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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,126

    Their O-Line is pretty damn good. If they had a better QB they probably beat us today. Also that retired RB runs really hard. Seemed like he was always falling forward for a yard or two every damn time.

    Their defense is not really good though. Similar to Arizona we rushed almost at will against them but for some reason when we are around the fifty yard line we start getting cute with the play calling.

    Pretty good? Both RB's averaged over 7 a pop. The OL very well may be the strength of the offense.

    The best formation is the one with Sample and Dissly. Some shotgun Stanford shit with John Ross and Pettis.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    Who is bitching about 8-0?

    Husky fans.

    Is anyone surprised?

    No.

    If you don't have high standards, LEAVE.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,552 Swaye's Wigwam

    If we don't abandon our offense and get cute, leading to call that ridiculous downfield throw (INT), we roll.

    But we won against a top 20 team playing a B game. Fuck it. I'll take it.

    Your first sentence is the 2nd most important sentence of the day behind the one saying we won.

    You've just called two great series back to back for a 14-0 lead. Then you go for the home run which Jake throws away to be 2nd and 10. Nothing on 2nd, 3rd down was the pick and it's a game again.

    I completely lost my shit seeing that, and THAT is preciously why Smith scares me as o.c. He has a dna gene in him to get fuckin cute/tricky one or two times per game. Most lead to blown series, a few will lead to fg's instead of td's. Today's led to the int.

    Continue the groove from the previous td's, get another td or a field goal, make Utah and BP down three scores and tgio (that game is over)
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    I wish I had an All 22 to watch for each play ... but Utah did a much better job this week of really shoring up some of the weaknesses that they had against UCLA.

    There were definitely some things we did well, ok, and poor ... but we averaged just under 7 yards per play ... so it's hard to get overly critical there.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,126
    Tequilla said:

    I wish I had an All 22 to watch for each play ... but Utah did a much better job this week of really shoring up some of the weaknesses that they had against UCLA.

    There were definitely some things we did well, ok, and poor ... but we averaged just under 7 yards per play ... so it's hard to get overly critical there.

    The leading rusher in the PAC should get more than 19 carries when he's getting 8 a pop. 8-0 is 8-0, but i don't see how anyone could argue Gaskin should have gotten more touches.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,126
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    I wish I had an All 22 to watch for each play ... but Utah did a much better job this week of really shoring up some of the weaknesses that they had against UCLA.

    There were definitely some things we did well, ok, and poor ... but we averaged just under 7 yards per play ... so it's hard to get overly critical there.

    The leading rusher in the PAC should get more than 19 carries when he's getting 8 a pop. 8-0 is 8-0, but i don't see how anyone could argue Gaskin should have gotten more touches.
    We ran 53 plays today (excluding those plays where we took a knee) ... we ran the ball 33 of those 53 plays ... that's a 62/38 percent split ...

    Gaskin and Coleman had similar per carry production so it's really a non-issue to me. More importantly Dotson proved to be ineffective and promptly was removed from the field.

    If you want in summation the reason that I struggle with your takes from time to time, it's your comment here as it isn't taken in the context of the game. There's a lot that you see that is very good ... but for example, when Gaskin goes on a 3-4 play burst where he gets about 35-40 yards, he's going to need a blow. Coleman comes in and continues pounding down the field or they hit a throw and the drive is over and then Gaskin technically isn't getting the carries that you want him to have. The reality is that we're a 60-70 play per game team. In a game like today where we're playing a team that wants to shorten a game, the number of plays is where it was today in the mid 50's ... more important for the offense to be efficient with the right balance then forcing touches ... the forcing of shit is what we've done in the past and it has got us in trouble.

    Yeah, the balance has been great. It just seemed like there were long stretches were Gaskin was out. All good. We won. He just was doing so well I think they should have given him a few more.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
    H_D said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    I wish I had an All 22 to watch for each play ... but Utah did a much better job this week of really shoring up some of the weaknesses that they had against UCLA.

    There were definitely some things we did well, ok, and poor ... but we averaged just under 7 yards per play ... so it's hard to get overly critical there.

    The leading rusher in the PAC should get more than 19 carries when he's getting 8 a pop. 8-0 is 8-0, but i don't see how anyone could argue Gaskin should have gotten more touches.
    We ran 53 plays today (excluding those plays where we took a knee) ... we ran the ball 33 of those 53 plays ... that's a 62/38 percent split ...

    Gaskin and Coleman had similar per carry production so it's really a non-issue to me. More importantly Dotson proved to be ineffective and promptly was removed from the field.

    If you want in summation the reason that I struggle with your takes from time to time, it's your comment here as it isn't taken in the context of the game. There's a lot that you see that is very good ... but for example, when Gaskin goes on a 3-4 play burst where he gets about 35-40 yards, he's going to need a blow. Coleman comes in and continues pounding down the field or they hit a throw and the drive is over and then Gaskin technically isn't getting the carries that you want him to have. The reality is that we're a 60-70 play per game team. In a game like today where we're playing a team that wants to shorten a game, the number of plays is where it was today in the mid 50's ... more important for the offense to be efficient with the right balance then forcing touches ... the forcing of shit is what we've done in the past and it has got us in trouble.

    Yeah, the balance has been great. It just seemed like there were long stretches were Gaskin was out. All good. We won. He just was doing so well I think they should have given him a few more.
    Coleman seems to be a serviceable #2, I just don't see why Dotson is getting carries / series with those 2 ahead of him.
    And with Sean McGrew on deck, Dotsons carries are hopefully almost done. Unless we use McGrew like we use Chico.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    The problem isn't the raw run/pass ratio, it's that Babushka will call like five runs in a row and then four or five passes in a row. Multiple drives started well and then failed because of stupid first down incompletions.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,155

    V-tech won by 3 against Pitt
    Navy got plungered by South Florida
    Michigan won by 9 to an 0-5 conference team
    Lemson won by 3 on the road
    ville' should have lost again to virginia
    tOSU won by 4 against northwester
    Baylor lost to fucking texas
    BSU lost by to two wyoming
    Tennessee lost to South carolina on the road
    WVU loses to Oky State

    Moral of the story is that winning as the season progresses, on the road in conference is not as easy as some make it out to be. Even against incredibly inferior competition. It's not loser talk to win in tough stadiums against good teams. Utah isn't some shit sandwich team like Michigan state.

    So maybe a little bit of perspective that we aren't going to hang 50 on every team and that all we? have to do is get to the next game undefeated. Style points are cute for co-eds, but getting fucking W's is all that matters.


    This.

    But we still should have beaten Ute by 21. Their oline and RB are legit. Their passing game and defense is mediocre
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Utah is way better in the trenches than I thought. Solid team and Im happy with getting the W. I legitimately thought it was going to be a blowout, especially up 14.

    Utah would hang with Ohio State or Michigan in the Rose Bowl

    Utah is way better in the trenches than I thought. Solid team and Im happy with getting the W. I legitimately thought it was going to be a blowout, especially up 14.

    Utah would hang with Ohio State or Michigan in the Rose Bowl

    Utah sucks. They win one more game the rest of the Season if they're lucky.
  • TommySQC
    TommySQC Member Posts: 5,813

    gmo said:

    agreed that wasn't one of our better coached games. I understand "we" never blitz, but they were getting absolutely zero pressure on that cocky fuck all game... believe they blitzed a grand total of once. Result: sack.

    I don't get why we rarely blitzed. Joel Klatt or somebody (Baird?...I have unleashed the beer after 17 daze dry) said we only blitz 9% of the time. Williams is sort of mobile but we sacked him when we did.
    We should have blitzed more. Against Arizona too. We keep giving lanes for QBs to run through
    You do realize blitzing opens up more lanes...
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,155
    TommySQC said:

    gmo said:

    agreed that wasn't one of our better coached games. I understand "we" never blitz, but they were getting absolutely zero pressure on that cocky fuck all game... believe they blitzed a grand total of once. Result: sack.

    I don't get why we rarely blitzed. Joel Klatt or somebody (Baird?...I have unleashed the beer after 17 daze dry) said we only blitz 9% of the time. Williams is sort of mobile but we sacked him when we did.
    We should have blitzed more. Against Arizona too. We keep giving lanes for QBs to run through
    You do realize blitzing opens up more lanes...
    Yeah but at least there are more bodies around the QB.

    It is better than dropping everyone but 4 and letting the QB run unharassed for 10+ yards
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Swaye said:

    I hate this "at least we won" shit. It's soft and something that a Quook or Coog would say.

    And I don't mean it with some bullshit. We should have rather easily to plungered Troy Williams and the mormons, but we were actually losing in the 3rd quarter and tied with 4 min to go. You bet your ass I'm glad that "at least we won."
    Look, I'm as happy as anyone else here, I just hate the Pollyannas here that can't see any wrong.
    We good my nigga
    Not sure an asian should say this
    @HoneyCocaine, true?!?!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlxIqTwt_QQ
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    I wish I had an All 22 to watch for each play ... but Utah did a much better job this week of really shoring up some of the weaknesses that they had against UCLA.

    There were definitely some things we did well, ok, and poor ... but we averaged just under 7 yards per play ... so it's hard to get overly critical there.

    The leading rusher in the PAC should get more than 19 carries when he's getting 8 a pop. 8-0 is 8-0, but i don't see how anyone could argue Gaskin should have gotten more touches.
    We ran 53 plays today (excluding those plays where we took a knee) ... we ran the ball 33 of those 53 plays ... that's a 62/38 percent split ...

    Gaskin and Coleman had similar per carry production so it's really a non-issue to me. More importantly Dotson proved to be ineffective and promptly was removed from the field.

    If you want in summation the reason that I struggle with your takes from time to time, it's your comment here as it isn't taken in the context of the game. There's a lot that you see that is very good ... but for example, when Gaskin goes on a 3-4 play burst where he gets about 35-40 yards, he's going to need a blow. Coleman comes in and continues pounding down the field or they hit a throw and the drive is over and then Gaskin technically isn't getting the carries that you want him to have. The reality is that we're a 60-70 play per game team. In a game like today where we're playing a team that wants to shorten a game, the number of plays is where it was today in the mid 50's ... more important for the offense to be efficient with the right balance then forcing touches ... the forcing of shit is what we've done in the past and it has got us in trouble.

    Yeah, the balance has been great. It just seemed like there were long stretches were Gaskin was out. All good. We won. He just was doing so well I think they should have given him a few more.
    They're gonna save Gaskin for the Apple Cup.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    Anybody that is going bat shit crazy on the INT from Browning because of the play call is FS ...

    Jake made the read of the Utes being in what looked like Cover 3 or Cover 4 and saw Chico splitting the dropping CB and S ... the problem there is that Jake stared down Chico (running a seem route) and never moved the S off of the spot of where he was trying to go with Chico. It wasn't a great read by Jake (that's a tough throw against Cover 4 particularly) but an even worse throw given that he never moved the safety off of the spot. Probably a Top 5-10 bad play for him on the year.

    That being said, to throw the OC under the bus for the play call is probably going a little extreme there. It was 3rd and long so having at least one deep route to clear out and run the safeties back in a Cover-x situation is required. If it's there you take the shot ... if not you check down. That's on Browning ... not the OC.

    Nope.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    H_D said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    I wish I had an All 22 to watch for each play ... but Utah did a much better job this week of really shoring up some of the weaknesses that they had against UCLA.

    There were definitely some things we did well, ok, and poor ... but we averaged just under 7 yards per play ... so it's hard to get overly critical there.

    The leading rusher in the PAC should get more than 19 carries when he's getting 8 a pop. 8-0 is 8-0, but i don't see how anyone could argue Gaskin should have gotten more touches.
    We ran 53 plays today (excluding those plays where we took a knee) ... we ran the ball 33 of those 53 plays ... that's a 62/38 percent split ...

    Gaskin and Coleman had similar per carry production so it's really a non-issue to me. More importantly Dotson proved to be ineffective and promptly was removed from the field.

    If you want in summation the reason that I struggle with your takes from time to time, it's your comment here as it isn't taken in the context of the game. There's a lot that you see that is very good ... but for example, when Gaskin goes on a 3-4 play burst where he gets about 35-40 yards, he's going to need a blow. Coleman comes in and continues pounding down the field or they hit a throw and the drive is over and then Gaskin technically isn't getting the carries that you want him to have. The reality is that we're a 60-70 play per game team. In a game like today where we're playing a team that wants to shorten a game, the number of plays is where it was today in the mid 50's ... more important for the offense to be efficient with the right balance then forcing touches ... the forcing of shit is what we've done in the past and it has got us in trouble.

    Yeah, the balance has been great. It just seemed like there were long stretches were Gaskin was out. All good. We won. He just was doing so well I think they should have given him a few more.
    Coleman seems to be a serviceable #2, I just don't see why Dotson is getting carries / series with those 2 ahead of him.
    Dotson is fast enough when he gets outside and around the corner. Between the tackles, he doesn't have the experience, the balance or the cutback abilities, and his high center of gravity makes him easy to trip and tackle.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    I wish I had an All 22 to watch for each play ... but Utah did a much better job this week of really shoring up some of the weaknesses that they had against UCLA.

    There were definitely some things we did well, ok, and poor ... but we averaged just under 7 yards per play ... so it's hard to get overly critical there.

    The leading rusher in the PAC should get more than 19 carries when he's getting 8 a pop. 8-0 is 8-0, but i don't see how anyone could argue Gaskin should have gotten more touches.
    We ran 53 plays today (excluding those plays where we took a knee) ... we ran the ball 33 of those 53 plays ... that's a 62/38 percent split ...

    Gaskin and Coleman had similar per carry production so it's really a non-issue to me. More importantly Dotson proved to be ineffective and promptly was removed from the field.

    If you want in summation the reason that I struggle with your takes from time to time, it's your comment here as it isn't taken in the context of the game. There's a lot that you see that is very good ... but for example, when Gaskin goes on a 3-4 play burst where he gets about 35-40 yards, he's going to need a blow. Coleman comes in and continues pounding down the field or they hit a throw and the drive is over and then Gaskin technically isn't getting the carries that you want him to have. The reality is that we're a 60-70 play per game team. In a game like today where we're playing a team that wants to shorten a game, the number of plays is where it was today in the mid 50's ... more important for the offense to be efficient with the right balance then forcing touches ... the forcing of shit is what we've done in the past and it has got us in trouble.

    Yeah, the balance has been great. It just seemed like there were long stretches were Gaskin was out. All good. We won. He just was doing so well I think they should have given him a few more.
    In fairness, Gaskin tapped out several times.

    There was only one real time where I was upset he was not in and that was when we came out of the third quarter and into the fourth, and we were running really well. Myles had just taken himself out because he ran four straight plays for like 50 yards. Then we hit the quarter break and I was like, "Perfect, Myles will be ready to go now that he gets a breather at the break," but then they came out and he still wasn't in.

    This whole thing with Dotson though needs to stop, he missed a MASSIVE hole to his right on a run and I am pretty sure he didn't play after that. I don't have a problem with him in on 3rd and long because he is a REALLY good pass protector and he is pretty good in the screen game. But other than that we just need to roll with Myles and Coleman.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    I wish I had an All 22 to watch for each play ... but Utah did a much better job this week of really shoring up some of the weaknesses that they had against UCLA.

    There were definitely some things we did well, ok, and poor ... but we averaged just under 7 yards per play ... so it's hard to get overly critical there.

    The leading rusher in the PAC should get more than 19 carries when he's getting 8 a pop. 8-0 is 8-0, but i don't see how anyone could argue Gaskin should have gotten more touches.
    We ran 53 plays today (excluding those plays where we took a knee) ... we ran the ball 33 of those 53 plays ... that's a 62/38 percent split ...

    Gaskin and Coleman had similar per carry production so it's really a non-issue to me. More importantly Dotson proved to be ineffective and promptly was removed from the field.

    If you want in summation the reason that I struggle with your takes from time to time, it's your comment here as it isn't taken in the context of the game. There's a lot that you see that is very good ... but for example, when Gaskin goes on a 3-4 play burst where he gets about 35-40 yards, he's going to need a blow. Coleman comes in and continues pounding down the field or they hit a throw and the drive is over and then Gaskin technically isn't getting the carries that you want him to have. The reality is that we're a 60-70 play per game team. In a game like today where we're playing a team that wants to shorten a game, the number of plays is where it was today in the mid 50's ... more important for the offense to be efficient with the right balance then forcing touches ... the forcing of shit is what we've done in the past and it has got us in trouble.

    Yeah, the balance has been great. It just seemed like there were long stretches were Gaskin was out. All good. We won. He just was doing so well I think they should have given him a few more.
    In fairness, Gaskin tapped out several times.

    There was only one real time where I was upset he was not in and that was when we came out of the third quarter and into the fourth, and we were running really well. Myles had just taken himself out because he ran four straight plays for like 50 yards. Then we hit the quarter break and I was like, "Perfect, Myles will be ready to go now that he gets a breather at the break," but then they came out and he still wasn't in.

    This whole thing with Dotson though needs to stop, he missed a MASSIVE hole to his right on a run and I am pretty sure he didn't play after that. I don't have a problem with him in on 3rd and long because he is a REALLY good pass protector and he is pretty good in the screen game. But other than that we just need to roll with Myles and Coleman.
    And that is truly bizarre. But yeah, he'll cut the legs outta anyone.