Aetna Ditching 70% Obamacare Business
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Yup. It's like having a chart that shows the price of a box of Triscuits (or Wheat Thins if you're one of those fags) over time, without taking into consideration the fact that the box size has decreased.Southerndawg said:
That chart is a bit dishonest as well. It doesn't factor in the rapid rise in deductibles and out of pocket maximums. That slight of hand was used to disguise the true rise in premium costs. If you compare premiums for plans people actually want, the rise in premiums has been stunningly unsustainable, which is contributing to the "why" so many for profit and "not for profit" carriers have pulled out of the exchanges.Fenderbender123 said:
That's fine. I realize I'm not discussing exactly what you two were arguing. I just wanted to use your chart to point out that the ACA has made premium costs higher than they would have been had the ACA not been passed. You know, so nobody gets the wrong idea.UWhuskytskeet said:
We are talking about percentage increases, no one is saying premiums didn't increase. Guessing you weren't a calculus major.Fenderbender123 said:UWhuskytskeet said:
That's fine, just compare '04-'08 to '09-14.salemcoog said:
*-Premium change is statistically different from previous period shown.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Nothings change here.Fenderbender123 said:
Average premium increases more than halved from 1999-2004 - 2004-2009, but then only dropped by 24% from 2004-2009 - 2009-2014.
When you consider the trend, the numbers in that chart suggest that the ACA has indeed increased the cost of premiums, which in my mind has no doubt happened. I mean, we're covering more people, and we're covering people who are extremely costly to cover...obviously that's going to impact the price of premiums. -
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RaceBannon said:
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And what really pisses me off about the ACA is that "It won't make your health insurance cost more" and even "It's going to reduce the cost of insurance" were reasons constantly stated as why we should be okay with it, and now those same people (at least the ones who realize that costs have gone up) are saying "well, yeah, but come on it's worth it, dude."
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Fenderbender123 said:
And what really pisses me off about the ACA is that "It won't make your health insurance cost more" and even "It's going to reduce the cost of insurance" were reasons constantly stated as why we should be okay with it, and now those same people (at least the ones who realize that costs have gone up) are saying "well, yeah, but come on it's worth it, dude."
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No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS. -
dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS. -
We were all just Lucky Obama ramrodded this act through Congress at all.Fenderbender123 said:And what really pisses me off about the ACA is that "It won't make your health insurance cost more" and even "It's going to reduce the cost of insurance" were reasons constantly stated as why we should be okay with it, and now those same people (at least the ones who realize that costs have gone up) are saying "well, yeah, but come on it's worth it, dude."
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salemcoog said:
We were all just Lucky Obama ramrodded this act through Congress at all.Fenderbender123 said:And what really pisses me off about the ACA is that "It won't make your health insurance cost more" and even "It's going to reduce the cost of insurance" were reasons constantly stated as why we should be okay with it, and now those same people (at least the ones who realize that costs have gone up) are saying "well, yeah, but come on it's worth it, dude."
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Mods? Better delete the threadTierbsHsotBoobs said: -
It would be wrong for everyone to quote this past in their responses.TierbsHsotBoobs said: -
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Derek must be busy today
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Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS. -
I thought we moved past healthcare?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS. -
WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS. -
Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.greenblood said:
I thought we moved past healthcare?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
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WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.greenblood said:
I thought we moved past healthcare?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.TierbsHsotBoobs said: -
I understand perfectly what's going on.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
I was clowning Sledog and you were being a drippy cunt.
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That was bad. Are you knew?dflea said:
I understand perfectly what's going on.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
I was clowning Sledog and you were being a drippy cunt.
Was there somethingabout 'fuck yourself ' that you didn't understand? -
What was the lie, little crying bitch baby?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.greenblood said:
I thought we moved past healthcare?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
That you're being a drippy cunt?
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Maybe it wasn't a lie. Maybe you're just too much of a dumbfuck to understand the reality of it. That's probably it. I'm sorry for they lie comment. It's not nice to accuse dumbshits of lying. Dumbshit. Go catch a fish ya stupid mother fucker.dflea said:
What was the lie, little crying bitch baby?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.greenblood said:
I thought we moved past healthcare?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
That you're being a drippy cunt?
7-11? -
Ok!WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Maybe it wasn't a lie. Maybe you're just too much of a dumbfuck to understand the reality of it. That's probably it. I'm sorry for they lie comment. It's not nice to accuse dumbshits of lying. Dumbshit. Go catch a fish ya stupid mother fucker.dflea said:
What was the lie, little crying bitch baby?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.greenblood said:
I thought we moved past healthcare?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
That you're being a drippy cunt?
7-11? -
Haha. You got it. I'm relived you did. You're Ok! In my book. Wanna cyber?dflea said:
Ok!WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Maybe it wasn't a lie. Maybe you're just too much of a dumbfuck to understand the reality of it. That's probably it. I'm sorry for they lie comment. It's not nice to accuse dumbshits of lying. Dumbshit. Go catch a fish ya stupid mother fucker.dflea said:
What was the lie, little crying bitch baby?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Maybe. But I was referring to this dumbfuck dropping some lies. As he and his buddies Hondo and seaplane do. That's some sweet company to keep flea.greenblood said:
I thought we moved past healthcare?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Sounds like you care. Dipfuck who doesn't understand what's going on.dflea said:
No. And I didn't factor in your sandy vagina, either, so fuck yourself.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Did you factor in increased deductibles and copays? That's what I thought. Dipfuck.dflea said:
That's settles it then.Sledog said:
From my fucking bill is where I get the info! Company says it's due to ObaMao Care costs being higher.UWhuskytskeet said:
Not sure where you're getting 13% for this year, but premium increases have slowed since Obamacare. They've always grown every year, Obamacare or not.Sledog said:
Yeah its worked great under ObaMao Care! Only a 13% increase in premiums this year.......
Did your company get off the gold standard in 1933, too?
Your insurer probably needed that 13% to cover the costs of your full blown AIDS.
That you're being a drippy cunt?
7-11? -
I'm glad the conservatives have offered up such a great alternative to Obamacare. So, let just nuke the bill and go back to unregulated insurance companies fucking everyone. I hope you get AIDS and your insurance company drops you so you die of bankruptcy.
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I offered up an ideal alternative.2001400ex said:I'm glad the conservatives have offered up such a great alternative to Obamacare. So, let just nuke the bill and go back to unregulated insurance companies fucking everyone. I hope you get AIDS and your insurance company drops you so you die of bankruptcy.
TierbsHsotBoobs said: