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  • Secfans
    Secfans Member Posts: 44
    People keep gushing over these DTs because they're fat. I don't get it. Has the PAC12 never had 300+ DTs before? I've never seen such a big deal made out of 3 fat defensive linemen in my life.

    The SEC very well may be overrated. But Alabama ain't the SEC any more than Washington is Wazzou.
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,329
    edited December 2016
    Secfans said:

    People keep gushing over these DTs because they're fat. I don't get it. Has the PAC12 never had 300+ DTs before? I've never seen such a big deal made out of 3 fat defensive linemen in my life.

    Okay. There was an inbred from Alabama who did a ridiculous video that was entirely about how 'Bama was just fatter than UW. And this made Alabama a better team.

    Seriously. So now you are saying FATTER ISN'T BETTER. Boy, we feel really stupid for believing your inbred brethren now.
    Secfans said:

    The SEC very well may be overrated. But Alabama ain't the SEC any more than Washington is Wazzou.

    'Bama is not the SEC. However a 14 team SEC has A SINGLE TEAM WITH more than eight wins. A twelve team Pac 12 has five teams with at least 9 wins.

    Since you are, you know, from the south - I will do the math for you. That is 5 times as many teams with at least nine wins. This is from a pool of teams that is significantly smaller than the bloated SEC.

    So, yes, there is a chance that 'Bama (while a giant among midgets) is not totally unbeatable by a real team.




  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,266
    yeah but Bama 52 USC 6 rofl
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,329
    edited December 2016
    whlinder said:

    yeah but Bama 52 USC 6 rofl

    Really? When did that happen. I had no idea. . ..

    Next thing you'll tell me is that SECfans is the one who made the stupid video about Baker being too skinny.

    Whoosh much?

    HTH

  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,329
    whlinder said:

    If you can't see that my reply was mocking the typical SEC response to your poast then not even Grandpa Sankey can help you.

    I've been told no one can help me. . . .

  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    EwaDawg said:

    Secfans said:

    People keep gushing over these DTs because they're fat. I don't get it. Has the PAC12 never had 300+ DTs before? I've never seen such a big deal made out of 3 fat defensive linemen in my life.

    Okay. There was an inbred from Alabama who did a ridiculous video that was entirely about how 'Bama was just fatter than UW. And this made Alabama a better team.

    Seriously. So now you are saying FATTER ISN'T BETTER. Boy, we feel really stupid for believing your inbred brethren now.
    Secfans said:

    The SEC very well may be overrated. But Alabama ain't the SEC any more than Washington is Wazzou.

    'Bama is not the SEC. However a 14 team SEC has A SINGLE TEAM WITH more than eight wins. A twelve team Pac 12 has five teams with at least 9 wins.

    Since you are, you know, from the south - I will do the math for you. That is 5 times as many teams with at least nine wins. This is from a pool of teams that is significantly smaller than the bloated SEC.

    So, yes, there is a chance that 'Bama (while a giant among midgets) is not totally unbeatable by a real team.




    Ah yes, the old sort by 9 win teams metric. Famously outperformed SRS against the spread last bowl season.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Secfans said:

    People keep gushing over these DTs because they're fat. I don't get it. Has the PAC12 never had 300+ DTs before? I've never seen such a big deal made out of 3 fat defensive linemen in my life.

    The SEC very well may be overrated. But Alabama ain't the SEC any more than Washington is Wazzou.

    All three of those fat linemen also play high school tailback.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    Buddy and I had a bet over which Husky would say something that the media blows up. I picked p-salm. He picked Bierra.

    We both lost.
  • Secfans
    Secfans Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2016

    'Bama is not the SEC. However a 14 team SEC has A SINGLE TEAM WITH more than eight wins. A twelve team Pac 12 has five teams with at least 9 wins.

    Since you are, you know, from the south - I will do the math for you...

    So, yes, there is a chance that 'Bama (while a giant among midgets) is not totally unbeatable by a real team.

    What in the world does that have to do with anything? You have a bunch of teams who beat a bunch of trash PAC12 teams to get to a 9 win record. Since you're from, you know, the northwest...let me explain football to you. I'll even break down the math for you using my engineering degree.

    *** I noticed you include Utah in that group of "9 win teams" even though their 9th win came in a bowl and only one of the SEC's 5 8+ win teams have played their bowls so far...and LSU had to cancel their game with South AL that would have been a 6th 8 win team yet to play a bowl.

    9 win teams UW played:

    Stanford (9-3). Stanford opened with two wins over KSU and USC. Then went on to get wins against SEVEN CONSECUTIVE TEAMS with losing records. S-E-V-E-N. That's pitiful. They have 9 wins because they beat a bunch of teams everyone else beat. Including a one score win over ND and a nice season ender against Rice.

    Colorado (10-4). 7 of Colorado's 10 wins were against 6 teams with losing records and 7-6 Colorado St. They also lost 45-28 to Michigan, and 38-8 to Okie St. They were 0-4 against the 4 good/decent teams they played this year.

    USC (9-3). Ahh yes, the "resurgent" USC team who got their poo pushed in by Alabama to open the season. 7 of USC's 9 wins were against teams with losing records. After their 4 point win over a trash Colorado team, they finished the season against teams who averaged 4 wins this season, plus Washington. Woooooooooo. Before their win against Colorado, they beat 5-7 ASU, 4-8 Utah St, and had 3 losses. They good. They real real good.

    Utah (9-4) Ahhh yes. Utah. EIGHT. E-I-G-H-T of Utahs 9 wins came against 6 teams with losing records, FCS Southern Utah, and a 1 point win over a BYU team who 5-7 Miss St took to overtime.

    Now, let's have a look at Alabama shall we?

    USC (9-3). We've already done them. They've beaten nobody besides UW in what may have been a fluke.

    WKU (11-3). Beat the same trash Rice team by a wider margin than Stanford did. And a bunch of nobodies.

    Tenn (8-4). Beat 6 teams with winning records, 1 trash FCS team, and 1 team with a losing record. Beat the crap out of ACC division winning Va Tech.

    Texas A&M (8-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records, 1 FCS, and 4 teams with losing records.

    LSU (7-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records, and Ole Miss (healthy Chad Kelly), FCS JVille St, 6-7 Miss St, and crappy Mizzou.

    Auburn (8-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records, and Ole Miss w/a healthy Chad Kelly.

    Florida (8-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records but honestly Florida is trash too. They won their division by default. Would probably be a 3 point favorite against Colorado.

    So literally all of the 8 win conference wins for Bama won beat more teams with winning records than any of the 9+ conf wins for UW.

    But congrats on all the 9 win teams. That extra conference game with a win over 5-7 cal or 3-9 Arizona is a really big deal!

    None of this means UW is bad. UW beat the crap out of all these teams. It just means the PAC12 sucked this year.
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774
    Secfans said:

    People keep gushing over these DTs because they're fat. I don't get it. Has the PAC12 never had 300+ DTs before? I've never seen such a big deal made out of 3 fat defensive linemen in my life.

    The SEC very well may be overrated. But Alabama ain't the SEC any more than Washington is Wazzou.

    Tree murderer.
  • Secfans
    Secfans Member Posts: 44
    AlCzervik said:


    Tree murderer.

    I'm certain you can do better than that.

  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    EwaDawg said:

    Secfans said:

    People keep gushing over these DTs because they're fat. I don't get it. Has the PAC12 never had 300+ DTs before? I've never seen such a big deal made out of 3 fat defensive linemen in my life.

    Okay. There was an inbred from Alabama who did a ridiculous video that was entirely about how 'Bama was just fatter than UW. And this made Alabama a better team.

    Seriously. So now you are saying FATTER ISN'T BETTER. Boy, we feel really stupid for believing your inbred brethren now.
    Secfans said:

    The SEC very well may be overrated. But Alabama ain't the SEC any more than Washington is Wazzou.

    'Bama is not the SEC. However a 14 team SEC has A SINGLE TEAM WITH more than eight wins. A twelve team Pac 12 has five teams with at least 9 wins.

    Since you are, you know, from the south - I will do the math for you. That is 5 times as many teams with at least nine wins. This is from a pool of teams that is significantly smaller than the bloated SEC.

    So, yes, there is a chance that 'Bama (while a giant among midgets) is not totally unbeatable by a real team.




    Ah yes, the old sort by 9 win teams metric. Famously outperformed SRS against the spread last bowl season.
    @Secfans get dialed in. When someone makes a dumb poast (happens approximately every .81 seconds) you should respond in two or fewer sentences.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    SEC is the best until proven otherwise. Prove it DAWGS.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,624 Standard Supporter
    Funny how they can blow up "the SEC as a whole may be a little overrated".
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,624 Standard Supporter
    Secfans said:

    People keep gushing over these DTs because they're fat. I don't get it. Has the PAC12 never had 300+ DTs before? I've never seen such a big deal made out of 3 fat defensive linemen in my life.

    The SEC very well may be overrated. But Alabama ain't the SEC any more than Washington is Wazzou.

    Fat doesn't hang clean 405lbs.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Secfans said:

    'Bama is not the SEC. However a 14 team SEC has A SINGLE TEAM WITH more than eight wins. A twelve team Pac 12 has five teams with at least 9 wins.

    Since you are, you know, from the south - I will do the math for you...

    So, yes, there is a chance that 'Bama (while a giant among midgets) is not totally unbeatable by a real team.

    What in the world does that have to do with anything? You have a bunch of teams who beat a bunch of trash PAC12 teams to get to a 9 win record. Since you're from, you know, the northwest...let me explain football to you. I'll even break down the math for you using my engineering degree.

    *** I noticed you include Utah in that group of "9 win teams" even though their 9th win came in a bowl and only one of the SEC's 5 8+ win teams have played their bowls so far...and LSU had to cancel their game with South AL that would have been a 6th 8 win team yet to play a bowl.

    9 win teams UW played:

    Stanford (9-3). Stanford opened with two wins over KSU and USC. Then went on to get wins against SEVEN CONSECUTIVE TEAMS with losing records. S-E-V-E-N. That's pitiful. They have 9 wins because they beat a bunch of teams everyone else beat. Including a one score win over ND and a nice season ender against Rice.

    Colorado (10-4). 7 of Colorado's 10 wins were against 6 teams with losing records and 7-6 Colorado St. They also lost 45-28 to Michigan, and 38-8 to Okie St. They were 0-4 against the 4 good/decent teams they played this year.

    USC (9-3). Ahh yes, the "resurgent" USC team who got their poo pushed in by Alabama to open the season. 7 of USC's 9 wins were against teams with losing records. After their 4 point win over a trash Colorado team, they finished the season against teams who averaged 4 wins this season, plus Washington. Woooooooooo. Before their win against Colorado, they beat 5-7 ASU, 4-8 Utah St, and had 3 losses. They good. They real real good.

    Utah (9-4) Ahhh yes. Utah. EIGHT. E-I-G-H-T of Utahs 9 wins came against 6 teams with losing records, FCS Southern Utah, and a 1 point win over a BYU team who 5-7 Miss St took to overtime.

    Now, let's have a look at Alabama shall we?

    USC (9-3). We've already done them. They've beaten nobody besides UW in what may have been a fluke.

    WKU (11-3). Beat the same trash Rice team by a wider margin than Stanford did. And a bunch of nobodies.

    Tenn (8-4). Beat 6 teams with winning records, 1 trash FCS team, and 1 team with a losing record. Beat the crap out of ACC division winning Va Tech.

    Texas A&M (8-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records, 1 FCS, and 4 teams with losing records.

    LSU (7-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records, and Ole Miss (healthy Chad Kelly), FCS JVille St, 6-7 Miss St, and crappy Mizzou.

    Auburn (8-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records, and Ole Miss w/a healthy Chad Kelly.

    Florida (8-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records but honestly Florida is trash too. They won their division by default. Would probably be a 3 point favorite against Colorado.

    So literally all of the 8 win conference wins for Bama won beat more teams with winning records than any of the 9+ conf wins for UW.

    But congrats on all the 9 win teams. That extra conference game with a win over 5-7 cal or 3-9 Arizona is a really big deal!

    None of this means UW is bad. UW beat the crap out of all these teams. It just means the PAC12 sucked this year.
    Holy fuck.

    You could have just posted the last sentence to get your point across, Tequila.
  • HuskyClaws
    HuskyClaws Member Posts: 1,170
    Secfans said:

    People keep gushing over these DTs because they're fat. I don't get it.

    The NFL must hate them as prospects then.

  • Secfans
    Secfans Member Posts: 44
    Sledog said:

    Funny how they can blow up "the SEC as a whole may be a little overrated".

    I don't even know how the SEC is considered overrated - everyone has been saying they're the worst conference America for a decade...Any time the SEC loses an OOC game everyone falls all over themselves to announce the demise of the SEC.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Secfans said:

    Sledog said:

    Funny how they can blow up "the SEC as a whole may be a little overrated".

    I don't even know how the SEC is considered overrated - everyone has been saying they're the worst conference America for a decade...Any time the SEC loses an OOC game everyone falls all over themselves to announce the demise of the SEC.
    So you don't get ESPN then.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    Secfans said:

    'Bama is not the SEC. However a 14 team SEC has A SINGLE TEAM WITH more than eight wins. A twelve team Pac 12 has five teams with at least 9 wins.

    Since you are, you know, from the south - I will do the math for you...

    So, yes, there is a chance that 'Bama (while a giant among midgets) is not totally unbeatable by a real team.

    What in the world does that have to do with anything? You have a bunch of teams who beat a bunch of trash PAC12 teams to get to a 9 win record. Since you're from, you know, the northwest...let me explain football to you. I'll even break down the math for you using my engineering degree.

    *** I noticed you include Utah in that group of "9 win teams" even though their 9th win came in a bowl and only one of the SEC's 5 8+ win teams have played their bowls so far...and LSU had to cancel their game with South AL that would have been a 6th 8 win team yet to play a bowl.

    9 win teams UW played:

    Stanford (9-3). Stanford opened with two wins over KSU and USC. Then went on to get wins against SEVEN CONSECUTIVE TEAMS with losing records. S-E-V-E-N. That's pitiful. They have 9 wins because they beat a bunch of teams everyone else beat. Including a one score win over ND and a nice season ender against Rice.

    Colorado (10-4). 7 of Colorado's 10 wins were against 6 teams with losing records and 7-6 Colorado St. They also lost 45-28 to Michigan, and 38-8 to Okie St. They were 0-4 against the 4 good/decent teams they played this year.

    USC (9-3). Ahh yes, the "resurgent" USC team who got their poo pushed in by Alabama to open the season. 7 of USC's 9 wins were against teams with losing records. After their 4 point win over a trash Colorado team, they finished the season against teams who averaged 4 wins this season, plus Washington. Woooooooooo. Before their win against Colorado, they beat 5-7 ASU, 4-8 Utah St, and had 3 losses. They good. They real real good.

    Utah (9-4) Ahhh yes. Utah. EIGHT. E-I-G-H-T of Utahs 9 wins came against 6 teams with losing records, FCS Southern Utah, and a 1 point win over a BYU team who 5-7 Miss St took to overtime.

    Now, let's have a look at Alabama shall we?

    USC (9-3). We've already done them. They've beaten nobody besides UW in what may have been a fluke.

    WKU (11-3). Beat the same trash Rice team by a wider margin than Stanford did. And a bunch of nobodies.

    Tenn (8-4). Beat 6 teams with winning records, 1 trash FCS team, and 1 team with a losing record. Beat the crap out of ACC division winning Va Tech.

    Texas A&M (8-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records, 1 FCS, and 4 teams with losing records.

    LSU (7-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records, and Ole Miss (healthy Chad Kelly), FCS JVille St, 6-7 Miss St, and crappy Mizzou.

    Auburn (8-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records, and Ole Miss w/a healthy Chad Kelly.

    Florida (8-4). Beat 3 teams with winning records but honestly Florida is trash too. They won their division by default. Would probably be a 3 point favorite against Colorado.

    So literally all of the 8 win conference wins for Bama won beat more teams with winning records than any of the 9+ conf wins for UW.

    But congrats on all the 9 win teams. That extra conference game with a win over 5-7 cal or 3-9 Arizona is a really big deal!

    None of this means UW is bad. UW beat the crap out of all these teams. It just means the PAC12 sucked this year.
    Neato math. Superficial analysis. Shit relevance.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Secfans said:

    Sledog said:

    Funny how they can blow up "the SEC as a whole may be a little overrated".

    I don't even know how the SEC is considered overrated - everyone has been saying they're the worst conference America for a decade...Any time the SEC loses an OOC game everyone falls all over themselves to announce the demise of the SEC.
    where and who has done this

    even the awful pac12 network doesn't do this