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  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

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    *-Premium change is statistically different from previous period shown.


    Nothings change here.
    That's fine, just compare '04-'08 to '09-14.


    Average premium increases more than halved from 1999-2004 - 2004-2009, but then only dropped by 24% from 2004-2009 - 2009-2014.

    When you consider the trend, the numbers in that chart suggest that the ACA has indeed increased the cost of premiums, which in my mind has no doubt happened. I mean, we're covering more people, and we're covering people who are extremely costly to cover...obviously that's going to impact the price of premiums.

    We are talking about percentage increases, no one is saying premiums didn't increase. Guessing you weren't a calculus major.
    That's fine. I realize I'm not discussing exactly what you two were arguing. I just wanted to use your chart to point out that the ACA has made premium costs higher than they would have been had the ACA not been passed. You know, so nobody gets the wrong idea.
    That chart is a bit dishonest as well. It doesn't factor in the rapid rise in deductibles and out of pocket maximums. That slight of hand was used to disguise the true rise in premium costs. If you compare premiums for plans people actually want, the rise in premiums has been stunningly unsustainable, which is contributing to the "why" so many for profit and "not for profit" carriers have pulled out of the exchanges.
    Yup. It's like having a chart that shows the price of a box of Triscuits (or Wheat Thins if you're one of those fags) over time, without taking into consideration the fact that the box size has decreased.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    And what really pisses me off about the ACA is that "It won't make your health insurance cost more" and even "It's going to reduce the cost of insurance" were reasons constantly stated as why we should be okay with it, and now those same people (at least the ones who realize that costs have gone up) are saying "well, yeah, but come on it's worth it, dude."
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    And what really pisses me off about the ACA is that "It won't make your health insurance cost more" and even "It's going to reduce the cost of insurance" were reasons constantly stated as why we should be okay with it, and now those same people (at least the ones who realize that costs have gone up) are saying "well, yeah, but come on it's worth it, dude."

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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

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    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    And what really pisses me off about the ACA is that "It won't make your health insurance cost more" and even "It's going to reduce the cost of insurance" were reasons constantly stated as why we should be okay with it, and now those same people (at least the ones who realize that costs have gone up) are saying "well, yeah, but come on it's worth it, dude."

    We were all just Lucky Obama ramrodded this act through Congress at all.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club

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    Mods? Better delete the thread
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

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    It would be wrong for everyone to quote this past in their responses.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Derek must be busy today
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,063
    edited August 2016

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    More harlots, less honda.

  • dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
    Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
    Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.
    I thought we moved past healthcare?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
    Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.
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  • WeAreAFatLesboSchool
    WeAreAFatLesboSchool Guest Posts: 736
    edited August 2016

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
    Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.
    I thought we moved past healthcare?
    Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
    Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.
    I thought we moved past healthcare?
    Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.

    image

  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
    Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.
    I understand perfectly what's going on.

    I was clowning Sledog and you were being a drippy cunt.

    Was there somethingabout 'fuck yourself ' that you didn't understand?
  • dflea said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
    Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.
    I understand perfectly what's going on.

    I was clowning Sledog and you were being a drippy cunt.

    Was there somethingabout 'fuck yourself ' that you didn't understand?
    That was bad. Are you knew?
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
    Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.
    I thought we moved past healthcare?
    Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.
    What was the lie, little crying bitch baby?

    That you're being a drippy cunt?

    7-11?
  • WeAreAFatLesboSchool
    WeAreAFatLesboSchool Guest Posts: 736
    edited August 2016
    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
    Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.
    I thought we moved past healthcare?
    Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.
    What was the lie, little crying bitch baby?

    That you're being a drippy cunt?

    7-11?
    Maybe it wasn't a lie. Maybe you're just too much of a dumbfuck to understand the reality of it. That's probably it. I'm sorry for they lie comment. It's not nice to accuse dumbshits of lying. Dumbshit. Go catch a fish ya stupid mother fucker.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
    Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.
    I thought we moved past healthcare?
    Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.
    What was the lie, little crying bitch baby?

    That you're being a drippy cunt?

    7-11?
    Maybe it wasn't a lie. Maybe you're just too much of a dumbfuck to understand the reality of it. That's probably it. I'm sorry for they lie comment. It's not nice to accuse dumbshits of lying. Dumbshit. Go catch a fish ya stupid mother fucker.
    Ok!
  • dflea said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:



    Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......

    Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.

    image
    From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.
    That's settles it then.

    Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?

    Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
    Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.
    No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.
    Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.
    I thought we moved past healthcare?
    Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.
    What was the lie, little crying bitch baby?

    That you're being a drippy cunt?

    7-11?
    Maybe it wasn't a lie. Maybe you're just too much of a dumbfuck to understand the reality of it. That's probably it. I'm sorry for they lie comment. It's not nice to accuse dumbshits of lying. Dumbshit. Go catch a fish ya stupid mother fucker.
    Ok!
    Haha. You got it. I'm relived you did. You're Ok! In my book. Wanna cyber?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    I'm glad the conservatives have offered up such a great alternative to Obamacare. So, let just nuke the bill and go back to unregulated insurance companies fucking everyone. I hope you get AIDS and your insurance company drops you so you die of bankruptcy.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    2001400ex said:

    I'm glad the conservatives have offered up such a great alternative to Obamacare. So, let just nuke the bill and go back to unregulated insurance companies fucking everyone. I hope you get AIDS and your insurance company drops you so you die of bankruptcy.

    I offered up an ideal alternative.

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