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He threw 20 times and we played like shit most of the day on offense... 25-30 is the money range imo.doogsinparadise said:
What's been empirically proven this year is that the team does better when Jake doesn't have to throw more than 20-22 times per game. That's not the mark of a transcendent qb. His interception today happened because he stared down his receiver, and he's still shitting his pants against the blitz.koopdog said:
I honestly believe if he's not now, he will be. His development is off the charts. Put that together with his competitive streak and his accuracy which is empirical, and his ability to evade the pocket rush.....yes. And his ability to look off the defense. A true Sophomore. I'm a doog for him like I was for Peterman. I get that. But I'm right.doogsinparadise said:
We must not be watching the same game. He's alright, certainly in the top 15 in the country. But elite? Idk man.koopdog said:
Brother, I don't know, because he hasn't been put in that position yet. I think he's really, really, really good. I'll go with Browning. Look at the quantum leap in his development since last year. Next year? We'll see. We are a year ahead of what I thought would happen.doogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers.
I get that it's exciting to have an above average qb after 15 years, but slow the man crushage down a little bit.
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If Falk or Darnold played for UW you'd find some reason to shit on them as well HTHdoogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers. -
It's completely FS to use 1 pick as reason why a QB is overrated. Sure, he stared down the receiver. But if that was normal for him he'd have a hell of a lot more picks than his current 3 after 8 games. Using an extreme outlier as evidence to bolster your argument is disingenuous and just dumb. Guy has 28 touchdowns and 3 picks. You don't get a 9+/1 TD/INT ratio staring down receivers consistently.doogsinparadise said:
What's been empirically proven this year is that the team does better when Jake doesn't have to throw more than 20-22 times per game. That's not the mark of a transcendent qb. His interception today happened because he stared down his receiver, and he's still shitting his pants against the blitz.koopdog said:
I honestly believe if he's not now, he will be. His development is off the charts. Put that together with his competitive streak and his accuracy which is empirical, and his ability to evade the pocket rush.....yes. And his ability to look off the defense. A true Sophomore. I'm a doog for him like I was for Peterman. I get that. But I'm right.doogsinparadise said:
We must not be watching the same game. He's alright, certainly in the top 15 in the country. But elite? Idk man.koopdog said:
Brother, I don't know, because he hasn't been put in that position yet. I think he's really, really, really good. I'll go with Browning. Look at the quantum leap in his development since last year. Next year? We'll see. We are a year ahead of what I thought would happen.doogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers.
I get that it's exciting to have an above average qb after 15 years, but slow the man crushage down a little bit.
For fuck's sake, dude didn't have his best game today. But he's a true sophomore and balling out. It's ridiculous. I swear if Andrew Luck played at UW, some of you fucks would complain that Tom Brady is better. So, say some ACC QBs in fact are better than him. What does that change? He's still our quarterback and will likely only get better. Who fucking cares if Watson as an upperclassman is a little better? It's irrelevant and has nothing to do with Brownnose being good or not. -
Water is wet until it's not.doogsinparadise said:I'll let it play out, but I don't think you can win a natty with Brownsocks.
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Tom Brady is better and has four Super Bowl ringsDugtheDoog said:
It's completely FS to use 1 pick as reason why a QB is overrated. Sure, he stared down the receiver. But if that was normal for him he'd have a hell of a lot more picks than his current 3 after 8 games. Using an extreme outlier as evidence to bolster your argument is disingenuous and just dumb. Guy has 28 touchdowns and 3 picks. You don't get a 9+/1 TD/INT ratio staring down receivers consistently.doogsinparadise said:
What's been empirically proven this year is that the team does better when Jake doesn't have to throw more than 20-22 times per game. That's not the mark of a transcendent qb. His interception today happened because he stared down his receiver, and he's still shitting his pants against the blitz.koopdog said:
I honestly believe if he's not now, he will be. His development is off the charts. Put that together with his competitive streak and his accuracy which is empirical, and his ability to evade the pocket rush.....yes. And his ability to look off the defense. A true Sophomore. I'm a doog for him like I was for Peterman. I get that. But I'm right.doogsinparadise said:
We must not be watching the same game. He's alright, certainly in the top 15 in the country. But elite? Idk man.koopdog said:
Brother, I don't know, because he hasn't been put in that position yet. I think he's really, really, really good. I'll go with Browning. Look at the quantum leap in his development since last year. Next year? We'll see. We are a year ahead of what I thought would happen.doogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers.
I get that it's exciting to have an above average qb after 15 years, but slow the man crushage down a little bit.
For fuck's sake, dude didn't have his best game today. But he's a true sophomore and balling out. It's ridiculous. I swear if Andrew Luck played at UW, some of you fucks would complain that Tom Brady is better. So, say some ACC QBs in fact are better than him. What does that change? He's still our quarterback and will likely only get better. Who fucking cares if Watson as an upperclassman is a little better? It's irrelevant and has nothing to do with Brownnose being good or not. -
I thought Jake made some nice plays. My favorite was the floater to Sample when he was scrambling to his left on 3rd down deep on our end of the field.
I didn't like watching Jake get sacked a few times later in the game, because he's been great at extending plays and/or getting rid of the ball to avoid them. I saw one play where he was sacked while it appeared that all his receivers ran long-developing routes on either side of the field. A checkdown option would have at least given him the chance to throw the football away. But, I get that we're not a checkdown, play-it-safe type of offense. We want big, explosive plays. So, maybe we have to just accept that and tell the offensive line to quit fucking up. I don't know. I'm not an expert, nor do I pretend to be one by making you pay for "premium content" to read my uninformed opinions.
I'm sure it's already been mentioned (I didn't read all 4 pages of posts...even though, knowing this board, it probably wouldn't take much time considering that half of them are probably pictures, gifs, and short, inside-joke phrase posts that have been posted thousands of times over on this board, and will hopefully continue to be re-posted because they never get old or tiring as evidenced by the up-votes and chincredibles they will forever receive), but we were running the ball pretty well, which limited Browning's opportunity to put up Heisman-worthy stats. He still averaged over 9+ yards per attempt, and the only mistake I can recall him making was the interception. -
And I'm not saying the OP is wrong, but we didn't need Jake to be our savior today, which means this game isn't indicative of his ability to pull through when we absolutely need him to.
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28-3 TD/INT ratio? Yeah? Well how many Super Bowls has he won? He's never even made the pro bowl!11!!11!! He wouldn't even start for the Patriots. Guy sucks.Baseman said:
Tom Brady is better and has four Super Bowl ringsDugtheDoog said:
It's completely FS to use 1 pick as reason why a QB is overrated. Sure, he stared down the receiver. But if that was normal for him he'd have a hell of a lot more picks than his current 3 after 8 games. Using an extreme outlier as evidence to bolster your argument is disingenuous and just dumb. Guy has 28 touchdowns and 3 picks. You don't get a 9+/1 TD/INT ratio staring down receivers consistently.doogsinparadise said:
What's been empirically proven this year is that the team does better when Jake doesn't have to throw more than 20-22 times per game. That's not the mark of a transcendent qb. His interception today happened because he stared down his receiver, and he's still shitting his pants against the blitz.koopdog said:
I honestly believe if he's not now, he will be. His development is off the charts. Put that together with his competitive streak and his accuracy which is empirical, and his ability to evade the pocket rush.....yes. And his ability to look off the defense. A true Sophomore. I'm a doog for him like I was for Peterman. I get that. But I'm right.doogsinparadise said:
We must not be watching the same game. He's alright, certainly in the top 15 in the country. But elite? Idk man.koopdog said:
Brother, I don't know, because he hasn't been put in that position yet. I think he's really, really, really good. I'll go with Browning. Look at the quantum leap in his development since last year. Next year? We'll see. We are a year ahead of what I thought would happen.doogsinparadise said:
@koopdogPurpleThrobber said:
He's in the top three in the State of Washington.doogsinparadise said:Ok, fine. Top three
But I have a hard time saying he's the best qb in the conference when he struggles with the blitz against a mediocre Utah squad. That was a pretty bad pick, and unlike some of the other guys he doesn't have the ability to will the team to a win by himself.
Haven't seen CWU play.
Put UW in the Louisville Clemson game and tell me that Browning makes the plays that Watson and Jackson made to keep their teams in the game.
I would even take Falk over him. Probably Darnold, despite the turnovers.
I get that it's exciting to have an above average qb after 15 years, but slow the man crushage down a little bit.
For fuck's sake, dude didn't have his best game today. But he's a true sophomore and balling out. It's ridiculous. I swear if Andrew Luck played at UW, some of you fucks would complain that Tom Brady is better. So, say some ACC QBs in fact are better than him. What does that change? He's still our quarterback and will likely only get better. Who fucking cares if Watson as an upperclassman is a little better? It's irrelevant and has nothing to do with Brownnose being good or not. -
This is a strange thread.
Y'all are bitching about Browning when he threw for 9.3 yards per attempt.
There are eight teams in the entire damn nation averaging more than 9.3 ypa on the season. Utah on the road might, just might, be a tougher than average matchup.
Yeah he threw a dumb pick. That will happen. Yawn. Wake me up when he is throwing more than one every 2-3 games.
