Aetna Ditching 70% Obamacare Business
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Yup. It's like having a chart that shows the price of a box of Triscuits (or Wheat Thins if you're one of those fags) over time, without taking into consideration the fact that the box size has decreased.Southerndawg said:
That chart is a bit dishonest as well. It doesn't factor in the rapid rise in deductibles and out of pocket maximums. That slight of hand was used to disguise the true rise in premium costs. If you compare premiums for plans people actually want, the rise in premiums has been stunningly unsustainable, which is contributing to the "why" so many for profit and "not for profit" carriers have pulled out of the exchanges.Fenderbender123 said:
That's fine. I realize I'm not discussing exactly what you two were arguing. I just wanted to use your chart to point out that the ACA has made premium costs higher than they would have been had the ACA not been passed. You know, so nobody gets the wrong idea.UWhuskytskeet said:
We are talking about percentage increases, no one is saying premiums didn't increase. Guessing you weren't a calculus major.Fenderbender123 said:UWhuskytskeet said:
That's fine, just compare '04-'08 to '09-14.salemcoog said:
*-Premium change is statistically different from previous period shown.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Nothings change here.Fenderbender123 said:
Average premium increases more than halved from 1999-2004 - 2004-2009, but then only dropped by 24% from 2004-2009 - 2009-2014.
When you consider the trend, the numbers in that chart suggest that the ACA has indeed increased the cost of premiums, which in my mind has no doubt happened. I mean, we're covering more people, and we're covering people who are extremely costly to cover...obviously that's going to impact the price of premiums. -
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And what really pisses me off about the ACA is that "It won't make your health insurance cost more" and even "It's going to reduce the cost of insurance" were reasons constantly stated as why we should be okay with it, and now those same people (at least the ones who realize that costs have gone up) are saying "well, yeah, but come on it's worth it, dude."
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Fenderbender123 said:
And what really pisses me off about the ACA is that "It won't make your health insurance cost more" and even "It's going to reduce the cost of insurance" were reasons constantly stated as why we should be okay with it, and now those same people (at least the ones who realize that costs have gone up) are saying "well, yeah, but come on it's worth it, dude."
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No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS. -
dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS. -
We were all just Lucky Obama ramrodded this act through Congress at all.Fenderbender123 said:And what really pisses me off about the ACA is that "It won't make your health insurance cost more" and even "It's going to reduce the cost of insurance" were reasons constantly stated as why we should be okay with it, and now those same people (at least the ones who realize that costs have gone up) are saying "well, yeah, but come on it's worth it, dude."
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salemcoog said:
We were all just Lucky Obama ramrodded this act through Congress at all.Fenderbender123 said:And what really pisses me off about the ACA is that "It won't make your health insurance cost more" and even "It's going to reduce the cost of insurance" were reasons constantly stated as why we should be okay with it, and now those same people (at least the ones who realize that costs have gone up) are saying "well, yeah, but come on it's worth it, dude."
