Executive orders are constitutional all of the sudden
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huh? it was the conservatives that got butthurt about your supposed non issue and passed a law to prevent in.creepycoug said:
Wrong. This is on the left agenda in the name of tolerance. Just look what happened to North Carolina.2001400ex said:
That's just another example of conservatives making a bigger deal of liberals making a big deal about something than liberals made it in the first place.HFNY said:It's too bad that both parties have moved from the center, especially the Democrats.
Would love to see Trump wrong-foot the gender / reproductive obsessives by not talking about and ultimately not touching Planned Parenthood. I think the bathroom thing is silly and only 0.3% of the population is transgendered.
As for 2016, it's amazing to witness the difference in election talent between two respected competitors (Clinton vs. Dole) compared to 20 years later with Hillary vs. Trump.
We're arguing over something as dumb as where .3% of the population can piss and shit. one party wants to make it an issue and passes laws specifically to stop them. who's the obsessed one again?
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Exactly and look what happened. I thought it was dumb as nomads the law, but I thought it was equally as dumb to boycotted txt then entire fucking state so as to cost he state a huge sum in list business. Who do you think drove that boycott? The KKK?dhdawg said:
huh? it was the conservatives that got butthurt about your supposed non issue and passed a law to prevent in.creepycoug said:
Wrong. This is on the left agenda in the name of tolerance. Just look what happened to North Carolina.2001400ex said:
That's just another example of conservatives making a bigger deal of liberals making a big deal about something than liberals made it in the first place.HFNY said:It's too bad that both parties have moved from the center, especially the Democrats.
Would love to see Trump wrong-foot the gender / reproductive obsessives by not talking about and ultimately not touching Planned Parenthood. I think the bathroom thing is silly and only 0.3% of the population is transgendered.
As for 2016, it's amazing to witness the difference in election talent between two respected competitors (Clinton vs. Dole) compared to 20 years later with Hillary vs. Trump.
We're arguing over something as dumb as where .3% of the population can piss and shit. one party wants to make it an issue and passes laws specifically to stop them. who's the obsessed one again? -
Laws have consequences.creepycoug said:
Exactly and look what happened. I thought it was dumb as nomads the law, but I thought it was equally as dumb to boycotted txt then entire fucking state so as to cost he state a huge sum in list business. Who do you think drove that boycott? The KKK?dhdawg said:
huh? it was the conservatives that got butthurt about your supposed non issue and passed a law to prevent in.creepycoug said:
Wrong. This is on the left agenda in the name of tolerance. Just look what happened to North Carolina.2001400ex said:
That's just another example of conservatives making a bigger deal of liberals making a big deal about something than liberals made it in the first place.HFNY said:It's too bad that both parties have moved from the center, especially the Democrats.
Would love to see Trump wrong-foot the gender / reproductive obsessives by not talking about and ultimately not touching Planned Parenthood. I think the bathroom thing is silly and only 0.3% of the population is transgendered.
As for 2016, it's amazing to witness the difference in election talent between two respected competitors (Clinton vs. Dole) compared to 20 years later with Hillary vs. Trump.
We're arguing over something as dumb as where .3% of the population can piss and shit. one party wants to make it an issue and passes laws specifically to stop them. who's the obsessed one again? -
Free market, bitch.creepycoug said:
Exactly and look what happened. I thought it was dumb as nomads the law, but I thought it was equally as dumb to boycotted txt then entire fucking state so as to cost he state a huge sum in list business. Who do you think drove that boycott? The KKK?dhdawg said:
huh? it was the conservatives that got butthurt about your supposed non issue and passed a law to prevent in.creepycoug said:
Wrong. This is on the left agenda in the name of tolerance. Just look what happened to North Carolina.2001400ex said:
That's just another example of conservatives making a bigger deal of liberals making a big deal about something than liberals made it in the first place.HFNY said:It's too bad that both parties have moved from the center, especially the Democrats.
Would love to see Trump wrong-foot the gender / reproductive obsessives by not talking about and ultimately not touching Planned Parenthood. I think the bathroom thing is silly and only 0.3% of the population is transgendered.
As for 2016, it's amazing to witness the difference in election talent between two respected competitors (Clinton vs. Dole) compared to 20 years later with Hillary vs. Trump.
We're arguing over something as dumb as where .3% of the population can piss and shit. one party wants to make it an issue and passes laws specifically to stop them. who's the obsessed one again?
Or are you arguing for gubmint control over individual business decisions? -
Typos aside I made my point. You guys are veering elsewhere.
The point was in response to the post that the transgender thing is overplay by the conservatives of a liberal value.
The left brought this one to the table and it is a big deal to them. Ask North Carolina. -
No. Transgender people brought this to the table and conservatives freaked the fuck out.creepycoug said:Typos aside I made my point. You guys are veering elsewhere.
The point was in response to the post that the transgender thing is overplay by the conservatives of a liberal value.
The left brought this one to the table and it is a big deal to them. Ask North Carolina. -
Like I said - it was dumb to make it an issue and activate the left over it. I also think it's a dumb issue period.dhdawg said:
huh? it was the conservatives that got butthurt about your supposed non issue and passed a law to prevent in.creepycoug said:
Wrong. This is on the left agenda in the name of tolerance. Just look what happened to North Carolina.2001400ex said:
That's just another example of conservatives making a bigger deal of liberals making a big deal about something than liberals made it in the first place.HFNY said:It's too bad that both parties have moved from the center, especially the Democrats.
Would love to see Trump wrong-foot the gender / reproductive obsessives by not talking about and ultimately not touching Planned Parenthood. I think the bathroom thing is silly and only 0.3% of the population is transgendered.
As for 2016, it's amazing to witness the difference in election talent between two respected competitors (Clinton vs. Dole) compared to 20 years later with Hillary vs. Trump.
We're arguing over something as dumb as where .3% of the population can piss and shit. one party wants to make it an issue and passes laws specifically to stop them. who's the obsessed one again?
Also like I said in the very beginning, the party has been co-opted by fringe fundies and purists. That's the biggest issue. -
First stop on this so called balls deep tour: CIA headquarters to whine about how many people came to the inauguration in front of the 117 memorial stars.Doogles said:I'll maintain Hilary losing and The Donald winning is the best thing that could have happened to this country at this particular time.
The guy is going to go balls deep on the rest of the world and that's not a bad thing. America FIRST.
All the world that has been leaching off our teet and weakening our influence will be put on notice. We've been the gullible grandma willing to blindly write a blank check to our crackhead underlings for way too long.
The left preaches tolerance, but suddenly it's an issue that our President has a positive relationship with Russia. Putin respects trump because he knows that the dude will end him if he fucks around.
Finally a leader that will call a spade a spade, how refreshing.
What a little bitch. -
While also bragging about being on the cover of Time magazine "many times", which I am sure resonates with an audience of spies that often have to protect their identities to serve the country. And get no public acknowledgement or recognition of any kind when they make the ultimate sacrifice.Woof said:
First stop on this so called balls deep tour: CIA headquarters to whine about how many people came to the inauguration in front of the 117 memorial stars.Doogles said:I'll maintain Hilary losing and The Donald winning is the best thing that could have happened to this country at this particular time.
The guy is going to go balls deep on the rest of the world and that's not a bad thing. America FIRST.
All the world that has been leaching off our teet and weakening our influence will be put on notice. We've been the gullible grandma willing to blindly write a blank check to our crackhead underlings for way too long.
The left preaches tolerance, but suddenly it's an issue that our President has a positive relationship with Russia. Putin respects trump because he knows that the dude will end him if he fucks around.
Finally a leader that will call a spade a spade, how refreshing.
What a little bitch.
Could he be any more tone deaf? -
No such thing as transgendered people. You are what you were born as. Can't change the DNA. Tired of this BS. Perverted retards are not special nor deserving of special treatment.2001400ex said:
No. Transgender people brought this to the table and conservatives freaked the fuck out.creepycoug said:Typos aside I made my point. You guys are veering elsewhere.
The point was in response to the post that the transgender thing is overplay by the conservatives of a liberal value.
The left brought this one to the table and it is a big deal to them. Ask North Carolina. -
Spooge and his Thai ladyboys disagree.Sledog said:
No such thing as transgendered people. You are what you were born as. Can't change the DNA. Tired of this BS. Perverted retards are not special nor deserving of special treatment.2001400ex said:
No. Transgender people brought this to the table and conservatives freaked the fuck out.creepycoug said:Typos aside I made my point. You guys are veering elsewhere.
The point was in response to the post that the transgender thing is overplay by the conservatives of a liberal value.
The left brought this one to the table and it is a big deal to them. Ask North Carolina. -
You and race. A match made in white trash heaven.allpurpleallgold said:
First of all, I don't even know who you are but thanks for keeping tabs on my every political decision. It's nice to have fans.CirrhosisDawg said:
While you were away, apag started out as a Bernie bot but following clinton's nomination he went back to his jilted lover race as a trump backer. "Wall Street.!1" "Establishment!1" usual white trash shrieking.creepycoug said:
Not liberal at all? Really?allpurpleallgold said:
She's not liberal at fucking all. Fuck off with this bullshit.creepycoug said:
Mabye - I can agree with all that, and I also agree that she's not the most liberal of liberals - but she's pretty fucking liberal my friend. At least on the big issues.2001400ex said:
Any liberal would tell you that Hillary is not a liberal. She made to many mistakes in the campaign to discuss. And I don't think the rust belt States that elected her were ready for a female president.creepycoug said:
Disagree. If you are a liberal democrat, Hillary is a fine candidate.2001400ex said:The Dems lost because they chose a shit candidate and no good candidate stepped up better than the shit candidate. Trump's win was like when the Rams beat the Browns.
They lost because they mangled the campaign. Period. She is perfectly electable. She's just a shitty showman and she pandered to her party's current "obsession with cultural issues." That and the mangling of the immigration issue is what killed her.
Hey, did someone hit you over the head with something at the women's march today?
You've turned into a dumb faggot.
Second, neither Race nor myself has ever "jilted" the other. It's always been love. -
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand. -
Yeah but Spooge treats them special all by himself. He's not wanting to force everyone else to.ThomasFremont said:
Spooge and his Thai ladyboys disagree.Sledog said:
No such thing as transgendered people. You are what you were born as. Can't change the DNA. Tired of this BS. Perverted retards are not special nor deserving of special treatment.2001400ex said:
No. Transgender people brought this to the table and conservatives freaked the fuck out.creepycoug said:Typos aside I made my point. You guys are veering elsewhere.
The point was in response to the post that the transgender thing is overplay by the conservatives of a liberal value.
The left brought this one to the table and it is a big deal to them. Ask North Carolina. -
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand. -
Hillary won more votes in Dem bastions of Big Government but she obviously didn't win the swing states. The Founders' wisdom predicted that large states and large populations could push around smaller states. The 13 states wouldn't have come together if not for those foundations because they were worried Virginia (the most populated state at the time and 3 out of the first 4 presidents came from VA) would exert undue influence.
As for the word "Socialist", why don't you think people should be scared of it? Even since the Bolshevik Revolution, tens of millions of people have died from deprivation, starvation, and war initiated by those attempting to infect others with the Red Menace.
Of course France hasn't started in 147 years but their version of Socialism has led to economic stagnation, declining world influence, and the diminishing of their culture / security due to Muslim immigration and terrorism.2001400ex said:
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand. -
You're partially right. Crooked Hillary won the democrat playoffs and did so by procuring more regular delegate votes than Crazy Bernie, in addition to the overwhelming majority of superdelegate votes. She won by any measure.2001400ex said:
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
However, the final margin was no doubt influenced by the political elite within the Party of Tolerance. Her win was guaranteed before the first vote was cast, the DNC made sure of that as WikiLeaks exposed, from scheduling debates when no one was watching to wrapping up and gifting her the vast majority of superdelegate votes. The party of RJ Daley and LBJ is alive and well. Gotta love it. -
It sounds like you don't get it either. I'm not on board with free college and other shit Bernie was proposing. That being said, what he was proposing still wasn't socialism like you are referencing. But keep being afraid.HFNY said:Hillary won more votes in Dem bastions of Big Government but she obviously didn't win the swing states. The Founders' wisdom predicted that large states and large populations could push around smaller states. The 13 states wouldn't have come together if not for those foundations because they were worried Virginia (the most populated state at the time and 3 out of the first 4 presidents came from VA) would exert undue influence.
As for the word "Socialist", why don't you think people should be scared of it? Even since the Bolshevik Revolution, tens of millions of people have died from deprivation, starvation, and war initiated by those attempting to infect others with the Red Menace.
Of course France hasn't started in 147 years but their version of Socialism has led to economic stagnation, declining world influence, and the diminishing of their culture / security due to Muslim immigration and terrorism.2001400ex said:
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand. -
No Transgender people brought this to the table, looped in the gay rights crowd, a formidable constituency to the left, and made it matter. It wasn't top of list, but it's on the list.2001400ex said:
No. Transgender people brought this to the table and conservatives freaked the fuck out.creepycoug said:Typos aside I made my point. You guys are veering elsewhere.
The point was in response to the post that the transgender thing is overplay by the conservatives of a liberal value.
The left brought this one to the table and it is a big deal to them. Ask North Carolina.
You're working way too hard here to prove a non-point. -
Um no. You think the political elite can sway millions and millions of votes? You don't think the RNC internal correspondence wasn't the exact same as the DNC? The primary difference was Bernie only had one person to compete with. Trump had 17 so he could win with 35% of the vote.Southerndawg said:
You're partially right. Crooked Hillary won the democrat playoffs and did so by procuring more regular delegate votes than Crazy Bernie, in addition to the overwhelming majority of superdelegate votes. She won by any measure.2001400ex said:
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
However, the final margin was no doubt influenced by the political elite within the Party of Tolerance. Her win was guaranteed before the first vote was cast, the DNC made sure of that as WikiLeaks exposed, from scheduling debates when no one was watching to wrapping up and gifting her the vast majority of superdelegate votes. The party of RJ Daley and LBJ is alive and well. Gotta love it. -
Oh God here we go. Please leave the Republican party and start your own. There is a parting gift at the door.Sledog said:
No such thing as transgendered people. You are what you were born as. Can't change the DNA. Tired of this BS. Perverted retards are not special nor deserving of special treatment.2001400ex said:
No. Transgender people brought this to the table and conservatives freaked the fuck out.creepycoug said:Typos aside I made my point. You guys are veering elsewhere.
The point was in response to the post that the transgender thing is overplay by the conservatives of a liberal value.
The left brought this one to the table and it is a big deal to them. Ask North Carolina. -
No.ThomasFremont said:Woof said:
First stop on this so called balls deep tour: CIA headquarters to whine about how many people came to the inauguration in front of the 117 memorial stars.Doogles said:I'll maintain Hilary losing and The Donald winning is the best thing that could have happened to this country at this particular time.
The guy is going to go balls deep on the rest of the world and that's not a bad thing. America FIRST.
All the world that has been leaching off our teet and weakening our influence will be put on notice. We've been the gullible grandma willing to blindly write a blank check to our crackhead underlings for way too long.
The left preaches tolerance, but suddenly it's an issue that our President has a positive relationship with Russia. Putin respects trump because he knows that the dude will end him if he fucks around.
Finally a leader that will call a spade a spade, how refreshing.
What a little bitch.
Could he be any more tone deaf? -
Not anymore. We are in a new world kid. My very first post in this thread comes back to THAT VERY FUCKING POINT.2001400ex said:
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
After Trump is done fucking things up, with the help of his idiot friends in Congress, there will be a bounce-back house cleaning, and Bernie or someone like him will be elected by a fucking landslide.
The right had a chance to do its thing and continue to wield some influence. They get the whole party cake now for four years. When they're passed out from a sugar coma the liberals, who've been outside doing push ups, are going to storm back in and do what they do. -
Trump is president because the commies came out of the closet. Won't see the "progressive" dems in control for a long time.creepycoug said:
Not anymore. We are in a new world kid. My very first post in this thread comes back to THAT VERY FUCKING POINT.2001400ex said:
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
After Trump is done fucking things up, with the help of his idiot friends in Congress, there will be a bounce-back house cleaning, and Bernie or someone like him will be elected by a fucking landslide.
The right had a chance to do its thing and continue to wield some influence. They get the whole party cake now for four years. When they're passed out from a sugar coma the liberals, who've been outside doing push ups, are going to storm back in and do what they do. -
That's not why the electoral college was created. Citizens didn't even vote for a candidate, they voted for an elector. Congress was actually proportionally distributed back then too. There was no intent in offering higher representation for farmers.HFNY said:Hillary won more votes in Dem bastions of Big Government but she obviously didn't win the swing states. The Founders' wisdom predicted that large states and large populations could push around smaller states. The 13 states wouldn't have come together if not for those foundations because they were worried Virginia (the most populated state at the time and 3 out of the first 4 presidents came from VA) would exert undue influence.
As for the word "Socialist", why don't you think people should be scared of it? Even since the Bolshevik Revolution, tens of millions of people have died from deprivation, starvation, and war initiated by those attempting to infect others with the Red Menace.
Of course France hasn't started in 147 years but their version of Socialism has led to economic stagnation, declining world influence, and the diminishing of their culture / security due to Muslim immigration and terrorism.2001400ex said:
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
Take it from Alexander Hamilton:"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops. -
The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.UWhuskytskeet said:
That's not why the electoral college was created. Citizens didn't even vote for a candidate, they voted for an elector. Congress was actually proportionally distributed back then too. There was no intent in offering higher representation for farmers.HFNY said:Hillary won more votes in Dem bastions of Big Government but she obviously didn't win the swing states. The Founders' wisdom predicted that large states and large populations could push around smaller states. The 13 states wouldn't have come together if not for those foundations because they were worried Virginia (the most populated state at the time and 3 out of the first 4 presidents came from VA) would exert undue influence.
As for the word "Socialist", why don't you think people should be scared of it? Even since the Bolshevik Revolution, tens of millions of people have died from deprivation, starvation, and war initiated by those attempting to infect others with the Red Menace.
Of course France hasn't started in 147 years but their version of Socialism has led to economic stagnation, declining world influence, and the diminishing of their culture / security due to Muslim immigration and terrorism.2001400ex said:
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
Take it from Alexander Hamilton:"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
Back then it was about people not being able to have access to the information to choose the right candidate. Now it's about sites like breitbart and news like fox. -
Uneducated white trash made you it's bitch in November. Maybe you should STFU, Cunt.CirrhosisDawg said:
You and race. A match made in white trash heaven.allpurpleallgold said:
First of all, I don't even know who you are but thanks for keeping tabs on my every political decision. It's nice to have fans.CirrhosisDawg said:
While you were away, apag started out as a Bernie bot but following clinton's nomination he went back to his jilted lover race as a trump backer. "Wall Street.!1" "Establishment!1" usual white trash shrieking.creepycoug said:
Not liberal at all? Really?allpurpleallgold said:
She's not liberal at fucking all. Fuck off with this bullshit.creepycoug said:
Mabye - I can agree with all that, and I also agree that she's not the most liberal of liberals - but she's pretty fucking liberal my friend. At least on the big issues.2001400ex said:
Any liberal would tell you that Hillary is not a liberal. She made to many mistakes in the campaign to discuss. And I don't think the rust belt States that elected her were ready for a female president.creepycoug said:
Disagree. If you are a liberal democrat, Hillary is a fine candidate.2001400ex said:The Dems lost because they chose a shit candidate and no good candidate stepped up better than the shit candidate. Trump's win was like when the Rams beat the Browns.
They lost because they mangled the campaign. Period. She is perfectly electable. She's just a shitty showman and she pandered to her party's current "obsession with cultural issues." That and the mangling of the immigration issue is what killed her.
Hey, did someone hit you over the head with something at the women's march today?
You've turned into a dumb faggot.
Second, neither Race nor myself has ever "jilted" the other. It's always been love. -
When you wake up from your nap, let me know. I don't even know what you're saying here.Sledog said:
Trump is president because the commies came out of the closet. Won't see the "progressive" dems in control for a long time.creepycoug said:
Not anymore. We are in a new world kid. My very first post in this thread comes back to THAT VERY FUCKING POINT.2001400ex said:
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
After Trump is done fucking things up, with the help of his idiot friends in Congress, there will be a bounce-back house cleaning, and Bernie or someone like him will be elected by a fucking landslide.
The right had a chance to do its thing and continue to wield some influence. They get the whole party cake now for four years. When they're passed out from a sugar coma the liberals, who've been outside doing push ups, are going to storm back in and do what they do. -
This sounds serious. Get a room maybe?TurdBuffer said:
Uneducated white trash made you it's bitch in November. Maybe you should STFU, Cunt.CirrhosisDawg said:
You and race. A match made in white trash heaven.allpurpleallgold said:
First of all, I don't even know who you are but thanks for keeping tabs on my every political decision. It's nice to have fans.CirrhosisDawg said:
While you were away, apag started out as a Bernie bot but following clinton's nomination he went back to his jilted lover race as a trump backer. "Wall Street.!1" "Establishment!1" usual white trash shrieking.creepycoug said:
Not liberal at all? Really?allpurpleallgold said:
She's not liberal at fucking all. Fuck off with this bullshit.creepycoug said:
Mabye - I can agree with all that, and I also agree that she's not the most liberal of liberals - but she's pretty fucking liberal my friend. At least on the big issues.2001400ex said:
Any liberal would tell you that Hillary is not a liberal. She made to many mistakes in the campaign to discuss. And I don't think the rust belt States that elected her were ready for a female president.creepycoug said:
Disagree. If you are a liberal democrat, Hillary is a fine candidate.2001400ex said:The Dems lost because they chose a shit candidate and no good candidate stepped up better than the shit candidate. Trump's win was like when the Rams beat the Browns.
They lost because they mangled the campaign. Period. She is perfectly electable. She's just a shitty showman and she pandered to her party's current "obsession with cultural issues." That and the mangling of the immigration issue is what killed her.
Hey, did someone hit you over the head with something at the women's march today?
You've turned into a dumb faggot.
Second, neither Race nor myself has ever "jilted" the other. It's always been love. -
My point was that Founders could have made the election based off of the total popular vote rather than the Electoral College. It shouldn't be enough for a candidate to win based off of the states that have big populations (California, New York, Illinois) and thankfully it isn't.
Trump won 29 states to Hillary's 21 and also won 3,084 of 3,141 counties while Clinton won just 57. So the Electoral College is wonderful because it prevents the Tyranny of the Majority and Presidents from totally ignoring large swaths of the country.
The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.UWhuskytskeet said:
That's not why the electoral college was created. Citizens didn't even vote for a candidate, they voted for an elector. Congress was actually proportionally distributed back then too. There was no intent in offering higher representation for farmers.HFNY said:Hillary won more votes in Dem bastions of Big Government but she obviously didn't win the swing states. The Founders' wisdom predicted that large states and large populations could push around smaller states. The 13 states wouldn't have come together if not for those foundations because they were worried Virginia (the most populated state at the time and 3 out of the first 4 presidents came from VA) would exert undue influence.
As for the word "Socialist", why don't you think people should be scared of it? Even since the Bolshevik Revolution, tens of millions of people have died from deprivation, starvation, and war initiated by those attempting to infect others with the Red Menace.
Of course France hasn't started in 147 years but their version of Socialism has led to economic stagnation, declining world influence, and the diminishing of their culture / security due to Muslim immigration and terrorism.2001400ex said:
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.dhdawg said:There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
Take it from Alexander Hamilton:"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
