So Bernie is going to win Wisonsin
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You fucking kidding me? It would be amazing. Again, I don't care who emerged (I hadn't considered this possibility, I'd probably take Ryan over any of the four of them but that's not the point). The point is Trump as an independent would splinter the GOP, Feel the Bernie as an independent would splinter the democratic party, we end up with four parties: GOP, democrat, socialist and tea party/libertarian or some such, and the two party system is dead.greenblood said:
In reality, I don't think it would be great politically. Great for TV. Keep in mind, you have to win a majority. Nobody in the field of 4 would win the majority, so I think it would go to the Senate. Which would more than likely pick Ryan. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's how it's done when nobody gets a majority in the electoral college.dnc said:
I've been saying for months this is the best possible result for the future of the republic. Any three of them in the race is bad news because it destroys one party and sets one party up to dominate by default. All four of them in the race is fantastic because it destroys the two party system. I wouldn't even care who won the four way race, just having it would be the best possible thing for Mericah.ThomasFremont said:
If that happens, Bernie should just say fuck it and run as an Independent.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I don't know if it's a foregone conclusion that the super delegates will flip to whoever wins the normal delegate count. That has certainly happened in the past, but in those situations the democratic candidates were both firmly a part of the DNC. Sanders has all but rejected the democrats for his entire political career. On top of that, he's raised next to nothing for downstream democratic races (last I checked his number was at $10,000), while Hillary has raised over $30 million for those state and local democratic politicians. She has put in the time and effort to build alliances with the powers that be in her party, while Sanders has largely ignored them. That kind of strategy could very well bite him in the ass if it somehow comes down to the super delegates playing a role in determining the nominee.NEsnake12 said:
Super delegates will flip to whoever wins the most pledged votes. That said, it'll be insanely hard for Bernie to close the gap due to every dem primary being proportional.GreenRiverGatorz said:Sanders still needs to win the remaining delegates by a nearly 60% margin. And that doesn't even account for the super delegates. You can keep clinging to hope if you want, but get real, it's been over for a month now.
After Trump gets screwed by the RNC, we can have a 4 horse race.
Could be interesting.
I'd take a Hillary presidency if it meant the end of the two party system. If I could get that with a Ryan presidency sign me up yesterday -
If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.
YOLO
Only the top 3 get considered by the House. I could easily see Ryan getting rejected by voters and not making the top 3 (Bernie, Trump, Hillary). As Speaker, he would no doubt have influence, but I have a hard time believing he wins over voters after being force fed to them, and having to run against 3 well known candidates.
But the VP decision is even more interesting. If Bernie can get Elizabeth Warren as a running mate, she could be the first female president (acting, but whatever) even if Hillary eventually wins the election.
If I have to endure a Hillary presidency, having that title taken away from her would make it a little bit easier to handle.
Overall, must see TV.
Hopefully some riots break out. -
ThomasFremont said:
If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.
YOLO
Only the top 3 get considered by the House. I could easily see Ryan getting rejected by voters and not making the top 3 (Bernie, Trump, Hillary). As Speaker, he would no doubt have influence, but I have a hard time believing he wins over voters after being force fed to them, and having to run against 3 well known candidates.
But the VP decision is even more interesting. If Bernie can get Elizabeth Warren as a running mate, she could be the first female president (acting, but whatever) even if Hillary eventually wins the election.
If I have to endure a Hillary presidency, having that title taken away from her would make it a little bit easier to handle.
Overall, must see TV.
Hopefully some riots break out. -
GrundleStiltzkin said:ThomasFremont said:
If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.
YOLO
Only the top 3 get considered by the House. I could easily see Ryan getting rejected by voters and not making the top 3 (Bernie, Trump, Hillary). As Speaker, he would no doubt have influence, but I have a hard time believing he wins over voters after being force fed to them, and having to run against 3 well known candidates.
But the VP decision is even more interesting. If Bernie can get Elizabeth Warren as a running mate, she could be the first female president (acting, but whatever) even if Hillary eventually wins the election.
If I have to endure a Hillary presidency, having that title taken away from her would make it a little bit easier to handle.
Overall, must see TV.
Hopefully some riots break out.