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Which means quick decisions and quick passes, not holding the ball for 4 seconds on RPO's that go nowhere. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! I fucking hate SMIFF!!!!Tequilla said:Our OL was double teaming a lot in problem areas ... that's what we had to do to protect
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Agree. Hopefully getting called out in the National Media pisses these guys off enough to do something about it. A daily reminder for the next year might help stoke the fire.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The UW offense WAS soft.Southerndawg said:
Victor and Mathis being out was the difference in containing Alabama's running game. The linebacking corp is thin, Victor and Mathis are the best on that unit by far, easily two of the best players on the team. That said, the D-Line more than held it's own and the secondary had a good game. In the end, the defense played well enough to win that game. The offense was the problem, same as it was against USC. That needs to be fixed pronto.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Victor and Mathis stop that play... so how far off of elite is this team, starting a true lightly recruited frosh on the line. Fozzy and AVT start day onewhlinder said:That 3rd down and Browning's pick 6 were the two most important plays of the game.
It happened right in front of me and I caught a photo of it as it developed.
Was so mad we gave up that first down.
I'm also hoping those "UW players were soft" comments made by Alabama will be pinned in the locker room for the entire 2017 calendar year. Hopefully there will be a rematch and enough fire in their bellies to go out and, win or lose, physically fuck up Bama, end their fucking season right then and there. Okay, I feel better now. -
So when the DBs are squatting on those underneath routes taking them away from you then what?TurdBuffer said:
Which means quick decisions and quick passes, not holding the ball for 4 seconds on RPO's that go nowhere. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! I fucking hate SMIFF!!!!Tequilla said:Our OL was double teaming a lot in problem areas ... that's what we had to do to protect
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Chuck it deep.Tequilla said:
So when the DBs are squatting on those underneath routes taking them away from you then what?TurdBuffer said:
Which means quick decisions and quick passes, not holding the ball for 4 seconds on RPO's that go nowhere. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! I fucking hate SMIFF!!!!Tequilla said:Our OL was double teaming a lot in problem areas ... that's what we had to do to protect
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There are multiple options in that case Tequila. Besides throwing a pick 6, the QB can tuck & run, have his RB leak out on a wheel route, throw over the top, target a Tight End for once in our OC's life, and several other options. And squatting on the short routes does not eliminate them. LBs have to react and it's way fucking easier to react and cover when the QB holds the ball for 4 seconds instead of 2. Apparently you never saw Mark Bruener, Paul Skanski, Steve Largent or Todd Christianson play. All were excellent at getting open on short routes when their QB was under massive pressure. It's called being aggressive. Jake stands still like a tree as the pocket is collapsing, then pulls the ball back and tries to weave his way through the LOS, usually resulting on no gain or a sack, against good defenses.Tequilla said:
So when the DBs are squatting on those underneath routes taking them away from you then what?TurdBuffer said:
Which means quick decisions and quick passes, not holding the ball for 4 seconds on RPO's that go nowhere. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! I fucking hate SMIFF!!!!Tequilla said:Our OL was double teaming a lot in problem areas ... that's what we had to do to protect
Your argument seems to be this: UW can't do anything but lose against a good D that covers well. -
And when they have 2 safeties playing over the top?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Chuck it deep.Tequilla said:
So when the DBs are squatting on those underneath routes taking them away from you then what?TurdBuffer said:
Which means quick decisions and quick passes, not holding the ball for 4 seconds on RPO's that go nowhere. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! I fucking hate SMIFF!!!!Tequilla said:Our OL was double teaming a lot in problem areas ... that's what we had to do to protect
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Again, your argument seems to be this: UW can't do anything but lose against a good D that covers well.Tequilla said:
And when they have 2 safeties playing over the top?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Chuck it deep.Tequilla said:
So when the DBs are squatting on those underneath routes taking them away from you then what?TurdBuffer said:
Which means quick decisions and quick passes, not holding the ball for 4 seconds on RPO's that go nowhere. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! I fucking hate SMIFF!!!!Tequilla said:Our OL was double teaming a lot in problem areas ... that's what we had to do to protect
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There are limitations of what we can do given our personnel against good teams ... play calling could be better but that by itself does not fix the issuesTurdBuffer said:
Again, your argument seems to be this: UW can't do anything but lose against a good D that covers well.Tequilla said:
And when they have 2 safeties playing over the top?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Chuck it deep.Tequilla said:
So when the DBs are squatting on those underneath routes taking them away from you then what?TurdBuffer said:
Which means quick decisions and quick passes, not holding the ball for 4 seconds on RPO's that go nowhere. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! I fucking hate SMIFF!!!!Tequilla said:Our OL was double teaming a lot in problem areas ... that's what we had to do to protect
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Teq: We've had this discussion a million times. Of course it isn't JUST the play calling and players aren't interchangeable widgets that always work just like they're "designed" to work. Play calling and personnel are not mutually exclusive factors when designing an offense. We've seen Jake make excellent throws up to about 35 yards, and not a single great throw beyond that distance, even though Ross and Pettis slowed up or stopped and out-leaped a defender to make great catches on 40+ throws. The problem with our play calling, specifically, is that Smiff "holes-up" with the passing game when things are getting rough, instead of pounding the rock, and that makes our offense one-dimensional and less effective. Why aren't you asking this question: "If bama adjusted to shut down our passing game, why did we force the issue and abandon the run?" Surrendering one-half of the offense sure as hell didn't fill the need, but so goes Smiffy. As I've contended here many times, I believe he's over his head in the Pac12 and pathologically cursed as a former over-achieving OSU QB. He can't adjust enough to fix the problem and fill the needs of his team and personnel. He forces the passing game and it collapses the offense. Against GOOD defenses, of course.Tequilla said:
There are limitations of what we can do given our personnel against good teams ... play calling could be better but that by itself does not fix the issuesTurdBuffer said:
Again, your argument seems to be this: UW can't do anything but lose against a good D that covers well.Tequilla said:
And when they have 2 safeties playing over the top?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Chuck it deep.Tequilla said:
So when the DBs are squatting on those underneath routes taking them away from you then what?TurdBuffer said:
Which means quick decisions and quick passes, not holding the ball for 4 seconds on RPO's that go nowhere. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! I fucking hate SMIFF!!!!Tequilla said:Our OL was double teaming a lot in problem areas ... that's what we had to do to protect
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That is so fucking hot it makes me wish I wasn't hetero...Tequilla said:
...stare at your signed personalized Chip Kelly in a speedo...
Is there some kind of Tranny Transformation Training I could undergo ? -
We couldn't run the ball against Alabama except when they were in prevent ... we did switch to the run against Colorado effectively
I'm not advocating for Smith to be retained ... but I do think he will be OC in 2017
I do think that depending how recruiting plays out to signing day that the seat for Chris Strausser should be RED HOT -
Yea I hate the significant improvement in our offensive line over the past couple of years.Tequilla said:We couldn't run the ball against Alabama except when they were in prevent ... we did switch to the run against Colorado effectively
I'm not advocating for Smith to be retained ... but I do think he will be OC in 2017
I do think that depending how recruiting plays out to signing day that the seat for Chris Strausser should be RED HOT -
Watched it a few times. No doubt in my mind if Victor is playing he makes the play. Bama punts from their endzone.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Victor and Mathis stop that play... so how far off of elite is this team, starting a true lightly recruited frosh on the line. Fozzy and AVT start day onewhlinder said:That 3rd down and Browning's pick 6 were the two most important plays of the game.
It happened right in front of me and I caught a photo of it as it developed.
Was so mad we gave up that first down. -
Missing the point by a mileCuntWaffle said:
Yea I hate the significant improvement in our offensive line over the past couple of years.Tequilla said:We couldn't run the ball against Alabama except when they were in prevent ... we did switch to the run against Colorado effectively
I'm not advocating for Smith to be retained ... but I do think he will be OC in 2017
I do think that depending how recruiting plays out to signing day that the seat for Chris Strausser should be RED HOT -
Do you agree or disagree our line has improved since Petersen first got here?Tequilla said:
Missing the point by a mileCuntWaffle said:
Yea I hate the significant improvement in our offensive line over the past couple of years.Tequilla said:We couldn't run the ball against Alabama except when they were in prevent ... we did switch to the run against Colorado effectively
I'm not advocating for Smith to be retained ... but I do think he will be OC in 2017
I do think that depending how recruiting plays out to signing day that the seat for Chris Strausser should be RED HOT -
I believe I've said numerous times that Strausser is a good coach as our players get better ...CuntWaffle said:
Do you agree or disagree our line has improved since Petersen first got here?Tequilla said:
Missing the point by a mileCuntWaffle said:
Yea I hate the significant improvement in our offensive line over the past couple of years.Tequilla said:We couldn't run the ball against Alabama except when they were in prevent ... we did switch to the run against Colorado effectively
I'm not advocating for Smith to be retained ... but I do think he will be OC in 2017
I do think that depending how recruiting plays out to signing day that the seat for Chris Strausser should be RED HOT
But this isn't about Strausser the coach ... IF we strike out on high level OL in this class the question has to be asked why we are missing on so many ...
And before somebody throws out Henry B ... he is a very good OL prospect that we need to be looking at getting at least 3 of that caliber in EVERY OL class if we want to compete at a national level ...
We learned yesterday that our OL isn't good enough at this level ... what are we going to do about it going forward? -
Fire BabushkaTequilla said:
I believe I've said numerous times that Strausser is a good coach as our players get better ...CuntWaffle said:
Do you agree or disagree our line has improved since Petersen first got here?Tequilla said:
Missing the point by a mileCuntWaffle said:
Yea I hate the significant improvement in our offensive line over the past couple of years.Tequilla said:We couldn't run the ball against Alabama except when they were in prevent ... we did switch to the run against Colorado effectively
I'm not advocating for Smith to be retained ... but I do think he will be OC in 2017
I do think that depending how recruiting plays out to signing day that the seat for Chris Strausser should be RED HOT
But this isn't about Strausser the coach ... IF we strike out on high level OL in this class the question has to be asked why we are missing on so many ...
And before somebody throws out Henry B ... he is a very good OL prospect that we need to be looking at getting at least 3 of that caliber in EVERY OL class if we want to compete at a national level ...
We learned yesterday that our OL isn't good enough at this level ... what are we going to do about it going forward? -
Ja or nein?Tequilla said:
I believe I've said numerous times that Strausser is a good coach as our players get better ...CuntWaffle said:
Do you agree or disagree our line has improved since Petersen first got here?Tequilla said:
Missing the point by a mileCuntWaffle said:
Yea I hate the significant improvement in our offensive line over the past couple of years.Tequilla said:We couldn't run the ball against Alabama except when they were in prevent ... we did switch to the run against Colorado effectively
I'm not advocating for Smith to be retained ... but I do think he will be OC in 2017
I do think that depending how recruiting plays out to signing day that the seat for Chris Strausser should be RED HOT
But this isn't about Strausser the coach ... IF we strike out on high level OL in this class the question has to be asked why we are missing on so many ...
And before somebody throws out Henry B ... he is a very good OL prospect that we need to be looking at getting at least 3 of that caliber in EVERY OL class if we want to compete at a national level ...
We learned yesterday that our OL isn't good enough at this level ... what are we going to do about it going forward? -
So coaches recruit by position, not geographic area ?Tequilla said:
I believe I've said numerous times that Strausser is a good coach as our players get better ...CuntWaffle said:
Do you agree or disagree our line has improved since Petersen first got here?Tequilla said:
Missing the point by a mileCuntWaffle said:
Yea I hate the significant improvement in our offensive line over the past couple of years.Tequilla said:We couldn't run the ball against Alabama except when they were in prevent ... we did switch to the run against Colorado effectively
I'm not advocating for Smith to be retained ... but I do think he will be OC in 2017
I do think that depending how recruiting plays out to signing day that the seat for Chris Strausser should be RED HOT
But this isn't about Strausser the coach ... IF we strike out on high level OL in this class the question has to be asked why we are missing on so many ...
And before somebody throws out Henry B ... he is a very good OL prospect that we need to be looking at getting at least 3 of that caliber in EVERY OL class if we want to compete at a national level ...
We learned yesterday that our OL isn't good enough at this level ... what are we going to do about it going forward?
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We thought they were going to suck entering the year. They ended up good. Let's fire the coach though.Tequilla said:
I believe I've said numerous times that Strausser is a good coach as our players get better ...CuntWaffle said:
Do you agree or disagree our line has improved since Petersen first got here?Tequilla said:
Missing the point by a mileCuntWaffle said:
Yea I hate the significant improvement in our offensive line over the past couple of years.Tequilla said:We couldn't run the ball against Alabama except when they were in prevent ... we did switch to the run against Colorado effectively
I'm not advocating for Smith to be retained ... but I do think he will be OC in 2017
I do think that depending how recruiting plays out to signing day that the seat for Chris Strausser should be RED HOT
But this isn't about Strausser the coach ... IF we strike out on high level OL in this class the question has to be asked why we are missing on so many ...
And before somebody throws out Henry B ... he is a very good OL prospect that we need to be looking at getting at least 3 of that caliber in EVERY OL class if we want to compete at a national level ...
We learned yesterday that our OL isn't good enough at this level ... what are we going to do about it going forward?
I will repeat again. 4 starters return. A bunch of young guys in the mix. Guys are developing. The OL will be fine. Not Kim in 2012 fine, but fine as in, they will be good. Don't be so FS because they were outclassed by Alabama and some first round picks.
Should we fire Bush too because his WR's couldn't get open? -
Maybe you thought the OL was going to suck ... I had this team 12-2 preseason so perhaps I didn't share the same viewRoadDawg55 said:
We thought they were going to suck entering the year. They ended up good. Let's fire the coach though.Tequilla said:
I believe I've said numerous times that Strausser is a good coach as our players get better ...CuntWaffle said:
Do you agree or disagree our line has improved since Petersen first got here?Tequilla said:
Missing the point by a mileCuntWaffle said:
Yea I hate the significant improvement in our offensive line over the past couple of years.Tequilla said:We couldn't run the ball against Alabama except when they were in prevent ... we did switch to the run against Colorado effectively
I'm not advocating for Smith to be retained ... but I do think he will be OC in 2017
I do think that depending how recruiting plays out to signing day that the seat for Chris Strausser should be RED HOT
But this isn't about Strausser the coach ... IF we strike out on high level OL in this class the question has to be asked why we are missing on so many ...
And before somebody throws out Henry B ... he is a very good OL prospect that we need to be looking at getting at least 3 of that caliber in EVERY OL class if we want to compete at a national level ...
We learned yesterday that our OL isn't good enough at this level ... what are we going to do about it going forward?
I will repeat again. 4 starters return. A bunch of young guys in the mix. Guys are developing. The OL will be fine. Not Kim in 2012 fine, but fine as in, they will be good. Don't be so FS because they were outclassed by Alabama and some first round picks.
Should we fire Bush too because his WR's couldn't get open?
I've gotten in fights on the pod with DDY and Pepsi on this topic defending Strausser the coach at the expense of letting it play out this year on the field and in recruiting
The Good: the OL had a great year and won the conference
The Bad: in the two games against elite DL the OL struggled mightily particularly in creating a running game
It is all about getting higher end talent at this point and coaching them up from there ... that's the elite level. What we have right now isn't at the elite level. The expectations must be raised -
With a 12-2 season and a closer-than-the-score-indicates semi-final game before a national audience, UW greatly increased it's recruiting potential going forward, and Pete's recruiting power as a coach and leader of a rising program shot skyward. We should all have vertical dicks about that for at least a few more days.
The impact is this: More good players will want to come to UW than before, versus UW having to work twice as hard to sell the program based on promises. The evidence and proof are in place. The Conference Trophy is in the case. And UW, while not *elite* yet, looks like a perennial contender for the top spot in the Pac12 and being in the playoff conversation, especially when it goes to an 8 team format, which is inevitable.
This is where DJ had the program in the 80's and 90's, and what lead to the 3 year run of dominance from 90-92.
Needs are about to bet met like mother-fuckers as long as Pete keeps the program headed in the direction he has it going now. I hate to give Pup any props, but he's right that this year exceeded expectations, even though half of that was due to Stanford, USC and Oregon shitting the bed early on. This year we closed out road wins unlike we've seen in a decade, ended the streak, beat the living fuck out of the tree geeks, and ass-raped the cuogs for the trifecta. Ending on a sour note should not lead fans and HCH degenerates to overlook the obvious and substantial progress we saw this year. Depth precedes elitism, and the program is still building depth, but for the first time in a very long fucking time, UW is a presumptive contender in the Pac12 each year under Pete, which means way more reasons to drink and fuck every Saturday, instead of having the shitty taste of losing in my mouth, week after week.
Fuck it all. I'm going to enjoy this 12-2 season I didn't see coming. -
Sounds like you took a walk and got some perspective.TurdBuffer said:With a 12-2 season and a closer-than-the-score-indicates semi-final game before a national audience, UW greatly increased it's recruiting potential going forward, and Pete's recruiting power as a coach and leader of a rising program shot skyward. We should all have vertical dicks about that for at least a few more days.
The impact is this: More good players will want to come to UW than before, versus UW having to work twice as hard to sell the program based on promises. The evidence and proof are in place. The Conference Trophy is in the case. And UW, while not *elite* yet, looks like a perennial contender for the top spot in the Pac12 and being in the playoff conversation, especially when it goes to an 8 team format, which is inevitable.
This is where DJ had the program in the 80's and 90's, and what lead to the 3 year run of dominance from 90-92.
Needs are about to bet met like mother-fuckers as long as Pete keeps the program headed in the direction he has it going now. I hate to give Pup any props, but he's right that this year exceeded expectations, even though half of that was due to Stanford, USC and Oregon shitting the bed early on. This year we closed out road wins unlike we've seen in a decade, ended the streak, beat the living fuck out of the tree geeks, and ass-raped the cuogs for the trifecta. Ending on a sour note should not lead fans and HCH degenerates to overlook the obvious and substantial progress we saw this year. Depth precedes elitism, and the program is still building depth, but for the first time in a very long fucking time, UW is a presumptive contender in the Pac12 each year under Pete, which means way more reasons to drink and fuck every Saturday, instead of having the shitty taste of losing in my mouth, week after week.
Fuck it all. I'm going to enjoy this 12-2 season I didn't see coming.
