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He threw 20 times and we played like shit most of the day on offense... 25-30 is the money range imo.doogsinparadise said:
What's been empirically proven this year is that the team does better when Jake doesn't have to throw more than 20-22 times per game. That's not the mark of a transcendent qb. His interception today happened because he stared down his receiver, and he's still shitting his pants against the blitz.koopdog said:
I honestly believe if he's not now, he will be. His development is off the charts. Put that together with his competitive streak and his accuracy which is empirical, and his ability to evade the pocket rush.....yes. And his ability to look off the defense. A true Sophomore. I'm a doog for him like I was for Peterman. I get that. But I'm right.doogsinparadise said:
We must not be watching the same game. He's alright, certainly in the top 15 in the country. But elite? Idk man.koopdog said:
Brother, I don't know, because he hasn't been put in that position yet. I think he's really, really, really good. I'll go with Browning. Look at the quantum leap in his development since last year. Next year? We'll see. We are a year ahead of what I thought would happen.doogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers.
I get that it's exciting to have an above average qb after 15 years, but slow the man crushage down a little bit.
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If Falk or Darnold played for UW you'd find some reason to shit on them as well HTHdoogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers. -
It's completely FS to use 1 pick as reason why a QB is overrated. Sure, he stared down the receiver. But if that was normal for him he'd have a hell of a lot more picks than his current 3 after 8 games. Using an extreme outlier as evidence to bolster your argument is disingenuous and just dumb. Guy has 28 touchdowns and 3 picks. You don't get a 9+/1 TD/INT ratio staring down receivers consistently.doogsinparadise said:
What's been empirically proven this year is that the team does better when Jake doesn't have to throw more than 20-22 times per game. That's not the mark of a transcendent qb. His interception today happened because he stared down his receiver, and he's still shitting his pants against the blitz.koopdog said:
I honestly believe if he's not now, he will be. His development is off the charts. Put that together with his competitive streak and his accuracy which is empirical, and his ability to evade the pocket rush.....yes. And his ability to look off the defense. A true Sophomore. I'm a doog for him like I was for Peterman. I get that. But I'm right.doogsinparadise said:
We must not be watching the same game. He's alright, certainly in the top 15 in the country. But elite? Idk man.koopdog said:
Brother, I don't know, because he hasn't been put in that position yet. I think he's really, really, really good. I'll go with Browning. Look at the quantum leap in his development since last year. Next year? We'll see. We are a year ahead of what I thought would happen.doogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers.
I get that it's exciting to have an above average qb after 15 years, but slow the man crushage down a little bit.
For fuck's sake, dude didn't have his best game today. But he's a true sophomore and balling out. It's ridiculous. I swear if Andrew Luck played at UW, some of you fucks would complain that Tom Brady is better. So, say some ACC QBs in fact are better than him. What does that change? He's still our quarterback and will likely only get better. Who fucking cares if Watson as an upperclassman is a little better? It's irrelevant and has nothing to do with Brownnose being good or not. -
Water is wet until it's not.doogsinparadise said:I'll let it play out, but I don't think you can win a natty with Brownsocks.
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Tom Brady is better and has four Super Bowl ringsDugtheDoog said:
It's completely FS to use 1 pick as reason why a QB is overrated. Sure, he stared down the receiver. But if that was normal for him he'd have a hell of a lot more picks than his current 3 after 8 games. Using an extreme outlier as evidence to bolster your argument is disingenuous and just dumb. Guy has 28 touchdowns and 3 picks. You don't get a 9+/1 TD/INT ratio staring down receivers consistently.doogsinparadise said:
What's been empirically proven this year is that the team does better when Jake doesn't have to throw more than 20-22 times per game. That's not the mark of a transcendent qb. His interception today happened because he stared down his receiver, and he's still shitting his pants against the blitz.koopdog said:
I honestly believe if he's not now, he will be. His development is off the charts. Put that together with his competitive streak and his accuracy which is empirical, and his ability to evade the pocket rush.....yes. And his ability to look off the defense. A true Sophomore. I'm a doog for him like I was for Peterman. I get that. But I'm right.doogsinparadise said:
We must not be watching the same game. He's alright, certainly in the top 15 in the country. But elite? Idk man.koopdog said:
Brother, I don't know, because he hasn't been put in that position yet. I think he's really, really, really good. I'll go with Browning. Look at the quantum leap in his development since last year. Next year? We'll see. We are a year ahead of what I thought would happen.doogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers.
I get that it's exciting to have an above average qb after 15 years, but slow the man crushage down a little bit.
For fuck's sake, dude didn't have his best game today. But he's a true sophomore and balling out. It's ridiculous. I swear if Andrew Luck played at UW, some of you fucks would complain that Tom Brady is better. So, say some ACC QBs in fact are better than him. What does that change? He's still our quarterback and will likely only get better. Who fucking cares if Watson as an upperclassman is a little better? It's irrelevant and has nothing to do with Brownnose being good or not. -
I thought Jake made some nice plays. My favorite was the floater to Sample when he was scrambling to his left on 3rd down deep on our end of the field.
I didn't like watching Jake get sacked a few times later in the game, because he's been great at extending plays and/or getting rid of the ball to avoid them. I saw one play where he was sacked while it appeared that all his receivers ran long-developing routes on either side of the field. A checkdown option would have at least given him the chance to throw the football away. But, I get that we're not a checkdown, play-it-safe type of offense. We want big, explosive plays. So, maybe we have to just accept that and tell the offensive line to quit fucking up. I don't know. I'm not an expert, nor do I pretend to be one by making you pay for "premium content" to read my uninformed opinions.
I'm sure it's already been mentioned (I didn't read all 4 pages of posts...even though, knowing this board, it probably wouldn't take much time considering that half of them are probably pictures, gifs, and short, inside-joke phrase posts that have been posted thousands of times over on this board, and will hopefully continue to be re-posted because they never get old or tiring as evidenced by the up-votes and chincredibles they will forever receive), but we were running the ball pretty well, which limited Browning's opportunity to put up Heisman-worthy stats. He still averaged over 9+ yards per attempt, and the only mistake I can recall him making was the interception. -
And I'm not saying the OP is wrong, but we didn't need Jake to be our savior today, which means this game isn't indicative of his ability to pull through when we absolutely need him to.
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28-3 TD/INT ratio? Yeah? Well how many Super Bowls has he won? He's never even made the pro bowl!11!!11!! He wouldn't even start for the Patriots. Guy sucks.Baseman said:
Tom Brady is better and has four Super Bowl ringsDugtheDoog said:
It's completely FS to use 1 pick as reason why a QB is overrated. Sure, he stared down the receiver. But if that was normal for him he'd have a hell of a lot more picks than his current 3 after 8 games. Using an extreme outlier as evidence to bolster your argument is disingenuous and just dumb. Guy has 28 touchdowns and 3 picks. You don't get a 9+/1 TD/INT ratio staring down receivers consistently.doogsinparadise said:
What's been empirically proven this year is that the team does better when Jake doesn't have to throw more than 20-22 times per game. That's not the mark of a transcendent qb. His interception today happened because he stared down his receiver, and he's still shitting his pants against the blitz.koopdog said:
I honestly believe if he's not now, he will be. His development is off the charts. Put that together with his competitive streak and his accuracy which is empirical, and his ability to evade the pocket rush.....yes. And his ability to look off the defense. A true Sophomore. I'm a doog for him like I was for Peterman. I get that. But I'm right.doogsinparadise said:
We must not be watching the same game. He's alright, certainly in the top 15 in the country. But elite? Idk man.koopdog said:
Brother, I don't know, because he hasn't been put in that position yet. I think he's really, really, really good. I'll go with Browning. Look at the quantum leap in his development since last year. Next year? We'll see. We are a year ahead of what I thought would happen.doogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers.
I get that it's exciting to have an above average qb after 15 years, but slow the man crushage down a little bit.
For fuck's sake, dude didn't have his best game today. But he's a true sophomore and balling out. It's ridiculous. I swear if Andrew Luck played at UW, some of you fucks would complain that Tom Brady is better. So, say some ACC QBs in fact are better than him. What does that change? He's still our quarterback and will likely only get better. Who fucking cares if Watson as an upperclassman is a little better? It's irrelevant and has nothing to do with Brownnose being good or not. -
This is a strange thread.
Y'all are bitching about Browning when he threw for 9.3 yards per attempt.
There are eight teams in the entire damn nation averaging more than 9.3 ypa on the season. Utah on the road might, just might, be a tougher than average matchup.
Yeah he threw a dumb pick. That will happen. Yawn. Wake me up when he is throwing more than one every 2-3 games.
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Doogles to Brownsocks's honor.Doogles said:
You're such a faggot who hates pre snap Jesus.doogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers.
How simplistic your analysis is. Back to doog man with you. -
Yeah, so.ExtraChrisB said:
If Falk or Darnold played for UW you'd find some reason to shit on them as well HTHdoogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers. -
Let me break this down for all you douchecanoes...I was all up in Cobras ass (lulz) in the game thread, but there isn't another QB in the Pac12 I'd take over him. Is he Andrew Luck? Nope. But I bet he is by next year. Kid is a true Soph, and the best QB we have had in 15 years. You aren't second or third in the Heisman race by accident. That said, he needs to work on not getting tight in pressure situations, which he will with more experience. He needs to learn to tuck and run when all other options are dead - I appreciate he keeps his eyes down field and always tries to make a play but a few times last night a decision to tuck and run a split second earlier is a first down instead of a punt.
That's about it. Kid has a lively arm (not a cannon but who gives a fuck), is super accurate, is the best audible caller (cerebral) we have had in forever, total gamer, and his team respects the shit out of him. Another year and I think most of the Brownsocks should be gone. That's it. Fuck off if you don't agree because I'm right. I will still call him a fuckstain in a game thread this year when he fucks up. You are allowed to call a kid you know is great a fuckstain in the heat of the moment. Just don't be a dipshit and stick to that opinion after the game, that he won, on the road, against a top 20 team. -
Interesting coming from you.Passion said:"Tough day for Jake Browning. 12 for 20 with 1 TD and 1 INT."
Great win, but this kid still hasn't shown he can carry a team when it's close.
God bless Myles Gaskin.
I'll take the win. Whew.
Did you run out of "
Jesus Christ.doogsinparadise said:
He's the fourth best qb in the conference.dnc said:Browning's worst game of the season and he completed 60% of his passes for 9.5 yards per attempt, two scores and a pick.
He wasn't at his best but he wasn't close to bad.
He's the best QB we've had since Tui and the best QB in the nation who doesn't play in the ACC.
He sucks.
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"Beefy?"PurpleJ said:
People get hurt and we lack depth at this point. Linebackers were lost sometimes. Not hitting gaps and struggled with tackling. They had a good back, but I've seen us play much better. You're liable to get plungered in the playoffs with a performance like that.koopdog said:
Not a Fag, J. We didn't blow aids monkeys, but there was some struggles there. I think part of it was scheme and our dogma about not blitzing. Another part was Jo-Jo being out.PurpleJ said:Utah kept in the game with timely throws and a good running game. Our QB was better and we ran the ball well. Should have won by more, but we won.
Bama is the #1 team in the land with a true frosh at QB. It doesn't matter if you can run it and play good (they are great, but we are pretty good on D) defense and special teams.
We aren't quite there yet with our front 7. It showed against a real line today. I don't think we can win in the playoffs if we get there. People will hate me for pointing this out, but I am impressed with the improvement this year.
Thank koop for his service in getting a decent post out of this fucktard. I like my Noles tonight. The ACC is my favorite conference this year.
Enjoy the ride and hopefully we can keep it respectable in the playoffs. Everyone on the west coast will want to be a Dawg.
We're a year ahead of where I thought we'd be though, so the astroglide is scared.
I would have liked to see some more blitzing and man coverage, though. We needed to be aggressive against a team with a beefy line that is dependent on running the ball. Should have dared Troy to beat us.
Could you be a bigger fag, J?
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.... just curious ... would mathis have made an appreciable difference in our pass rush? ..... new to the internets. be gentle
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LEAVE!darthr said:.... just curious ... would mathis have made an appreciable difference in our pass rush? ..... new to the internets. be gentle
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..... was it something i said?
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No. Just an obligatory post.darthr said:..... was it something i said?
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..... ain't leavin' till i see damone
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1) Exactly. Glad somebody gets it.Swaye said:That said, he needs to work on not getting tight in pressure situations, which he will with more experience. He needs to learn to tuck and run when all other options are dead -
I will still call him a fuckstain in a game thread this year when he fucks up. You are allowed to call a kid you know is great a fuckstain in the heat of the moment.
2) This is the kind of shit that would get you banned on doogman, and why this site exists.
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He's better than any QB Alabama has had under Saban.doogsinparadise said:I'll let it play out, but I don't think you can win a natty with Brownsocks.
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McCarron was really good IMO.RoadDawg55 said:
He's better than any QB Alabama has had under Saban.doogsinparadise said:I'll let it play out, but I don't think you can win a natty with Brownsocks.
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Woah man, hard disagree.RoadDawg55 said:
He's better than any QB Alabama has had under Saban.doogsinparadise said:I'll let it play out, but I don't think you can win a natty with Brownsocks.
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I see I've riled up the Doogs this morning.
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In a bored full of trolls, it's amazing they didn't spot the wwooosssshhhh.doogsinparadise said:I see I've riled up the Doogs this morning.
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Oh it's not a whoosh. I still hate that little fucker, but people are taking it way too seriously.
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Is this an attempt at getting the faggot of the week award?doogsinparadise said:
He's the fourth best qb in the conference.dnc said:Browning's worst game of the season and he completed 60% of his passes for 9.5 yards per attempt, two scores and a pick.
He wasn't at his best but he wasn't close to bad.
He's the best QB we've had since Tui and the best QB in the nation who doesn't play in the ACC.
He sucks.
If so, congratulations.
If not, go kill yourself for being such a fucking goat. -
Jesus. Head back to Dawgman if you're going to make posts like that.Baseman said:
Chinsightful. TW, by virtue of today, is a PAC-12 contender too.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I guess Darnold is pretty good. I haven't seen him much but I heard and watched a little of the AZ-USC gayme. Falk is obvioiusly good but he's a system qb. People said BJ Simmons and @KkkliffKkklingsbury were good (also Leach QB's) too. Browning is definitely an all-Pac 12 contender right now though.
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Russell Wilson threw a pick to a Saint LB and he kind of telegraphed it. It doesn't mean he sucks. He's still a top five NFL QB.
If Browning sucks against SC and another team, throws 7 picks over the last four games, and the team ends up 10-3 and in the Holiday Bowl against Baylor or something, yeah, we overrated him.
He's also still a true sophomore. Doogness alert, but until five or ten years ago, the expectations weren't sky high for true sophomores. They didn't win Heismans anyway. They were expected to be competent and maybe pretty good, but not the best quarterback in the country or even conference in most cases. He's still learning and improving.
