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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    B+

    Tequilla said:

    DDY is taking the gloves off

    Why is DDY fighting with Roady, Tequila? Next man up? DDY's rehab doc must work wonders. Or else his pills are fucking great.
    Because Roady is FS when it comes to TBS'ing
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    B+

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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    B
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    DDY is taking the gloves off

    Why is DDY fighting with Roady, Tequila? Next man up? DDY's rehab doc must work wonders. Or else his pills are fucking great.
    Because Roady is FS when it comes to TBS'ing
    Don't let me stop the fight, but I think you're both ranking too high.

    A- Roady? How? Degree of difficulty?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    B+
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    DDY is taking the gloves off

    Why is DDY fighting with Roady, Tequila? Next man up? DDY's rehab doc must work wonders. Or else his pills are fucking great.
    Because Roady is FS when it comes to TBS'ing
    disagree
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    B+
    Get the fuck off of where we finish with recruiting rankings ... it is all about quality for us because we don't have the quantity yearly now that we have a grown up that runs the program

    The fact that we are taking anywhere from 15-20 a year per class versus a full 25 actually makes it EASIER for us to recruit well going forward

    But keep posting Roady ... you sure are showing DDY what's up
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    edited February 2017
    A-
    Tequilla said:

    Get the fuck off of where we finish with recruiting rankings ... it is all about quality for us because we don't have the quantity yearly now that we have a grown up that runs the program

    The fact that we are taking anywhere from 15-20 a year per class versus a full 25 actually makes it EASIER for us to recruit well going forward

    But keep posting Roady ... you sure are showing DDY what's up

    But the point was about rankings?? I agree we are recruiting well and can do even better.

    Are Alabama and every other fucking school I listed not concerned about quality?

    I don't disagree with DDY about his overall philosophies on recruiting. To think we are going to consistently be top 10 (by any measure) is absurd. Arguing against that is literally ignoring years of data. I'm pretty sure the schools I listed will mostly continue to recruit well. It can't be any more clear, but believe what you want.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    A-

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    DDY is taking the gloves off

    Why is DDY fighting with Roady, Tequila? Next man up? DDY's rehab doc must work wonders. Or else his pills are fucking great.
    Because Roady is FS when it comes to TBS'ing
    Don't let me stop the fight, but I think you're both ranking too high.

    A- Roady? How? Degree of difficulty?
    Should have been a B or B+, mainly because of Haener. I posted the reasoning earlier.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    B+

    Tequilla said:

    Get the fuck off of where we finish with recruiting rankings ... it is all about quality for us because we don't have the quantity yearly now that we have a grown up that runs the program

    The fact that we are taking anywhere from 15-20 a year per class versus a full 25 actually makes it EASIER for us to recruit well going forward

    But keep posting Roady ... you sure are showing DDY what's up

    But the point was about rankings?? I agree we are recruiting well and can do even better.

    Are Alabama and every other fucking school I listed not concerned about quality?
    Because the rankings as reported aren't standardized ... the way to standardize is based on quality not quantity
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited February 2017
    B+
    @RoadDawg55
    If we keep producing 10+ wins seasons and send kids to NFL, we should be able to recruit top 10 recruiting classes on a star averages.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    B+

    @RoadDawg55
    If we keep producing 10+ wins seasons and send kids to NFL, we should be able to recruit top 10 recruiting classes on a star averages.

    I think we can get to where we do this maybe 3 years out of 5. I don't think we'll ever be at the place where we do this five years in a row.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    edited February 2017
    A-
    Split the top 30 recruiting teams into 3 tiers. 1-10 tier one, 10-20 tier 2, 20-30 tier 3.

    Right now we are borderline tier 2, more likely tier 3. The original blue bloods listed are tier one. Getting into tier 2 and occasionally getting into tier one is definitely feasible.

    Consistently getting into tier one probably isn't happening. It's simple stuff. We aren't geographically favored and those teams mostly win big every year (USC and Texas sometimes not). There is hardly a year those schools aren't top 10 in recruiting.

    That leaves 3 or 4 spots open in tier one for 15 or so schools that are tier 2/ tier 3.

    Alabama, Ohio State, USC, Texas, FSU, Michigan, Georgia, and LSU aren't going to stop pulling in great classes. You can argue quanity/quality, but I'm sure their average star ranking is high too.

    Schools like Florida, Oklahoma, A&M, Penn State, Auburn, Clemson, Miami, etc are going to likely going to continue to recruit well like they do every fucking year. They get a lot of 4 star guys and occasionally a 5. All get more 5 star guys than UW. There are teams that suck and still reel in very good classes most years like Tennessee and UCLA.

    It's not doogish, it doesn't mean we can't win (we already are). It's just the way it is. It doesn't mean we can't or won't recruit better. We can.

    It's really not that difficult to understand. I'm not making any outlandish claim. I can't believe this is really an argument.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    B+

    Split the top 30 recruiting teams into 3 tiers. 1-10 tier one, 10-20 tier 2, 20-30 tier 3.

    Right now we are borderline tier 2, more likely tier 3. The original blue bloods listed are tier one. Getting into tier 2 and occasionally getting into tier one is definitely feasible.

    Consistently getting into tier one probably isn't happening. It's simple stuff. We aren't geographically favored and those teams mostly win big every year (USC and Texas sometimes not). There is hardly a year those schools aren't top 10 in recruiting.

    That leaves 3 or 4 spots open in tier one for 15 or so schools that are tier 2/ tier 3.

    Alabama, Ohio State, USC, Texas, FSU, Michigan, Georgia, and LSU aren't going to stop pulling in great classes. You can argue quanity/quality, but I'm sure their average star ranking is high too.

    Schools like Florida, Oklahoma, A&M, Penn State, Auburn, Clemson, Miami, etc are going to likely going to continue to recruit well like they do every fucking year. They get a lot of 4 star guys and occasionally a 5. All get more 5 star guys than UW. There are teams that suck and still reel in very good classes most years like Tennessee and UCLA.

    It's not doogish, it doesn't mean we can't win (we already are). It's just the way it is. It doesn't mean we can't or won't recruit better. We can.

    It's really not that difficult to understand. I'm not making any outlandish claim. I can't believe this is really an argument.

    Including Clemson in that list makes my point for me.
  • Newsnitch
    Newsnitch Member Posts: 7
    B-
    B-. Only place where we hit our goal was WR/TE. We got some work to do.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    B+
    Newsnitch said:

    B-. Only place where we hit our goal was WR/TE. We got some work to do.

    Where the fuck is the old snitch? @Snitch was taken?!?

    Get a goddamn avatar.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    B+
    Newsnitch said:

    B-. Only place where we hit our goal was WR/TE. We got some work to do.

    CB?
  • kh83
    kh83 Member Posts: 596
    Total fucks given about this classes grades now = 0. Let's see what they do and how we grade them in the Callier.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    B+
    kh83 said:

    Total fucks given about this classes grades now = 0. Let's see what they do and how we grade them in the Callier.

    Disagree.
  • FraleyMcClatcher
    FraleyMcClatcher Member Posts: 13
    B
    This might be the best class at UW since Romar landed Pondexter, Nelson, Oliver and Hawes. If Marlon wasn't on the DNF list it would have been up there with that all Asian golf class a few years back.

    We were any one or combination of IPM, Ah Chu, AVT or a Echols type away from it being a front runner.

  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    B+

    This might be the best class at UW since Romar landed Pondexter, Nelson, Oliver and Hawes. If Marlon wasn't on the DNF list it would have been up there with that all Asian golf class a few years back.

    We were any one or combination of IPM, Ah Chu, AVT or a Echols type away from it being a front runner.

    I like the cut of your jib.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    B

    This might be the best class at UW since Romar landed Pondexter, Nelson, Oliver and Hawes. If Marlon wasn't on the DNF list it would have been up there with that all Asian golf class a few years back.

    We were any one or combination of IPM, Ah Chu, AVT or a Echols type away from it being a front runner.

    I like the cut of your jib.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    B+

    This might be the best class at UW since Romar landed Pondexter, Nelson, Oliver and Hawes. If Marlon wasn't on the DNF list it would have been up there with that all Asian golf class a few years back.

    We were any one or combination of IPM, Ah Chu, AVT or a Echols type away from it being a front runner.

    STAY!
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    D+ or lower

    This might be the best class at UW since Romar landed Pondexter, Nelson, Oliver and Hawes. If Marlon wasn't on the DNF list it would have been up there with that all Asian golf class a few years back.

    We were any one or combination of IPM, Ah Chu, AVT or a Echols type away from it being a front runner.

    The current bball class (if it doesn't fall apart) would cum fiesta all over that class.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited February 2017
    B+

    This might be the best class at UW since Romar landed Pondexter, Nelson, Oliver and Hawes. If Marlon wasn't on the DNF list it would have been up there with that all Asian golf class a few years back.

    We were any one or combination of IPM, Ah Chu, AVT or a Echols type away from it being a front runner.

    The current bball class (if it doesn't fall apart) would cum fiesta all over that class.
    Interesting comp. Porter Jr >>>>>>>>> Hawes, but there's nobody else in the class who will be as good of a player as Pondexter.

    I'd still probably take next year's class, cause it's unlikely we lose the bottom half of it after just one year, but I'd take the 02 class over either of them.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    D+ or lower
    dnc said:

    This might be the best class at UW since Romar landed Pondexter, Nelson, Oliver and Hawes. If Marlon wasn't on the DNF list it would have been up there with that all Asian golf class a few years back.

    We were any one or combination of IPM, Ah Chu, AVT or a Echols type away from it being a front runner.

    The current bball class (if it doesn't fall apart) would cum fiesta all over that class.
    Interesting comp. Porter Jr >>>>>>>>> Hawes, but there's nobody else in the class who will be as good of a player as Pondexter.

    I'd still probably take next year's class, cause it's unlikely we lose the bottom half of it after just one year, but I'd take the 02 class over either of them.
    Porter is better than Hawes. No doubt about it.

    Pondexter was inconsistent before his monster senior year.

    I honestly think Jaylen Nowell can be as good as Q-Pon. He won't have the back to the basket post up game (not the same body type), but his midrange game is already senior year Pondexter level.

    The other pieces are better than Oliver + Nelson if they last for more than a season. Not a tough call.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    B+

    dnc said:

    This might be the best class at UW since Romar landed Pondexter, Nelson, Oliver and Hawes. If Marlon wasn't on the DNF list it would have been up there with that all Asian golf class a few years back.

    We were any one or combination of IPM, Ah Chu, AVT or a Echols type away from it being a front runner.

    The current bball class (if it doesn't fall apart) would cum fiesta all over that class.
    Interesting comp. Porter Jr >>>>>>>>> Hawes, but there's nobody else in the class who will be as good of a player as Pondexter.

    I'd still probably take next year's class, cause it's unlikely we lose the bottom half of it after just one year, but I'd take the 02 class over either of them.
    Porter is better than Hawes. No doubt about it.

    Pondexter was inconsistent before his monster senior year.

    I honestly think Jaylen Nowell can be as good as Q-Pon. He won't have the back to the basket post up game (not the same body type), but his midrange game is already senior year Pondexter level.

    The other pieces are better than Oliver + Nelson if they last for more than a season. Not a tough call.

    Quincy was at worst the second best player in the conference as a senior. I don't see Nowell getting anywhere close to that. I agree he'll probably be better than Quincy as as sophomore, maybe as a junior (Bonecrusher Jr started blowing up the second half of his junior year).
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    D+ or lower
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    This might be the best class at UW since Romar landed Pondexter, Nelson, Oliver and Hawes. If Marlon wasn't on the DNF list it would have been up there with that all Asian golf class a few years back.

    We were any one or combination of IPM, Ah Chu, AVT or a Echols type away from it being a front runner.

    The current bball class (if it doesn't fall apart) would cum fiesta all over that class.
    Interesting comp. Porter Jr >>>>>>>>> Hawes, but there's nobody else in the class who will be as good of a player as Pondexter.

    I'd still probably take next year's class, cause it's unlikely we lose the bottom half of it after just one year, but I'd take the 02 class over either of them.
    Porter is better than Hawes. No doubt about it.

    Pondexter was inconsistent before his monster senior year.

    I honestly think Jaylen Nowell can be as good as Q-Pon. He won't have the back to the basket post up game (not the same body type), but his midrange game is already senior year Pondexter level.

    The other pieces are better than Oliver + Nelson if they last for more than a season. Not a tough call.

    Quincy was at worst the second best player in the conference as a senior. I don't see Nowell getting anywhere close to that. I agree he'll probably be better than Quincy as as sophomore, maybe as a junior (Bonecrusher Jr started blowing up the second half of his junior year).
    Pondexter got robbed for POTY. Straight up. Jerome Randle was shit.

    Nowell won't have the exact same type of game as Q-Pon (SG vs SF), and I don't think he reaches senior year Q-Pon levels (that's a very high bar tbh). But the first 2.5 seasons of Pondexter were less than great.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    B+

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    This might be the best class at UW since Romar landed Pondexter, Nelson, Oliver and Hawes. If Marlon wasn't on the DNF list it would have been up there with that all Asian golf class a few years back.

    We were any one or combination of IPM, Ah Chu, AVT or a Echols type away from it being a front runner.

    The current bball class (if it doesn't fall apart) would cum fiesta all over that class.
    Interesting comp. Porter Jr >>>>>>>>> Hawes, but there's nobody else in the class who will be as good of a player as Pondexter.

    I'd still probably take next year's class, cause it's unlikely we lose the bottom half of it after just one year, but I'd take the 02 class over either of them.
    Porter is better than Hawes. No doubt about it.

    Pondexter was inconsistent before his monster senior year.

    I honestly think Jaylen Nowell can be as good as Q-Pon. He won't have the back to the basket post up game (not the same body type), but his midrange game is already senior year Pondexter level.

    The other pieces are better than Oliver + Nelson if they last for more than a season. Not a tough call.

    Quincy was at worst the second best player in the conference as a senior. I don't see Nowell getting anywhere close to that. I agree he'll probably be better than Quincy as as sophomore, maybe as a junior (Bonecrusher Jr started blowing up the second half of his junior year).
    Pondexter got robbed for POTY. Straight up. Jerome Randle was shit.

    Nowell won't have the exact same type of game as Q-Pon (SG vs SF), and I don't think he reaches senior year Q-Pon levels (that's a very high bar tbh). But the first 2.5 seasons of Pondexter were less than great.
    Agreed on all counts.