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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,428 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.

    I took a long walk through a large mosque in India close to Pakistan, was wearing a UW shirt too. But they made us take off our shoes and walk barefoot, was gross as fuck. It was in Ajmer, look it up on Google maps.
    Thank you for sharing the testimony of your conversion with us!
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.

    The road to Damascus is lovely this time of year
    June is really the best time to visit the Middle East.
    Just make sure you enjoy your "sodas" in a red cup ;)
    Be classy and keep your head if rival fans try to talk smack!
    I went to a game and their classless fans threw balloons full of piss and severed heads at us.
  • SweatpantsGeneralSweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,125 Swaye's Wigwam

    koopdog said:

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
    Leviticus 20:13 NIV

    That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

    image


    Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

    Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

    "The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
    No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

    Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
    Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
    Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
    That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
    One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
    Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
    Source? You're a fucking idiot as usual. I have lived among these folk in 4 different cuntries. If you call being misogynist to the point of beating and maiming, even killing a woman if she gazes on an infidel, throwing homos off of buildings, and having no intrinsic value for human life peaceful, you're the biggest dumbfuck that ever fucked.

    It is not a religion of peace. At all. It is a religion of hate. Go ahead and marginalize the fringe Christians that mainstream Christianity disowns. Cool. I do too.

    Imagine a Christian radical group in a Moslem Cuntry doing what these fucks are doing in ours. How would that be dealt with? With open border, cries for tolerance, and disarming the population? They're bullies no matter what you think.

    If this country was a bully, we'd own Canada, Mexico, and the world except for China.

    Fuck off and grow the fuck up.


    I see we both listened to Carolla this morning. Most cathartic.
    He was especially on point this a.m
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,428 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.

    The road to Damascus is lovely this time of year
    June is really the best time to visit the Middle East.
    Just make sure you enjoy your "sodas" in a red cup ;)
    Be classy and keep your head if rival fans try to talk smack!
    I went to a game and their classless fans threw balloons full of piss and severed heads at us.
    Did you enjoy the good natured ribbing?
  • SweatpantsGeneralSweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,125 Swaye's Wigwam
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    It's almost as if radical islam is a bipartisan issue that doesn't get treated as such.

    It's almost as if there are fucked up people that use religion as a reason to murder others. America would never do that tho.

    Oh wait.
    Is it possible you get dumber with every poast? I'm worried about you fren.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886
    PurpleJ said:

    How many Muslim nations have a death penalty for homosexuality? What does the Quran have say about it?

    Thoughts?

    IN all reality I think Hondo is the only apologist for Islam on here.


    Maybe send him a PM???
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,428 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    How many Muslim nations have a death penalty for homosexuality? What does the Quran have say about it?

    Thoughts?

    IN all reality I think Hondo is the only apologist for Islam on here.


    Maybe send him a PM???
    He might try to stone me.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Hondo needs to take a walk through Syria to gain some perspective. Go tell them to be more tolerant to their FACE.

    The road to Damascus is lovely this time of year
    June is really the best time to visit the Middle East.
    Just make sure you enjoy your "sodas" in a red cup ;)
    Be classy and keep your head if rival fans try to talk smack!
    I went to a game and their classless fans threw balloons full of piss and severed heads at us.
    Did you enjoy the good natured ribbing?
    I did, but the blonde haired blue eyed white woman in a halter top did NOT have a good time.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Can we just start with the "overwhelming Majority peaceful Muslims"... taking the lead in exposing the Radical Islamists fucksticks and publically denouncing them with the same fervor... they denounce the United States?
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,506 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
    Leviticus 20:13 NIV

    That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

    image


    Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

    Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

    "The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
    No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

    Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
    Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
    Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
    That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
    One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
    Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
    TF?

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  • SweatpantsGeneralSweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,125 Swaye's Wigwam

    Can we just start with the "overwhelming Majority peaceful Muslims"... taking the lead in exposing the Radical Islamists fucksticks and publically denouncing them with the same fervor... they denounce the United States?



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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,805 Founders Club

    To answer your question amid this riveting religious studies seminar, there are ten countries that have a death penalty for homosexuality. Nine of them are Islamic states, the other is Nigeria, which is more or less split between Christianity and Islam. My source is not Trump sanctioned though, so feel free to dismiss it.

    The more you know™.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/

    Uganda?
  • SweatpantsGeneralSweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,125 Swaye's Wigwam

    To answer your question amid this riveting religious studies seminar, there are ten countries that have a death penalty for homosexuality. Nine of them are Islamic states, the other is Nigeria, which is more or less split between Christianity and Islam. My source is not Trump sanctioned though, so feel free to dismiss it.

    The more you know™.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/

    Uganda?
    Youre using Uganda as your source?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
    Leviticus 20:13 NIV

    That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

    image


    Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

    Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

    "The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
    No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

    Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
    Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
    Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
    That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
    One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
    Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
    TF?

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    Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.
  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
    Leviticus 20:13 NIV

    That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

    image


    Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

    Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

    "The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
    No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

    Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
    Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
    Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
    That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
    One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
    Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
    TF?

    image
    Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.
    Weird
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,805 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
    Leviticus 20:13 NIV

    That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

    image


    Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

    Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

    "The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
    No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

    Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
    Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
    Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
    That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
    One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
    Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
    TF?

    image
    Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.
    First time for everything I guess
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,506 Standard Supporter

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
    Leviticus 20:13 NIV

    That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

    image


    Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

    Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

    "The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
    No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

    Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
    Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
    Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
    That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
    One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
    Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
    TF?

    image
    Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.
    First time for everything I guess
    Dem peacefully coexisting Hindus & Moslems in India doh...
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,521 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2016
    salemcoog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    How many Muslim nations have a death penalty for homosexuality? What does the Quran have say about it?

    Thoughts?

    IN all reality I think Hondo is the only apologist for Islam on here.


    Maybe send him a PM BM???
    Address please?
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