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Wtf? I thought voter ID was about voter fraud

2001400ex
2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
Hondo was wrong again.

Asked about how Ted Cruz or Donald Trump could win Wisconsin in the general election, Grothman said, "I think Hillary Clinton is about the weakest candidate the Democrats have ever put up. And now we have photo ID, and I think photo ID is going to make a little bit of a difference as well."

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/6/11377078/voter-id-republicans-grothman
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    #whyhondocameback
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Maybe he's right and the Ds benefit from voter fraud more than the Rs? Ever think of that? You have a weird habit of making someone else's argument for them with your retard logic.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    PurpleJ said:

    Maybe he's right and the Ds benefit from voter fraud more than the Rs? Ever think of that? You have a weird habit of making someone else's argument for them with your retard logic.

    You need to dig deeper.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    Maybe he's right and the Ds benefit from voter fraud more than the Rs? Ever think of that? You have a weird habit of making someone else's argument for them with your retard logic.

    You need to dig deeper.
    They can't afford ID?
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    How many Americans vote as it is? 25%?

    Registration should just be part of your tax return: automatic and compulsory. It's just that the GOP recognizes that their vote share in inversely related to turnout, and so they support anything that suppresses the vote. It's soft discrimination, not hard, but it's still a factor in disenfranchising people.

    If you're confident in your political argument then it shouldn't matter how many people vote.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    How many Americans vote as it is? 25%?

    Registration should just be part of your tax return: automatic and compulsory. It's just that the GOP recognizes that their vote share in inversely related to turnout, and so they support anything that suppresses the vote. It's soft discrimination, not hard, but it's still a factor in disenfranchising people.

    If you're confident in your political argument then it shouldn't matter how many people vote.

    Tammany and I shared a good laugh over this one. Maybe registration should be mandatory, but some people don't like being put on lists. You act as if there isn't a history of shady voting practices on both sides. Aren't the Dems suppressing Sanders voters right now? The fact of the matter is that the election system is fucked on both sides.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    PurpleJ said:

    How many Americans vote as it is? 25%?

    Registration should just be part of your tax return: automatic and compulsory. It's just that the GOP recognizes that their vote share in inversely related to turnout, and so they support anything that suppresses the vote. It's soft discrimination, not hard, but it's still a factor in disenfranchising people.

    If you're confident in your political argument then it shouldn't matter how many people vote.

    Tammany and I shared a good laugh over this one. Maybe registration should be mandatory, but some people don't like being put on lists. You act as if there isn't a history of shady voting practices on both sides. Aren't the Dems suppressing Sanders voters right now? The fact of the matter is that the election system is fucked on both sides.
    Stop living in the past.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    How many Americans vote as it is? 25%?

    Registration should just be part of your tax return: automatic and compulsory. It's just that the GOP recognizes that their vote share in inversely related to turnout, and so they support anything that suppresses the vote. It's soft discrimination, not hard, but it's still a factor in disenfranchising people.

    If you're confident in your political argument then it shouldn't matter how many people vote.

    Tammany and I shared a good laugh over this one. Maybe registration should be mandatory, but some people don't like being put on lists. You act as if there isn't a history of shady voting practices on both sides. Aren't the Dems suppressing Sanders voters right now? The fact of the matter is that the election system is fucked on both sides.
    Stop living in the past.
    So how about the DNC rigging it now?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    How many Americans vote as it is? 25%?

    Registration should just be part of your tax return: automatic and compulsory. It's just that the GOP recognizes that their vote share in inversely related to turnout, and so they support anything that suppresses the vote. It's soft discrimination, not hard, but it's still a factor in disenfranchising people.

    If you're confident in your political argument then it shouldn't matter how many people vote.

    Tammany and I shared a good laugh over this one. Maybe registration should be mandatory, but some people don't like being put on lists. You act as if there isn't a history of shady voting practices on both sides. Aren't the Dems suppressing Sanders voters right now? The fact of the matter is that the election system is fucked on both sides.
    Stop living in the past.
    So how about the DNC rigging it now?
    Agree it's happening on both sides, and is not a partisan issue (at least it shouldn't be).

    Although GOP Governors gerrymander like nobodies business. But I digress...

    It all boils down to those in power doing what it takes to hold power. And since good ideas are too much work for these whores, they quietly change the rules to prevent being challenged. At this point they don't even try to hide it, because they know people can't or won't do a damn thing about it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,145 Founders Club
    It should be harder to vote. Not financially but if you are too stupid or lazy to make an effort to vote then fuck you.

    Why not just have everyone who isn't registered to vote marked down as a D vote and be done with it?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    It should be harder to vote. Not financially but if you are too stupid or lazy to make an effort to vote then fuck you.

    Why not just have everyone who isn't registered to vote marked down as a D vote and be done with it?

    Race, protecting the Constitution as always.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    How many Americans vote as it is? 25%?

    Registration should just be part of your tax return: automatic and compulsory. It's just that the GOP recognizes that their vote share in inversely related to turnout, and so they support anything that suppresses the vote. It's soft discrimination, not hard, but it's still a factor in disenfranchising people.

    If you're confident in your political argument then it shouldn't matter how many people vote.

    Tammany and I shared a good laugh over this one. Maybe registration should be mandatory, but some people don't like being put on lists. You act as if there isn't a history of shady voting practices on both sides. Aren't the Dems suppressing Sanders voters right now? The fact of the matter is that the election system is fucked on both sides.
    Stop living in the past.
    So how about the DNC rigging it now?
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148

    How many Americans vote as it is? 25%?

    Registration should just be part of your tax return: automatic and compulsory. It's just that the GOP recognizes that their vote share in inversely related to turnout, and so they support anything that suppresses the vote. It's soft discrimination, not hard, but it's still a factor in disenfranchising people.

    If you're confident in your political argument then it shouldn't matter how many people vote.

    My Wikipedia research says between 50-60% have voted the past three elections. It seems high though.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    How many Americans vote as it is? 25%?

    Registration should just be part of your tax return: automatic and compulsory. It's just that the GOP recognizes that their vote share in inversely related to turnout, and so they support anything that suppresses the vote. It's soft discrimination, not hard, but it's still a factor in disenfranchising people.

    If you're confident in your political argument then it shouldn't matter how many people vote.

    My Wikipedia research says between 50-60% have voted the past three elections. It seems high though.
    That's probably of registered voters, no?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,145 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    It should be harder to vote. Not financially but if you are too stupid or lazy to make an effort to vote then fuck you.

    Why not just have everyone who isn't registered to vote marked down as a D vote and be done with it?

    Race, protecting the Constitution as always.
    Stupid even for you
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    It should be harder to vote. Not financially but if you are too stupid or lazy to make an effort to vote then fuck you.

    Why not just have everyone who isn't registered to vote marked down as a D vote and be done with it?

    It's not about getting more D votes. It's not about being lazy voters.

    The lazy ones are the people that close over half of the polling locations in their county, creating 5+ hour lines to vote. And provisional ballots not being counted, despite Independents correctly filling out their paperwork, just because they're not registered democrats (aka Bernie voters).

    I don't know about you Race, but my time is too valuable to spend 1 hour, much less 5 in line to vote.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,145 Founders Club

    It should be harder to vote. Not financially but if you are too stupid or lazy to make an effort to vote then fuck you.

    Why not just have everyone who isn't registered to vote marked down as a D vote and be done with it?

    It's not about getting more D votes. It's not about being lazy voters.

    The lazy ones are the people that close over half of the polling locations in their county, creating 5+ hour lines to vote. And provisional ballots not being counted, despite Independents correctly filling out their paperwork, just because they're not registered democrats (aka Bernie voters).

    I don't know about you Race, but my time is too valuable to spend 1 hour, much less 5 in line to vote.

    My ballot is mailed to me.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    It should be harder to vote. Not financially but if you are too stupid or lazy to make an effort to vote then fuck you.

    Why not just have everyone who isn't registered to vote marked down as a D vote and be done with it?

    Race, protecting the Constitution as always.
    Stupid even for you
    Read the Constitution fuckstick.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    edited April 2016

    It should be harder to vote. Not financially but if you are too stupid or lazy to make an effort to vote then fuck you.

    Why not just have everyone who isn't registered to vote marked down as a D vote and be done with it?

    It's not about getting more D votes. It's not about being lazy voters.

    The lazy ones are the people that close over half of the polling locations in their county, creating 5+ hour lines to vote. And provisional ballots not being counted, despite Independents correctly filling out their paperwork, just because they're not registered democrats (aka Bernie voters).

    I don't know about you Race, but my time is too valuable to spend 1 hour, much less 5 in line to vote.

    My ballot is mailed to me.
    So is mine.

    But we can't all be winners.

    Someone has to live in Arizona.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,875 Standard Supporter
    PurpleJ said:

    Maybe he's right and the Ds benefit from voter fraud more than the Rs? Ever think of that? You have a weird habit of making someone else's argument for them with your retard logic.

    Heck Ted Kennedy is now eligible to vote in Chicago. I think there is more voter fraud than we realize. ID to vote should be mandatory it's not discriminatory in any way. You need ID for everything else.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Maybe he's right and the Ds benefit from voter fraud more than the Rs? Ever think of that? You have a weird habit of making someone else's argument for them with your retard logic.

    Heck Ted Kennedy is now eligible to vote in Chicago. I think there is more voter fraud than we realize. ID to vote should be mandatory it's not discriminatory in any way. You need ID for everything else.
    I think there's a couple provisions in the Constitution regarding access to voting. You should read them.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,875 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Maybe he's right and the Ds benefit from voter fraud more than the Rs? Ever think of that? You have a weird habit of making someone else's argument for them with your retard logic.

    Heck Ted Kennedy is now eligible to vote in Chicago. I think there is more voter fraud than we realize. ID to vote should be mandatory it's not discriminatory in any way. You need ID for everything else.
    I think there's a couple provisions in the Constitution regarding access to voting. You should read them.
    Yeah you need to be a citizen for one.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Sledog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Maybe he's right and the Ds benefit from voter fraud more than the Rs? Ever think of that? You have a weird habit of making someone else's argument for them with your retard logic.

    Heck Ted Kennedy is now eligible to vote in Chicago. I think there is more voter fraud than we realize. ID to vote should be mandatory it's not discriminatory in any way. You need ID for everything else.
    Too bad there is zero evidence to support this thought of yours.

    Also, we???
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,136 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Maybe he's right and the Ds benefit from voter fraud more than the Rs? Ever think of that? You have a weird habit of making someone else's argument for them with your retard logic.

    Heck Ted Kennedy is now eligible to vote in Chicago. I think there is more voter fraud than we realize. ID to vote should be mandatory it's not discriminatory in any way. You need ID for everything else.
    Too bad there is zero evidence to support this thought of yours.

    Also, we???
    Dino Rossi disagrees.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Sledog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Maybe he's right and the Ds benefit from voter fraud more than the Rs? Ever think of that? You have a weird habit of making someone else's argument for them with your retard logic.

    Heck Ted Kennedy is now eligible to vote in Chicago. I think there is more voter fraud than we realize. ID to vote should be mandatory it's not discriminatory in any way. You need ID for everything else.
    Too bad there is zero evidence to support this thought of yours.

    Also, we???
    Dino Rossi Al Gore disagrees.
    FIFY
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Maybe he's right and the Ds benefit from voter fraud more than the Rs? Ever think of that? You have a weird habit of making someone else's argument for them with your retard logic.

    Heck Ted Kennedy is now eligible to vote in Chicago. I think there is more voter fraud than we realize. ID to vote should be mandatory it's not discriminatory in any way. You need ID for everything else.
    Too bad there is zero evidence to support this thought of yours.

    Also, we???
    Dino Rossi Al Gore disagrees.
    FIFY
    So you agree voter fraud is a thing.

    Thanks for playing.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Maybe he's right and the Ds benefit from voter fraud more than the Rs? Ever think of that? You have a weird habit of making someone else's argument for them with your retard logic.

    Heck Ted Kennedy is now eligible to vote in Chicago. I think there is more voter fraud than we realize. ID to vote should be mandatory it's not discriminatory in any way. You need ID for everything else.
    Too bad there is zero evidence to support this thought of yours.

    Also, we???
    Dino Rossi Al Gore disagrees.
    FIFY
    So you agree voter fraud is a thing.

    Thanks for playing.
    Yes the RNC in Florida screwed the voters in the state. They took away legitimate votes. Not people who are illegal or unregistered.

    Fuckstick.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    It's only a partisan issue if you're a partisan hack.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,145 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    It should be harder to vote. Not financially but if you are too stupid or lazy to make an effort to vote then fuck you.

    Why not just have everyone who isn't registered to vote marked down as a D vote and be done with it?

    Race, protecting the Constitution as always.
    Stupid even for you
    Read the Constitution fuckstick.
    What did I write that is unconstitutional? Everyone has a right to vote. Doesn't mean everyone has to. Too stupid and lazy to register too bad. For 200 years you've had to register

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    It should be harder to vote. Not financially but if you are too stupid or lazy to make an effort to vote then fuck you.

    Why not just have everyone who isn't registered to vote marked down as a D vote and be done with it?

    Race, protecting the Constitution as always.
    Stupid even for you
    Read the Constitution fuckstick.
    What did I write that is unconstitutional? Everyone has a right to vote. Doesn't mean everyone has to. Too stupid and lazy to register too bad. For 200 years you've had to register

    It should be harder to vote.

    That's your quote.