Pete lauds his OL Coach.

In answering the questions, Pete was obviously directing his comments toward some specific people.
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I think Strausser is a good OL coach. I think he sucks as a recruiter. In moast programs good coaches who can't recruit get picked up by good regional recruiters, but in Pete's program it seems if you can't recruit your position no one does. Not sure what the solution is, but Strausser's clearly done good work with the talent at hand.
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Well, if the helicopter ride is any indication, my sense is that Pete is personally trying to assist with OL recruiting.dnc said:I think Strausser is a good OL coach. I think he sucks as a recruiter. In moast programs good coaches who can't recruit get picked up by good regional recruiters, but in Pete's program it seems if you can't recruit your position no one does. Not sure what the solution is, but Strausser's clearly done good work with the talent at hand.
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Pretty sure that was directed at Fozzy.
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Glad the staff hasn't given up.Dennis_DeYoung said:Pretty sure that was directed at Fozzy.
It might be too little too late, but this season couldn't have possibly broken better to give us a shot at him. -
Dennis_DeYoung said:
Pretty sure that was directed at me.
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Ya think?Dennis_DeYoung said:Pretty sure that was directed at Fozzy.
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Also, I think we need to include a trigger warning for the pussies of @RoadDawg55 and others that have struggled to adjust to the idea that football and recruiting sometimes overlap.
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Take it easy man, he is still coming to grips with being Asian.Dennis_DeYoung said:Also, I think we need to include a trigger warning for the pussies of @RoadDawg55 and others that have struggled to adjust to the idea that football and recruiting sometimes overlap.
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Yeah but assistants recruit areas, not what they coach. Isn't that recruiting 101? Pete is the closer. Stausser or whatever (if we win the natty I'll learn their names) has coached up some bags of shit. If we want better recruits the whole staff and the closer have to do it
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I thought that was the case too, but it seems like every DB recruit we've gotten has been Jimmy Lake's responsibility, and likewise with other recruits (Hamdan comes in and all of a sudden we can recruit WR's).RaceBannon said:Yeah but assistants recruit areas, not what they coach. Isn't that recruiting 101? Pete is the closer. Stausser or whatever (if we win the natty I'll learn their names) has coached up some bags of shit. If we want better recruits the whole staff and the closer have to do it
It seems the position coach has more to do with positional recruiting in Pete's program than the traditional college model.
Or maybe it's classic confirmation bias? -
The regional model is definitely what we heard about under Sark, mainly as it related to fucking disasters (instate whiffs being due to Cox, Cozzeto didn't bring in OLs, but maybe helped get a couple AZ kids). Maybe it was true, maybe it was BS, but they were disasters either way.dnc said:
I thought that was the case too, but it seems like every DB recruit we've gotten has been Jimmy Lake's responsibility, and likewise with other recruits (Hamdan comes in and all of a sudden we can recruit WR's).RaceBannon said:Yeah but assistants recruit areas, not what they coach. Isn't that recruiting 101? Pete is the closer. Stausser or whatever (if we win the natty I'll learn their names) has coached up some bags of shit. If we want better recruits the whole staff and the closer have to do it
It seems the position coach has more to do with positional recruiting in Pete's program than the traditional college model.
Or maybe it's classic confirmation bias?
The difference now is that I am going to be legitimately shocked by any disasters. -
Recruiting matters?Dennis_DeYoung said:Also, I think we need to include a trigger warning for the pussies of @RoadDawg55 and others that have struggled to adjust to the idea that football and recruiting sometimes overlap.
I'm as big of fence guy as there is, but I won't worry about a teen boi. The OL looks fine. They all return next year except Eldrenkamp. Sarrell will come or he won't. Either way it's not going to be interesting. -
Yes.RoadDawg55 said:
Recruiting matters?Dennis_DeYoung said:Also, I think we need to include a trigger warning for the pussies of @RoadDawg55 and others that have struggled to adjust to the idea that football and recruiting sometimes overlap.
I'm as big of fence guy as there is, but I won't worry about a teen boi. The OL looks fine. They all return next year except Eldrenkamp. Sarrell will come or he won't. Either way it's not going to be interesting.
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I tend to agree with road dawg espcially at the college level. A guy like Nick Harris who is super athletic is at an advantage over a lesser athlete of course. Which makes him have a higher ceiling and easier to coach based on that fact. So if they can get over looked athletic as hell guys, watch out because they can coach. Some of these higher rated kids are so unathletic but they are rated highly because they are huge. I think being a good OL is more important than being a "great recruiter". You recruit based on special attributes and coach them up from there, not on stars.
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Disagree.RaceBannon said:Yeah but assistants recruit areas, not what they coach. Isn't that recruiting 101? Pete is the closer. Stausser or whatever (if we win the natty I'll learn their names) has coached up some bags of shit. If we want better recruits the whole staff and the closer have to do it
In the social media age 'territories' have become secondary. People primarily recruit the kids at their position. Straußer has been horrible at it. It's nice that he's coached up kids, but they aren't POSes. Adams and McGary were top 300 kids, Eldrenkamp was talented and Coleman Shelton is only okay.
Further, we only have 2 deep in the line right now because of bizarre recruiting strategies and failings. I prefer to be AT LEAST 3 deep at every position.
If we had 2 line injuries for one game, we would be playing walk-ons or people who are god awful. -
Thanks DAWG fan
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Washington used the regional model back to James if not earlier. Coaches would focus on particular areas so they could build relationships with the high school coaches in those areas. The closer assistant (Bobby Hauck under Nuehiesel for example) or head coach would step when needed and become primary contact.AIRWOLF said:The regional model is definitely what we heard about under Sark, mainly as it related to fucking disasters (instate whiffs being due to Cox, Cozzeto didn't bring in OLs, but maybe helped get a couple AZ kids). Maybe it was true, maybe it was BS, but they were disasters either way.
The difference now is that I am going to be legitimately shocked by any disasters. -
FYI: There's a lot of creepy-pedo phrasing in this thread. Huge, super-athletic, kids, 3 deep...
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I'm pretty sure our coaches are still assigned to regions. The position coaches still play an equal role though.
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Duh.bananasnblondes said:I'm pretty sure our coaches are still assigned to regions. The position coaches still play an equal role though.
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I need to see some beef that doesn't look like they're in the Aryan Brotherhood.
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You faggoty fucks and your recruiting rankings. Rapp was a 3 star. Harris was a 2 star. Our second string OL is pancaking Oregon's starters.
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I dontdoogsinparadise said:I need to see some beef that doesn't look like they're in the Aryan Brotherhood.
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Lighten up Adolf.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I dontdoogsinparadise said:I need to see some beef that doesn't look like they're in the Aryan Brotherhood.
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Everyone here wants a 5 star in state tackle.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Disagree.RaceBannon said:Yeah but assistants recruit areas, not what they coach. Isn't that recruiting 101? Pete is the closer. Stausser or whatever (if we win the natty I'll learn their names) has coached up some bags of shit. If we want better recruits the whole staff and the closer have to do it
In the social media age 'territories' have become secondary. People primarily recruit the kids at their position. Straußer has been horrible at it. It's nice that he's coached up kids, but they aren't POSes. Adams and McGary were top 300 kids, Eldrenkamp was talented and Coleman Shelton is only okay.
Further, we only have 2 deep in the line right now because of bizarre recruiting strategies and failings. I prefer to be AT LEAST 3 deep at every position.
If we had 2 line injuries for one game, we would be playing walk-ons or people who are god awful.
If we had two injuries at any position we would be playing some bums. I would rather have any two OL hurt (even Adams and McGary) than Qualls and Gaines... Or Victor and Bierria. Or probably even Ross and Pettis.
I bitched about Garnett and Banner because the team and OL sucked. The team is undefefeated and the OL is doing well now. Pete is taking a helicopter to the kid's game. He has an undefeated team. If Sarrell doesn't want to come here, fuck him.
I would rather have a coach like Strausser who is getting results than Klemm. Bitching about the OL coach of the best OL we have had in years is fucking stupid. -
AGAIN - why the fuck would I want a coach that can recruit but can't coach?RoadDawg55 said:
Everyone here wants a 5 star in state tackle.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Disagree.RaceBannon said:Yeah but assistants recruit areas, not what they coach. Isn't that recruiting 101? Pete is the closer. Stausser or whatever (if we win the natty I'll learn their names) has coached up some bags of shit. If we want better recruits the whole staff and the closer have to do it
In the social media age 'territories' have become secondary. People primarily recruit the kids at their position. Straußer has been horrible at it. It's nice that he's coached up kids, but they aren't POSes. Adams and McGary were top 300 kids, Eldrenkamp was talented and Coleman Shelton is only okay.
Further, we only have 2 deep in the line right now because of bizarre recruiting strategies and failings. I prefer to be AT LEAST 3 deep at every position.
If we had 2 line injuries for one game, we would be playing walk-ons or people who are god awful.
If we had two injuries at any position we would be playing some bums. I would rather have any two OL hurt (even Adams and McGary) than Qualls and Gaines... Or Victor and Bierria. Or probably even Ross and Pettis.
I bitched about Garnett and Banner because the team and OL sucked. The team is undefefeated and the OL is doing well now. Pete is taking a helicopter to the kid's game. He has an undefeated team. If Sarrell doesn't want to come here, fuck him.
I would rather have a coach like Strausser who is getting results than Klemm. Bitching about the OL coach of the best OL we have had in years is fucking stupid.
Here's a novel fucking idea: I WANT A COACH THAT CAN DO BOTH!!! WHOA!?!?!?
Arguing that 'whoever we get is going to be fine' is dumb. Our OL right now is great because we have two highly rated kids as tackles and a really good 'lifeblood' type player in Eldrenkamp.
We need coaches at ALL positions that can coach and recruit. This is just low standards doog bullshit. -
So, you've got a whopping sample size of two there. You must be right. I'm sure no one has ever done the work to show that higher rankings are correlated with better performance.PostGameOrangeSlices said:You faggoty fucks and your recruiting rankings. Rapp was a 3 star. Harris was a 2 star. Our second string OL is pancaking Oregon's starters.
STFU
I'm also sure that Pete's first choices are NEVER the guys who are highly ranked guys. You never see us offer those guys first, then move down our list to guys who are typically lower rated. That never happens.
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The OL is good this year and will be good next year. But I should worry about 2018 when we are actually good in 2016?Dennis_DeYoung said:
AGAIN - why the fuck would I want a coach that can recruit but can't coach?RoadDawg55 said:
Everyone here wants a 5 star in state tackle.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Disagree.RaceBannon said:Yeah but assistants recruit areas, not what they coach. Isn't that recruiting 101? Pete is the closer. Stausser or whatever (if we win the natty I'll learn their names) has coached up some bags of shit. If we want better recruits the whole staff and the closer have to do it
In the social media age 'territories' have become secondary. People primarily recruit the kids at their position. Straußer has been horrible at it. It's nice that he's coached up kids, but they aren't POSes. Adams and McGary were top 300 kids, Eldrenkamp was talented and Coleman Shelton is only okay.
Further, we only have 2 deep in the line right now because of bizarre recruiting strategies and failings. I prefer to be AT LEAST 3 deep at every position.
If we had 2 line injuries for one game, we would be playing walk-ons or people who are god awful.
If we had two injuries at any position we would be playing some bums. I would rather have any two OL hurt (even Adams and McGary) than Qualls and Gaines... Or Victor and Bierria. Or probably even Ross and Pettis.
I bitched about Garnett and Banner because the team and OL sucked. The team is undefefeated and the OL is doing well now. Pete is taking a helicopter to the kid's game. He has an undefeated team. If Sarrell doesn't want to come here, fuck him.
I would rather have a coach like Strausser who is getting results than Klemm. Bitching about the OL coach of the best OL we have had in years is fucking stupid.
Here's a novel fucking idea: I WANT A COACH THAT CAN DO BOTH!!! WHOA!?!?!?
Arguing that 'whoever we get is going to be fine' is dumb. Our OL right now is great because we have two highly rated kids as tackles and a really good 'lifeblood' type player in Eldrenkamp.
We need coaches at ALL positions that can coach and recruit. This is just low standards doog bullshit. -
Its still assigned by region. Unless you're a Texas team(in which case like 90% of your team comes from in-state) recruiting by position is incredibly inefficient.dnc said:
I thought that was the case too, but it seems like every DB recruit we've gotten has been Jimmy Lake's responsibility, and likewise with other recruits (Hamdan comes in and all of a sudden we can recruit WR's).RaceBannon said:Yeah but assistants recruit areas, not what they coach. Isn't that recruiting 101? Pete is the closer. Stausser or whatever (if we win the natty I'll learn their names) has coached up some bags of shit. If we want better recruits the whole staff and the closer have to do it
It seems the position coach has more to do with positional recruiting in Pete's program than the traditional college model.
Or maybe it's classic confirmation bias? -
Get a fucking avatar or LEAVE!KobeStan said:
Its still assigned by region. Unless you're a Texas team(in which case like 90% of your team comes from in-state) recruiting by position is incredibly inefficient.dnc said:
I thought that was the case too, but it seems like every DB recruit we've gotten has been Jimmy Lake's responsibility, and likewise with other recruits (Hamdan comes in and all of a sudden we can recruit WR's).RaceBannon said:Yeah but assistants recruit areas, not what they coach. Isn't that recruiting 101? Pete is the closer. Stausser or whatever (if we win the natty I'll learn their names) has coached up some bags of shit. If we want better recruits the whole staff and the closer have to do it
It seems the position coach has more to do with positional recruiting in Pete's program than the traditional college model.
Or maybe it's classic confirmation bias?