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  • RaceBannon
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2016
    dhdawg said:

    so Obama doesn't get credit for years of job growth because the jobs are shitty but trump gets credit for keeping 800 jobs in exchange for 7 million dollars in tax breaks?

    No. Trump gets credit for appearing to do something about an ongoing problem of outsourcing manufacturing jobs (typically known as "good" jobs) to foreign countries. It's one example for the public and press to chew on that becomes a fable and an anecdote for his position on outsourcing. Of course its only one example, while the water is under the bridge and the floodgates opened long ago. But Trump is a master of appearances and, much like Reagan did, provides people with an example of something "being done."

    The theatrical value of his power to change things outweighs all the bitching, whining and sniping from his critics. He's fucking killing them all the way to the White House, and they fail to realize it. That's a big reason why HRC lost the election.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dhdawg said:

    so Obama doesn't get credit for years of job growth because the jobs are shitty but trump gets credit for keeping 800 jobs in exchange for 7 million dollars in tax breaks?

    No. Trump gets credit for appearing to do something about an ongoing problem of outsourcing manufacturing jobs (typically known as "good" jobs) to foreign countries. It's one example for the public and press to chew on that becomes a fable and an anecdote for his position on outsourcing. Of course its only one example, while the water is under the bridge and the floodgates opened long ago. But Trump is a master of appearances and, much like Reagan did, provides people with an example of something "being done."

    The theatrical value of his power to change things outweighs all the bitching, whining and sniping from his critics. He's fucking killing them all the way to the White House, and they fail to realize it. That's a big reason why HRC lost the election.
    Even Sarah Palin agrees what Trump did with Carrier was overstepping the bounds of free market.

    HTH
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2016
    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    so Obama doesn't get credit for years of job growth because the jobs are shitty but trump gets credit for keeping 800 jobs in exchange for 7 million dollars in tax breaks?

    No. Trump gets credit for appearing to do something about an ongoing problem of outsourcing manufacturing jobs (typically known as "good" jobs) to foreign countries. It's one example for the public and press to chew on that becomes a fable and an anecdote for his position on outsourcing. Of course its only one example, while the water is under the bridge and the floodgates opened long ago. But Trump is a master of appearances and, much like Reagan did, provides people with an example of something "being done."

    The theatrical value of his power to change things outweighs all the bitching, whining and sniping from his critics. He's fucking killing them all the way to the White House, and they fail to realize it. That's a big reason why HRC lost the election.
    Even Sarah Palin agrees what Trump did with Carrier was overstepping the bounds of free market.

    HTH
    You still don't get the point, do you Hondo? It doesn't matter.
    It must take effort to be so obtuse.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    so Obama doesn't get credit for years of job growth because the jobs are shitty but trump gets credit for keeping 800 jobs in exchange for 7 million dollars in tax breaks?

    No. Trump gets credit for appearing to do something about an ongoing problem of outsourcing manufacturing jobs (typically known as "good" jobs) to foreign countries. It's one example for the public and press to chew on that becomes a fable and an anecdote for his position on outsourcing. Of course its only one example, while the water is under the bridge and the floodgates opened long ago. But Trump is a master of appearances and, much like Reagan did, provides people with an example of something "being done."

    The theatrical value of his power to change things outweighs all the bitching, whining and sniping from his critics. He's fucking killing them all the way to the White House, and they fail to realize it. That's a big reason why HRC lost the election.
    Even Sarah Palin agrees what Trump did with Carrier was overstepping the bounds of free market.

    HTH
    You still don't get the point, do you Hondo? It doesn't matter.
    It must take effort to be so obtuse.
    It doesn't matter cause he's your guy and you'll support whatever he does. Even in direct contrast to what you bitched about under Obama.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    so Obama doesn't get credit for years of job growth because the jobs are shitty but trump gets credit for keeping 800 jobs in exchange for 7 million dollars in tax breaks?

    No. Trump gets credit for appearing to do something about an ongoing problem of outsourcing manufacturing jobs (typically known as "good" jobs) to foreign countries. It's one example for the public and press to chew on that becomes a fable and an anecdote for his position on outsourcing. Of course its only one example, while the water is under the bridge and the floodgates opened long ago. But Trump is a master of appearances and, much like Reagan did, provides people with an example of something "being done."

    The theatrical value of his power to change things outweighs all the bitching, whining and sniping from his critics. He's fucking killing them all the way to the White House, and they fail to realize it. That's a big reason why HRC lost the election.
    Even Sarah Palin agrees what Trump did with Carrier was overstepping the bounds of free market.

    HTH
    You still don't get the point, do you Hondo? It doesn't matter.
    It must take effort to be so obtuse.
    It doesn't matter cause he's your guy and you'll support whatever he does. Even in direct contrast to what you bitched about under Obama.
    He's your guy too, Hondo, as of January 20, 2017. I hope you've reached the "bargaining" stage by then, or your life is fucked.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    so Obama doesn't get credit for years of job growth because the jobs are shitty but trump gets credit for keeping 800 jobs in exchange for 7 million dollars in tax breaks?

    No. Trump gets credit for appearing to do something about an ongoing problem of outsourcing manufacturing jobs (typically known as "good" jobs) to foreign countries. It's one example for the public and press to chew on that becomes a fable and an anecdote for his position on outsourcing. Of course its only one example, while the water is under the bridge and the floodgates opened long ago. But Trump is a master of appearances and, much like Reagan did, provides people with an example of something "being done."

    The theatrical value of his power to change things outweighs all the bitching, whining and sniping from his critics. He's fucking killing them all the way to the White House, and they fail to realize it. That's a big reason why HRC lost the election.
    Even Sarah Palin agrees what Trump did with Carrier was overstepping the bounds of free market.

    HTH
    You still don't get the point, do you Hondo? It doesn't matter.
    It must take effort to be so obtuse.
    It doesn't matter cause he's your guy and you'll support whatever he does. Even in direct contrast to what you bitched about under Obama.
    He's your guy too, Hondo, as of January 20, 2017. I hope you've reached the "bargaining" stage by then, or your life is fucked.
    You sound bitter.

    Me? I've accepted Trump and I actually just made some changes to my portfolio today and will over the next couple weeks to be more profitable under Trump. Plus I'll get a significant tax cut. And hopefully have enough cash to build my wealth during the recession in a couple years.

    That being said, I'm gonna laugh and poke fun at Troomps like you along the way.

    How are you doing?
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    dhdawg said:

    so Obama doesn't get credit for years of job growth because the jobs are shitty but trump gets credit for keeping 800 jobs in exchange for 7 million dollars in tax breaks?

    No. Trump gets credit for appearing to do something about an ongoing problem of outsourcing manufacturing jobs (typically known as "good" jobs) to foreign countries. It's one example for the public and press to chew on that becomes a fable and an anecdote for his position on outsourcing. Of course its only one example, while the water is under the bridge and the floodgates opened long ago. But Trump is a master of appearances and, much like Reagan did, provides people with an example of something "being done."

    The theatrical value of his power to change things outweighs all the bitching, whining and sniping from his critics. He's fucking killing them all the way to the White House, and they fail to realize it. That's a big reason why HRC lost the election.
    If trump actually kills tpp that would be an example of him actually giving a shit about workers.
    This deal sets a horrible future precedent, unless you're now okay with giving 7 million dollar handouts to every company threatening to outsource.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    so Obama doesn't get credit for years of job growth because the jobs are shitty but trump gets credit for keeping 800 jobs in exchange for 7 million dollars in tax breaks?

    No. Trump gets credit for appearing to do something about an ongoing problem of outsourcing manufacturing jobs (typically known as "good" jobs) to foreign countries. It's one example for the public and press to chew on that becomes a fable and an anecdote for his position on outsourcing. Of course its only one example, while the water is under the bridge and the floodgates opened long ago. But Trump is a master of appearances and, much like Reagan did, provides people with an example of something "being done."

    The theatrical value of his power to change things outweighs all the bitching, whining and sniping from his critics. He's fucking killing them all the way to the White House, and they fail to realize it. That's a big reason why HRC lost the election.
    Even Sarah Palin agrees what Trump did with Carrier was overstepping the bounds of free market.

    HTH
    You still don't get the point, do you Hondo? It doesn't matter.
    It must take effort to be so obtuse.
    It doesn't matter cause he's your guy and you'll support whatever he does. Even in direct contrast to what you bitched about under Obama.
    He's your guy too, Hondo, as of January 20, 2017. I hope you've reached the "bargaining" stage by then, or your life is fucked.
    You sound bitter.

    Me? I've accepted Trump and I actually just made some changes to my portfolio today and will over the next couple weeks to be more profitable under Trump. Plus I'll get a significant tax cut. And hopefully have enough cash to build my wealth during the recession in a couple years.

    That being said, I'm gonna laugh and poke fun at Troomps like you along the way.

    How are you doing?
    Same. Me and my family will do fine. And when trump fails miserably it might finally wake this country up and start the movement that we need
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    My investments are skyrocketing, to be honest. But you guys continue to miss the point of the spectacle Trump is creating daily. Obama talked a lot, but did very little, and he's acknowledged that many times in many interviews, where he explains his theory that all meaningful progress is incremental.

    Trump is doing the opposite, drawing a much straighter and shorter line between his action and results. And people eat that shit up, just like they did with Reagan. Wiser folk like Mark Cuban are getting it and adjusting accordingly.

    Others are stuck in a loser mentality that still want to fight the election, deny reality, and piss into the wind. Go for it. See where it gets you.