Quasi-Official Iowa Cockus Thread
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ThomasFremont said:
It never was done, there for you are creating a hypothetical.topdawgnc said:
That isn't a hypothetical.ThomasFremont said:topdawgnc said:
I don't deal in hypotheticals.ThomasFremont said:
Maybe you should write him and let him know.topdawgnc said:
He could have twice that, rather easily.ThomasFremont said:
http://www.moneytalksnews.com/why-youre-probably-better-investing-than-donald-trump/topdawgnc said:
You don't understand bankruptcy laws ... do youLoneStarDawg said:If this election is all about the economy trump has about as much success to bring to the table as W
I like to say a guy who turns 200 million into 4 billion is too stupid to make money as easily as this article states.
Because you read it on the Internet, it has to be true.
The Internet is never wrong, and life moves in a linear motion.
Or maybe ...
His plan is to retire after losing the Presidency and then put all of his money in an index fund and live happily ever after. Ever think of that tuff guy.
You're right.
So you should quit arguing Trump would be worth twice his value had he done a hypothetical.
It's a mathematical fact.
Sounds like you need to learn the difference.
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Rubio celebrating like its his quinceanera. "They told us it couldn't be done" he said. Unaware of the fact that he did not get it done apparently.
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Victory goes to those who claim it.allpurpleallgold said:Rubio celebrating like its his quinceanera. "They told us it couldn't be done" he said. Unaware of the fact that he did not get it done apparently.
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I guess all those claimed UW moral victories count then.topdawgnc said:
Victory goes to those who claim it.allpurpleallgold said:Rubio celebrating like its his quinceanera. "They told us it couldn't be done" he said. Unaware of the fact that he did not get it done apparently.
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Trump was very gracious. On to New Hampshire
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Good showing for Rubio.
I'm still hoping Bloomberg enters the ring after a few others give up. He's my "let's not make the perfect the enemy of the good" candidate.
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He's gonna buy a farm in Iowa!RaceBannon said:Trump was very gracious. On to New Hampshire
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FAUX news is really pimping Rubio.
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My big takeaways from tonight:
1) Rubio outperformed and turned some Trump supporters that my guess questioned his electability in a general election ... perhaps Rubio's reasonably strong night absent Trump at last week's debate provided an opening that Trump now has to deal with.
2) Cruz with a real strange night to me in that he did better in the more populous areas than expected but Trump beat him out of votes in the more rural/church region.
3) Reports of GOP turnout of over 180k shattering the high end of estimates of 150k that was being predicted. If that trend continues in future states and can carry over until November, that's a great sign for the GOP nominee.
4) The Democratic side has all been about whether Bernie is electable/viable or not ... apparently the people of Iowa says he is.
5) I can't help but wonder how much of Bernie's surge is a desire to find any candidate that isn't Hillary ... nobody talks about whether she's electable or not ... but I have serious questions that she is. -
I've been saying for months that Hilary is a paper tiger. Bern isn't even going after her. The GOP will
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We can never judge the values of other cultures.allpurpleallgold said:Rubio celebrating like its his quinceanera. "They told us it couldn't be done" he said. Unaware of the fact that he did not get it done apparently.
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My boy Rand got one! WOOF!
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Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.
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Jim Gilmore must be ecstatic that he got 12 votes.
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Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.NEsnake12 said:Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.
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The us isn't a democracy. Never has been, never will beallpurpleallgold said:
Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.NEsnake12 said:Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.
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You must be new to America.allpurpleallgold said:
Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.NEsnake12 said:Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.
Or wanting a handout. -
abundance to infinitiytopdawgnc said:
You must be new to America.allpurpleallgold said:
Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.NEsnake12 said:Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.
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Bronze medals have consequencesallpurpleallgold said:Rubio celebrating like its his quinceanera. "They told us it couldn't be done" he said. Unaware of the fact that he did not get it done apparently.
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Reality of a two party system is that the majority of voters will vote for the candidate of their party of choice, regardless of who it is. But to win the electoral college, one side's candidate has to appeal more to centrist/independent voters over the other.allpurpleallgold said:
Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.NEsnake12 said:Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.
"Electable" in the sense it's being used now means "able to capture a significant amount centrist/independent voters" in the general election. Trump, Cruz, and Bernie all get questioned on their "electability" because they each have things about them that are too extremely left or right for centrist voters to latch onto. Rubio has less of those concerns than a Trump or Cruz for the GOP. For instance, I'm centrist and would never vote Cruz or Trump, but would definitely consider Rubio.
In short, democracy is about electing the people who encompass the views and support of the highest % of people, and in this case thats Rubio. Thus making him more "electable." -
In other words, the best of the worst.NEsnake12 said:
Reality of a two party system is that the majority of voters will vote for the candidate of their party of choice, regardless of who it is. But to win the electoral college, one side's candidate has to appeal more to centrist/independent voters over the other.allpurpleallgold said:
Electing politicians because they're electable. That's some democracy we got here.NEsnake12 said:Trump biggest loser tonight, Rubio biggest winner for establishing himself as the most centrist/electable of the top 3 GOP candidates. Once the second-tier moderate establishment candidates drop out after NH (Bush, Christie, Kasich), their supporters will flock to Rubio, and he'll have a clear shot at the nomination.
"Electable" in the sense it's being used now means "able to capture a significant amount centrist/independent voters" in the general election. Trump, Cruz, and Bernie all get questioned on their "electability" because they each have things about them that are too extremely left or right for centrist voters to latch onto. Rubio has less of those concerns than a Trump or Cruz for the GOP. For instance, I'm centrist and would never vote Cruz or Trump, but would definitely consider Rubio.
In short, democracy is about electing the people who encompass the views and support of the highest % of people, and in this case thats Rubio. Thus making him more "electable."
How comforting.
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Seeing that Carson is "taking off the gloves" with respect to Cruz ... I can respect that.
Interesting little chart about $$$ spent versus vote received: http://media.fyre.co/5jn5Fg3rSmuVLujbQq2S_iowa.ad.spending.vs.votes.v2.xl.png -
Christ, in the State of Washington, Jeb could have got a way lower cost-per-dead voter than in Iowa. Pretty sure King County dead people votes are going for less than $250 each these days.Tequilla said:Seeing that Carson is "taking off the gloves" with respect to Cruz ... I can respect that.
Interesting little chart about $$$ spent versus vote received: http://media.fyre.co/5jn5Fg3rSmuVLujbQq2S_iowa.ad.spending.vs.votes.v2.xl.png
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The Bern is pulling Hills left. Cruz is no more "extreme" than either one of them. Fuck the middle. That's where road kill lives.
Choose a side and let's roll
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