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  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,006
    Sledog said:

    No such thing as transgendered people. You are what you were born as. Can't change the DNA. Tired of this BS. Perverted retards are not special nor deserving of special treatment.
    Oh God here we go. Please leave the Republican party and start your own. There is a parting gift at the door.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,006


    Could he be any more tone deaf?
    No.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,006
    edited January 2017
    2001400ex said:

    I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.
    Not anymore. We are in a new world kid. My very first post in this thread comes back to THAT VERY FUCKING POINT.

    After Trump is done fucking things up, with the help of his idiot friends in Congress, there will be a bounce-back house cleaning, and Bernie or someone like him will be elected by a fucking landslide.

    The right had a chance to do its thing and continue to wield some influence. They get the whole party cake now for four years. When they're passed out from a sugar coma the liberals, who've been outside doing push ups, are going to storm back in and do what they do.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 36,862 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2017

    Not anymore. We are in a new world kid. My very first post in this thread comes back to THAT VERY FUCKING POINT.

    After Trump is done fucking things up, with the help of his idiot friends in Congress, there will be a bounce-back house cleaning, and Bernie or someone like him will be elected by a fucking landslide.

    The right had a chance to do its thing and continue to wield some influence. They get the whole party cake now for four years. When they're passed out from a sugar coma the liberals, who've been outside doing push ups, are going to storm back in and do what they do.
    Trump is president because the commies came out of the closet. Won't see the "progressive" dems in control for a long time.
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    HFNY said:

    Hillary won more votes in Dem bastions of Big Government but she obviously didn't win the swing states. The Founders' wisdom predicted that large states and large populations could push around smaller states. The 13 states wouldn't have come together if not for those foundations because they were worried Virginia (the most populated state at the time and 3 out of the first 4 presidents came from VA) would exert undue influence.

    As for the word "Socialist", why don't you think people should be scared of it? Even since the Bolshevik Revolution, tens of millions of people have died from deprivation, starvation, and war initiated by those attempting to infect others with the Red Menace.

    Of course France hasn't started in 147 years but their version of Socialism has led to economic stagnation, declining world influence, and the diminishing of their culture / security due to Muslim immigration and terrorism.

    That's not why the electoral college was created. Citizens didn't even vote for a candidate, they voted for an elector. Congress was actually proportionally distributed back then too. There was no intent in offering higher representation for farmers.

    Take it from Alexander Hamilton:
    "The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
    The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    That's not why the electoral college was created. Citizens didn't even vote for a candidate, they voted for an elector. Congress was actually proportionally distributed back then too. There was no intent in offering higher representation for farmers.

    Take it from Alexander Hamilton:
    "The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
    The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.

    Back then it was about people not being able to have access to the information to choose the right candidate. Now it's about sites like breitbart and news like fox.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,017 Standard Supporter

    You and race. A match made in white trash heaven.
    Uneducated white trash made you it's bitch in November. Maybe you should STFU, Cunt.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,006
    Sledog said:

    Trump is president because the commies came out of the closet. Won't see the "progressive" dems in control for a long time.
    When you wake up from your nap, let me know. I don't even know what you're saying here.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,006

    Uneducated white trash made you it's bitch in November. Maybe you should STFU, Cunt.
    This sounds serious. Get a room maybe?
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,358 Standard Supporter
    My point was that Founders could have made the election based off of the total popular vote rather than the Electoral College. It shouldn't be enough for a candidate to win based off of the states that have big populations (California, New York, Illinois) and thankfully it isn't.

    Trump won 29 states to Hillary's 21 and also won 3,084 of 3,141 counties while Clinton won just 57. So the Electoral College is wonderful because it prevents the Tyranny of the Majority and Presidents from totally ignoring large swaths of the country.

    That's not why the electoral college was created. Citizens didn't even vote for a candidate, they voted for an elector. Congress was actually proportionally distributed back then too. There was no intent in offering higher representation for farmers.

    Take it from Alexander Hamilton:
    "The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
    The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.

  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    HFNY said:

    My point was that Founders could have made the election based off of the total popular vote rather than the Electoral College. It shouldn't be enough for a candidate to win based off of the states that have big populations (California, New York, Illinois) and thankfully it isn't.

    Trump won 29 states to Hillary's 21 and also won 3,084 of 3,141 counties while Clinton won just 57. So the Electoral College is wonderful because it prevents the Tyranny of the Majority and Presidents from totally ignoring large swaths of the country.

    The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.


    And my point is that the founding fathers' intent in the electoral college was preventing the populace from electing a moron, not giving power to lower populated states. That's an incidental result of congress not expanding since 1912.

    Campaigns focus on a handful of swing states and ignore large swaths of the country as it is.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    HFNY said:

    My point was that Founders could have made the election based off of the total popular vote rather than the Electoral College. It shouldn't be enough for a candidate to win based off of the states that have big populations (California, New York, Illinois) and thankfully it isn't.

    Trump won 29 states to Hillary's 21 and also won 3,084 of 3,141 counties while Clinton won just 57. So the Electoral College is wonderful because it prevents the Tyranny of the Majority and Presidents from totally ignoring large swaths of the country.

    The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.

    it was also created as a compromise to protect slave states. but let's not bring that up
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited January 2017
    2001400ex said:

    Um no. You think the political elite can sway millions and millions of votes? You don't think the RNC internal correspondence wasn't the exact same as the DNC? The primary difference was Bernie only had one person to compete with. Trump had 17 so he could win with 35% of the vote.
    when every single democratic politician sans like 1% are endorsing a single candidate and many of the primaries are closed with strict registration rules to suppress the independent and first time voter crowds it makes an impact. along with the debate schedule and everything else listed.

    Enough to change the outcome, probably not, but an impact
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,657 Founders Club
    The RNC was very open about fucking Trump. That's what made the win even more satisfying. You don't need secret emails when your establishment is Never Trump and Romney is public-ally calling him a scum bag

    Hondo's dream of RNC emails is pure bullshit like the rest of his posts
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The RNC was very open about fucking Trump. That's what made the win even more satisfying. You don't need secret emails when your establishment is Never Trump and Romney is public-ally calling him a scum bag

    Hondo's dream of RNC emails is pure bullshit like the rest of his posts

    Oh so they were open about fucking Trump but didn't discuss it over email. OK!

    You are basically saying the wikileaks you keep harping on was the same at the RNC. Except they were open about it.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,006
    2001400ex said:

    Oh so they were open about fucking Trump but didn't discuss it over email. OK!

    You are basically saying the wikileaks you keep harping on was the same at the RNC. Except they were open about it.
    Um you're working too fucking hard. My dog knows that the RNC was scared shitless about the possibility of what actually happened actually happening because they know how fucking stupid 98% of the people in this country are.

    Bernie and Hillary was a completely different scenario…
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    Eh, not so sure.

    Donnie is not a religious fundie. Those dudes are a breed apart and you really need to keep an eye on 'em. They're fucking banana mystics who have more in common with radical Islam than they do w/ me. When you start making policy based on shit you read in a 2,000 year old book or that came to you in a dream, you're a fucking banana.

    That's not Donnie. Donnie was an average kid with average abilities who happened to be born to a father who was hungry, relatively intelligent, hard working and brass balled - and a little lucky. The fact that he attended Wharton is of no relevance - back then it wasn't like it is today - money could buy you into any school, and that's how Donnie got to Penn. If he'd been academically gifted, he'd have gone to Harvard or Princeton or Yale. In those days, Penn was the blue collar school of the Ivy League. Now it's Cornell.

    Back to the point - he's a guy who, as @dnc pointed out, by accident of his birth, is very used to getting whatever he wants, and he is also a guy who doesn't seem to be aware of his own mortality. 70 year old dudes who are still vein and afraid of being bald are just mentally somewhere else. This is not the even-tempered, good judgement man you want in the chair. He's a competitive, immature, somewhat-but-not-super smart, supremely self-indulgent, Brooklyn smart ass who, despite his wealth, age, position and good fortune in life, is still just a little insecure. I have the sense that he was once quite a splash as a decent-looking eligible bachelor among the Manhattan elite, but somehow over time morphed into a clown to those people. I think his ego is still locked in on that 80s time in his life.

    And, we all know he doesn't really know what he's doing. His self-indulgence will make him eat voraciously for a while as this very novel experience keeps him distracted, and that will be ok, because everyone is still in such shock that nothing he does will phase. The protesters will keep on protesting the fact that he's even there, and his supporters will watch and wonder when it's time for them to jump from the train. But they'll all conclude it's too early right now. Eventually, though, Donnie will get bored and start shitting the bed in some way, shape or form. That's when it's going to hit the fan - that's when even the real right wingers will start to scurry from the sinking ship.

    But if you think Donald J. Trump gives two shits about God or abortion, I've got a bridge I want to sell you.
    Penn the blue-collar school of the ivies? Lol it's always been Cornell...
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,006

    Penn the blue-collar school of the ivies? Lol it's always been Cornell...
    Lol. As if you'd know. Who are you trying to kid?
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