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Snitches get stiches.ThomasFremont said:
But then one of his own guys snitched on him and got him killed.PurpleThrobber said:
Jesus just needed more time to get his own guys in there.ThomasFremont said:
So god brought in a new scheme and a new attitude?PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Supreme.
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Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.
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I see we both listened to Carolla this morning. Most cathartic.koopdog said:
Source? You're a fucking idiot as usual. I have lived among these folk in 4 different cuntries. If you call being misogynist to the point of beating and maiming, even killing a woman if she gazes on an infidel, throwing homos off of buildings, and having no intrinsic value for human life peaceful, you're the biggest dumbfuck that ever fucked.2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
It is not a religion of peace. At all. It is a religion of hate. Go ahead and marginalize the fringe Christians that mainstream Christianity disowns. Cool. I do too.
Imagine a Christian radical group in a Moslem Cuntry doing what these fucks are doing in ours. How would that be dealt with? With open border, cries for tolerance, and disarming the population? They're bullies no matter what you think.
If this country was a bully, we'd own Canada, Mexico, and the world except for China.
Fuck off and grow the fuck up.
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I"m not worried about the peaceful ones.
There's also way more violent Muslims than violent Christians, too. And it's not even close.
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The road to Damascus is lovely this time of yearPurpleJ said:Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.
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June is really the best time to visit the Middle East.ThomasFremont said:
The road to Damascus is lovely this time of yearPurpleJ said:Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.
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Just make sure you enjoy your "sodas" in a red cupPurpleJ said:
June is really the best time to visit the Middle East.ThomasFremont said:
The road to Damascus is lovely this time of yearPurpleJ said:Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.
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Be classy and keep your head if rival fans try to talk smack!ThomasFremont said:
Just make sure you enjoy your "sodas" in a red cupPurpleJ said:
June is really the best time to visit the Middle East.ThomasFremont said:
The road to Damascus is lovely this time of yearPurpleJ said:Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.
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I took a long walk through a large mosque in India close to Pakistan, was wearing a UW shirt too. But they made us take off our shoes and walk barefoot, was gross as fuck. It was in Ajmer, look it up on Google maps.PurpleJ said:Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.
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I heard a liberal cock jockey make a point that the vast majority of the US Army is Christian so everything should be construed as a religious war.PurpleJ said:
Wake me when the US Army is crucifying/beheading/blowing up people for not accepting Christ into their heart.2001400ex said:
It's almost as if there are fucked up people that use religion as a reason to murder others. America would never do that tho.PurpleJ said:It's almost as if radical islam is a bipartisan issue that doesn't get treated as such.
Oh wait.
L-O- fucking L. So is the vast majority of America. Interestingly, the LDS serve in the military in statistically skewed numbers. They're patriotic Americans. I hassled them my whole career in a good natured way but found them to be outstanding Soldiers. (We capitalize Soldier....just to let you know)
I had absolutely zero moslem Soldiers in my career. An as a Senior Field Grade I met and served with thousands and thousands.
We fight wars for a lot of reasons.... ending fascism, slavery, or to halt the spread of communism and Terrorism... even to secure the economic freedom of our people. Which is a fine reason IMHO. Back when Hearst and Roosevelt started the Spanish American war it was to prove that we had a cock. But.... we have NEVER started a war for Jesus. -
Thank you for sharing the testimony of your conversion with us!2001400ex said:
I took a long walk through a large mosque in India close to Pakistan, was wearing a UW shirt too. But they made us take off our shoes and walk barefoot, was gross as fuck. It was in Ajmer, look it up on Google maps.PurpleJ said:Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.
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I went to a game and their classless fans threw balloons full of piss and severed heads at us.PurpleJ said:
Be classy and keep your head if rival fans try to talk smack!ThomasFremont said:
Just make sure you enjoy your "sodas" in a red cupPurpleJ said:
June is really the best time to visit the Middle East.ThomasFremont said:
The road to Damascus is lovely this time of yearPurpleJ said:Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.
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He was especially on point this a.mGrundleStiltzkin said:
I see we both listened to Carolla this morning. Most cathartic.koopdog said:
Source? You're a fucking idiot as usual. I have lived among these folk in 4 different cuntries. If you call being misogynist to the point of beating and maiming, even killing a woman if she gazes on an infidel, throwing homos off of buildings, and having no intrinsic value for human life peaceful, you're the biggest dumbfuck that ever fucked.2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
It is not a religion of peace. At all. It is a religion of hate. Go ahead and marginalize the fringe Christians that mainstream Christianity disowns. Cool. I do too.
Imagine a Christian radical group in a Moslem Cuntry doing what these fucks are doing in ours. How would that be dealt with? With open border, cries for tolerance, and disarming the population? They're bullies no matter what you think.
If this country was a bully, we'd own Canada, Mexico, and the world except for China.
Fuck off and grow the fuck up.
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Did you enjoy the good natured ribbing?ThomasFremont said:
I went to a game and their classless fans threw balloons full of piss and severed heads at us.PurpleJ said:
Be classy and keep your head if rival fans try to talk smack!ThomasFremont said:
Just make sure you enjoy your "sodas" in a red cupPurpleJ said:
June is really the best time to visit the Middle East.ThomasFremont said:
The road to Damascus is lovely this time of yearPurpleJ said:Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.
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Is it possible you get dumber with every poast? I'm worried about you fren.2001400ex said:
It's almost as if there are fucked up people that use religion as a reason to murder others. America would never do that tho.PurpleJ said:It's almost as if radical islam is a bipartisan issue that doesn't get treated as such.
Oh wait. -
IN all reality I think Hondo is the only apologist for Islam on here.PurpleJ said:How many Muslim nations have a death penalty for homosexuality? What does the Quran have say about it?
Thoughts?
Maybe send him a PM??? -
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
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I did, but the blonde haired blue eyed white woman in a halter top did NOT have a good time.PurpleJ said:
Did you enjoy the good natured ribbing?ThomasFremont said:
I went to a game and their classless fans threw balloons full of piss and severed heads at us.PurpleJ said:
Be classy and keep your head if rival fans try to talk smack!ThomasFremont said:
Just make sure you enjoy your "sodas" in a red cupPurpleJ said:
June is really the best time to visit the Middle East.ThomasFremont said:
The road to Damascus is lovely this time of yearPurpleJ said:Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.
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Can we just start with the "overwhelming Majority peaceful Muslims"... taking the lead in exposing the Radical Islamists fucksticks and publically denouncing them with the same fervor... they denounce the United States?
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I saw Primal Faiths open for Built to Spill back in 97. They're early 7" releases were amazing but sold out.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
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sarktastic said:
Can we just start with the "overwhelming Majority peaceful Muslims"... taking the lead in exposing the Radical Islamists fucksticks and publically denouncing them with the same fervor... they denounce the United States?
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Uganda?GreenRiverGatorz said:To answer your question amid this riveting religious studies seminar, there are ten countries that have a death penalty for homosexuality. Nine of them are Islamic states, the other is Nigeria, which is more or less split between Christianity and Islam. My source is not Trump sanctioned though, so feel free to dismiss it.
The more you know™.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/ -
Youre using Uganda as your source?RaceBannon said:
Uganda?GreenRiverGatorz said:To answer your question amid this riveting religious studies seminar, there are ten countries that have a death penalty for homosexuality. Nine of them are Islamic states, the other is Nigeria, which is more or less split between Christianity and Islam. My source is not Trump sanctioned though, so feel free to dismiss it.
The more you know™.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/
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Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC. -
I'm proud of you. But I'd still kick the shit out of you if we were in the Elbe Bar and Grill.2001400ex said:
Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC. -
Weird2001400ex said:
Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC. -
First time for everything I guess2001400ex said:
Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC. -
Dem peacefully coexisting Hindus & Moslems in India doh...RaceBannon said:
First time for everything I guess2001400ex said:
Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.dnc said:
TF?2001400ex said:
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.dnc said:
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.2001400ex said:
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.PurpleJ said:
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!2001400ex said:
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.PurpleJ said:
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.ThomasFremont said:
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?PurpleJ said:2001400ex said:“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV
That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.
Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?
Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?
"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
