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$15 an hour FUCK YA

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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Should I be impressed that you can look up Wikipedia articles?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I don't shop at Grocery Outlet, Hondo, so I can't comment on your experiences.

    I'm talking reality. And reality is, most grocery stores are union and employees already make more than minimum wage.

    Got any more faux news stories?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    DoogIP: Serious question. Ever taken Economics?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    DoogIP: Serious question. Ever taken Economics?

    Shitstain, serious question. Ever looked at reality with the effects of minimum wage? There's a long history of minimum wage hikes in the US to glean information from. Might even have been taught in an economics class.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    DoogIP: Serious question. Ever taken Economics?

    Shitstain, serious question. Ever looked at reality with the effects of minimum wage? There's a long history of minimum wage hikes in the US to glean information from. Might even have been taught in an economics class.
    So that's a definite and resounding "NO" for Hondo. Doogy?
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    DoogIP: Serious question. Ever taken Economics?

    I'm more of a humanities guy quite honestly. The lived experience seems more important than hypothetical modeling.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter

    Corporate profits are setting records, yet credulous idiots like spooge and turdbuffer don't think the market will bear a $15/hr wage. This when the median wage in Seattle is something like $60k or more and a mid-century rambler that needs a lot of work will fetch $650,000 with multiple offers.

    Doogy: You've got some legitimate gripes. Housing is fucked because city planners are sucking dick for all those hi paying jobs and the pet-project-funding taxes they bring with them. But it crunches the housing market causing rents and prices to skyrocket. $15 per hour will only temporarily dent that problem, not fix it.

    You're essentially robbing Peter to pay Paul, and not scratching "corporate profits" or the infamous 1%. Neither gives a shit, unless or until the aggregate costs climb too high, at which point they'll blackmail the City, County and State, as Boeing has taught the Googles, Amazons, and the Microsofts to do, following suit from the NFL and MLB before, and which, if not capitulated to with tax exemptions, will close up shop and move elsewhere. No, you're not touching them. You're hitting the retiree buying a gallon of milk, the family going out to dinner, and yourself. One big circle.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168

    Corporate profits are setting records, yet credulous idiots like spooge and turdbuffer don't think the market will bear a $15/hr wage. This when the median wage in Seattle is something like $60k or more and a mid-century rambler that needs a lot of work will fetch $650,000 with multiple offers.

    I have no problem with large corporations buckling up for a gradual 5-10% cost increase over a multi-year period. But I don't like small businesses or franchises being subject to the same rules. And that's a problem because you'll have a pretty inefficient labor market if you have different sets of minimum wages for different companies. It won't work.

    The only reasonable approach I see is to tie the wage to inflation so that the minimum wage (in real dollars) stops it's continued, decades-long fall. The minimum wage should never aspire to provide for a comfortable, middle class lifestyle, but it should be enough to provide for some (minimal) level of savings that can be used for future upward mobility (saving for college, trade school, starting a business, etc). Right now it is well below that goal and is continuing to widen the gap.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    2001400ex said:

    I don't shop at Grocery Outlet, Hondo, so I can't comment on your experiences.

    I'm talking reality. And reality is, most grocery stores are union and employees already make more than minimum wage.

    Got any more faux news stories?
    always lies with this one

    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.t03.htm
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    I don't shop at Grocery Outlet, Hondo, so I can't comment on your experiences.

    I'm talking reality. And reality is, most grocery stores are union and employees already make more than minimum wage.

    Got any more faux news stories?
    always lies with this one

    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.t03.htm
    Yet your link doesn't show anything to disprove my point.