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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,424 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    Throwing into the flat is always risky when a blitz is coming. That throw gets picked all the time, or at least gets the RB murdered 4 yards behind the LOS.

    We all saw Jake Locker beat the blitz dozens of times with a quick slant throw. I haven't seen Browning do it once, all year long. So, fuck our fucking OC. It's on that POS as much as Jake.

    I repeat: Smiff is fucking ruining Jake Browning, right before our eyes.

    I did notice a lot of our pass plays were long developing. Very few safe throws to the TE, slants, drags, short curls.
    TEs were kept in to block ...

    Slants are dangerous and difficult against defenses that are playing inside leverage with LBs looking to undercut those routes ...

    Drags are even longer developing than slants and face the same challenges ... they are great against zones but not great against man coverage when the guys you are trying to get the ball to on the drag are getting doubled ...

    Curls may be the worst idea since the CB is taking away the inside release and then playing under the rest of the route ... they tried a few of those throws to Ross and most were closer to being picked off than completed.
    I don't even know where to begin. You know very little about football. Way to cherry pick everything to fit your narrative of why each type of throw would be bad.

    The slants were dangerous but every one of them was forced to Ross.

    Not every curl has to be a long throw to the outside.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    That play is a missed assignment. The protection call was wrong or someone simply didn't pick up the blitzing linebacker.

    The overall point is valid, but that play has nothing to do with size.

    I think the reference was to a play
    earlier in the game in which Allen
    absolutely rag dolled Harris. I mean
    he threw him aside like he was a 20
    lb sack of potatoes. Great experience
    for Harris to play against that kind of caliber
    though. All conference potential at center
    in a couple of years.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,232

    Tequilla said:

    Throwing into the flat is always risky when a blitz is coming. That throw gets picked all the time, or at least gets the RB murdered 4 yards behind the LOS.

    We all saw Jake Locker beat the blitz dozens of times with a quick slant throw. I haven't seen Browning do it once, all year long. So, fuck our fucking OC. It's on that POS as much as Jake.

    I repeat: Smiff is fucking ruining Jake Browning, right before our eyes.

    I did notice a lot of our pass plays were long developing. Very few safe throws to the TE, slants, drags, short curls.
    TEs were kept in to block ...

    Slants are dangerous and difficult against defenses that are playing inside leverage with LBs looking to undercut those routes ...

    Drags are even longer developing than slants and face the same challenges ... they are great against zones but not great against man coverage when the guys you are trying to get the ball to on the drag are getting doubled ...

    Curls may be the worst idea since the CB is taking away the inside release and then playing under the rest of the route ... they tried a few of those throws to Ross and most were closer to being picked off than completed.
    I don't even know where to begin. You know very little about football. Way to cherry pick everything to fit your narrative of why each type of throw would be bad.

    The slants were dangerous but every one of them was forced to Ross.

    Not every curl has to be a long throw to the outside.
    Doog Comeback Narrative: You don't know anything about football ...

    Ranks right up there with "you never played football" ...

    Congratulations on that fucktard ...

  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,379
    Sedici said:

    Sedici said:

    Sedici said:

    Weight wise size is fine but they look fat and out of shape compared to Bama.

    Did you watch the game? Our RG is 6"1 and weighs about 260 pounds. How is that size and weigh fine by your standards?

    Sedici said:

    Weight wise size is fine but they look fat and out of shape compared to Bama.

    Did you watch the game? Our RG is 6"1 and weighs about 260 pounds. How is that size and weigh fine by your standards?
    Yeah I was actually at the game. I was trying to be nice. Bama just has more usable weight. They have best strength and conditioning coach in the country.
    You are a fucking moron.

    It's rare bodies and ROIDS you dumbshit.
    Roids? Yeah ok. I agree the caliber players recruited at Bama are genetic freaks but saying roids, that's what smaller inferior people say.
    We are inferior small people. Smart, small inferior people take roads and become superior big people. Thats what Dawgs do.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited January 2017
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    You also have our former head coach calling your plays in the title game. He's the guy that fucked up recruiting so badly we were stuck starting an 18 year old 270 pound guard.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,232
    doogie said:

    whuggy said:

    That play is a missed assignment. The protection call was wrong or someone simply didn't pick up the blitzing linebacker.

    The overall point is valid, but that play has nothing to do with size.

    I think the reference was to a play
    earlier in the game in which Allen
    absolutely rag dolled Harris. I mean
    he threw him aside like he was a 20
    lb sack of potatoes. Great experience
    for Harris to play against that kind of caliber
    though. All conference potential at center
    in a couple of years.
    Sedici said:

    Sedici said:

    Weight wise size is fine but they look fat and out of shape compared to Bama.

    Did you watch the game? Our RG is 6"1 and weighs about 260 pounds. How is that size and weigh fine by your standards?

    Sedici said:

    Weight wise size is fine but they look fat and out of shape compared to Bama.

    Did you watch the game? Our RG is 6"1 and weighs about 260 pounds. How is that size and weigh fine by your standards?
    Yeah I was actually at the game. I was trying to be nice. Bama just has more usable weight. They have best strength and conditioning coach in the country.
    You also have our former head coach calling your plays in the title game. He's the guy that fucked up recruiting so badly we were stuck starting an 18 year old 270 pound guard.
    This is year 3 for Pete ... starting an 18 year old 270 pound guard is on him ...

    Starting Miley Cyrus in Year 1 ... that's on Sark.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,424 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2017
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Throwing into the flat is always risky when a blitz is coming. That throw gets picked all the time, or at least gets the RB murdered 4 yards behind the LOS.

    We all saw Jake Locker beat the blitz dozens of times with a quick slant throw. I haven't seen Browning do it once, all year long. So, fuck our fucking OC. It's on that POS as much as Jake.

    I repeat: Smiff is fucking ruining Jake Browning, right before our eyes.

    I did notice a lot of our pass plays were long developing. Very few safe throws to the TE, slants, drags, short curls.
    TEs were kept in to block ...

    Slants are dangerous and difficult against defenses that are playing inside leverage with LBs looking to undercut those routes ...

    Drags are even longer developing than slants and face the same challenges ... they are great against zones but not great against man coverage when the guys you are trying to get the ball to on the drag are getting doubled ...

    Curls may be the worst idea since the CB is taking away the inside release and then playing under the rest of the route ... they tried a few of those throws to Ross and most were closer to being picked off than completed.
    I don't even know where to begin. You know very little about football. Way to cherry pick everything to fit your narrative of why each type of throw would be bad.

    The slants were dangerous but every one of them was forced to Ross.

    Not every curl has to be a long throw to the outside.
    Doog Comeback Narrative: You don't know anything about football ...

    Ranks right up there with "you never played football" ...

    Congratulations on that fucktard ...

    You don't though. A "drag" is a route often meant to be used against man coverage. You saying otherwise was a big red flag. You find gaps in zones. Water is wet.

    Sorry to go High Millen on you, but your analysis sucks.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,379
    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    whuggy said:

    That play is a missed assignment. The protection call was wrong or someone simply didn't pick up the blitzing linebacker.

    The overall point is valid, but that play has nothing to do with size.

    I think the reference was to a play
    earlier in the game in which Allen
    absolutely rag dolled Harris. I mean
    he threw him aside like he was a 20
    lb sack of potatoes. Great experience
    for Harris to play against that kind of caliber
    though. All conference potential at center
    in a couple of years.
    Sedici said:

    Sedici said:

    Weight wise size is fine but they look fat and out of shape compared to Bama.

    Did you watch the game? Our RG is 6"1 and weighs about 260 pounds. How is that size and weigh fine by your standards?

    Sedici said:

    Weight wise size is fine but they look fat and out of shape compared to Bama.

    Did you watch the game? Our RG is 6"1 and weighs about 260 pounds. How is that size and weigh fine by your standards?
    Yeah I was actually at the game. I was trying to be nice. Bama just has more usable weight. They have best strength and conditioning coach in the country.
    You also have our former head coach calling your plays in the title game. He's the guy that fucked up recruiting so badly we were stuck starting an 18 year old 270 pound guard.
    This is year 3 for Pete ... starting an 18 year old 270 pound guard is on him ...

    Starting Miley Cyrus in Year 1 ... that's on Sark.
    Alternatives?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,232

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Throwing into the flat is always risky when a blitz is coming. That throw gets picked all the time, or at least gets the RB murdered 4 yards behind the LOS.

    We all saw Jake Locker beat the blitz dozens of times with a quick slant throw. I haven't seen Browning do it once, all year long. So, fuck our fucking OC. It's on that POS as much as Jake.

    I repeat: Smiff is fucking ruining Jake Browning, right before our eyes.

    I did notice a lot of our pass plays were long developing. Very few safe throws to the TE, slants, drags, short curls.
    TEs were kept in to block ...

    Slants are dangerous and difficult against defenses that are playing inside leverage with LBs looking to undercut those routes ...

    Drags are even longer developing than slants and face the same challenges ... they are great against zones but not great against man coverage when the guys you are trying to get the ball to on the drag are getting doubled ...

    Curls may be the worst idea since the CB is taking away the inside release and then playing under the rest of the route ... they tried a few of those throws to Ross and most were closer to being picked off than completed.
    I don't even know where to begin. You know very little about football. Way to cherry pick everything to fit your narrative of why each type of throw would be bad.

    The slants were dangerous but every one of them was forced to Ross.

    Not every curl has to be a long throw to the outside.
    Doog Comeback Narrative: You don't know anything about football ...

    Ranks right up there with "you never played football" ...

    Congratulations on that fucktard ...

    You don't though. A "drag" is a route often meant to be used against man coverage. You saying otherwise was a big red flag.

    Sorry to go High Millen on you, but your analysis sucks.
    I know what a drag route is fucktard ...

    Go back and look at the film of the game ... anytime you had Ross coming across the field on a drag or cross he was picked up and double covered by a LB ... that's what makes Alabama so good defensively is that they are able to do things that few, if any, other teams can do.

    If you think it's realistic to run a drag route against a CB that is preventing an inside release and LBs that are looking to pick up those middle routes that have enough speed to run with the WR crossing the field then perhaps you are more qualified than Smith. What I saw in person was that those routes weren't available for us to run ...

    Now, if you want to talk about running outs or perhaps in/out routes into space that's another story.

    But my guess is that we were really trying to avoid throwing outs because a miss there turned into a pick 6 ...