he's above excuse-making and tempering expectations and kick ass pressers.
The reality is that Mora is just another guy. He uses the same coach speak, he makes the same excuses. He's average. And not UW's savior.
If they are still losing to Stanford and oregon next year that is a red flag.
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Time will tell, one way or the other, but I do think he will prove to be a very good college football coach. He's emphasizing the right areas in recruiting and bringing a physical style of play to UCLA, something that they've lacked for a very long time.AtomicDawg said:
Mediocre is a bit strong. He won the division last season and over achieved. This year is not yet finished and asu and USC will determine it.chrisvashon said:For the millionth time, it's not about Sark vs Mora. (But the fact that people feel the need to point out how bad Sark is in order to justify Mora's mediocrity is telling.)
It's about pushing back on the idea that Mora is some transcedant coach. That he's above excuse-making and tempering expectations and kick ass pressers.
The reality is that Mora is just another guy. He uses the same coach speak, he makes the same excuses. He's average. And not UW's savior.
If they are still losing to Stanford and oregon next year that is a red flag.
That said, I do think it is fair to say that his trajectory in the NFL was a lot like Neuheisel's in college, which does lend credibility to a wait and see position on him. And, in hindsight I'm also not so sure he over achieved last year. Rick "won" the division the year before with a gimpy team and a 6-6 record. That division has been very weak. Mora also closed out the season with three straight losses including a full on power plunger in the bowel game. Very Sark like. Still, I'd trade UCLA coaches and not spend a second thinking about the decision. We're going nowhere with Sark. -
Look, @chrisvashon, DJ's coaching tree has the #1 college coach in the past 20 years, Saban. It has a top tier coach in Pinkel. On a lower branch is Mora. Mora never got a great shot at Atlanta or the Seahawks. So far, he looks better than Sark to me, but that's not hard, because Sark is an average OC and a lousy HC. We can hire a better OC and a better HC, that's not hard.
I really don't give a shit, who said what after a game. I care about how the kids respond to the coach. I actually care more about the fucked up Honks say, than I care about what the coach says. It's always predictable, obvious bull shit anyway. -
So then, you guys are okay with him losing to Oregon and Stanford, as long as he says the right things?
Sounds like a moral victorism to me... rather doogish. -
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Nobody said that, doog.Your_Mom said:So then, you guys are okay with him losing to Oregon and Stanford, as long as he says the right things?
Sounds like a moral victorism to me... rather doogish. -
Rick won the south the year before and was fired. I wouldn't call that over achieving.AtomicDawg said:
Mediocre is a bit strong. He won the division last season and over achieved. This year is not yet finished and asu and USC will determine it.chrisvashon said:For the millionth time, it's not about Sark vs Mora. (But the fact that people feel the need to point out how bad Sark is in order to justify Mora's mediocrity is telling.)
It's about pushing back on the idea that Mora is some transcedant coach. That he's above excuse-making and tempering expectations and kick ass pressers.
The reality is that Mora is just another guy. He uses the same coach speak, he makes the same excuses. He's average. And not UW's savior.
If they are still losing to Stanford and oregon next year that is a red flag. -
USC won the south and was ineligible. USC beat Rick by 60 points that year. HTHalumni94 said:Rick won the south the year before and was fired. I wouldn't call that over achieving.
AtomicDawg said:
Mediocre is a bit strong. He won the division last season and over achieved. This year is not yet finished and asu and USC will determine it.chrisvashon said:For the millionth time, it's not about Sark vs Mora. (But the fact that people feel the need to point out how bad Sark is in order to justify Mora's mediocrity is telling.)
It's about pushing back on the idea that Mora is some transcedant coach. That he's above excuse-making and tempering expectations and kick ass pressers.
The reality is that Mora is just another guy. He uses the same coach speak, he makes the same excuses. He's average. And not UW's savior.
If they are still losing to Stanford and oregon next year that is a red flag. -
I agree that IDGAF what a coach says in a presser. This thread is directed at those who, just a week ago, were posting links to Mora's press conference and fawning over what a badass, take-no-prisoners dude he is.death2ducks said:Look, @chrisvashon, DJ's coaching tree has the #1 college coach in the past 20 years, Saban. It has a top tier coach in Pinkel. On a lower branch is Mora. Mora never got a great shot at Atlanta or the Seahawks. So far, he looks better than Sark to me, but that's not hard, because Sark is an average OC and a lousy HC. We can hire a better OC and a better HC, that's not hard.
I really don't give a shit, who said what after a game. I care about how the kids respond to the coach. I actually care more about the fucked up Honks say, than I care about what the coach says. It's always predictable, obvious bull shit anyway.
So it's pretty funny that a week later he goes full Sark and starts talking about how they're young and it's a process and it's going to take awhile.
That's it. Mora may well turn out to be a great coach (I'm very skeptical, but it could happen). But it will have nothing to do with his kick ass pressers. Just like always. -
Press conferences are on my ignore list unless the coach is having a meltdown. I love those. The best ones I've seen over the years have come from Jim Mora, Jim L Mora, and Herm Edwards. Not surprisingly those are three of my favorite coaches.
Coach speak is always gay but every coach uses it. Those guys get paid the big bucks to sit there in front of the media and use as many words as possible to say absolutely nothing. I pay no attention. -
It's undoubtedly a good thing that football coaches aren't paid to talk,........ although the best amongst the craft seem to have the knack for getting the most mileage for the wind exhaled in public.
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