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Tony Bennett

Took WSU to an impressive level

He's won 2 straight ACC's according to the announcers on CBS today. UVgAy (lol) is usually at best a middle of the pack ACC team. They're definitely below Duke, UNC, and Syracuse, Maryland before they ditched, and no better than Wake Forest, BC, GT, NC St, and Clemson.

His system is boring as hell, but he wins.

It's a good name to throw in the face of Doogs when they ask for someone better. Remember him jackass? He coached for Wazzu.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    edited January 2016
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,513
    I never thought about it before but Bennett is the absolute anti-Romar. I doubt you could find more polar opposite coaches in the NCAAs style-wise
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Gladstone said:

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
    Fire Marshall Bill seems to think Bennett would be better than Romar.

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of Australians play a boring as fuck brand of bball so we? can still lose in the Sweet 16 is not a positive move.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991

    Gladstone said:

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
    Fire Marshall Bill seems to think Bennett would be better than Romar.

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of Australians play a boring as fuck brand of bball so we? can still lose in the Sweet 16 is not a positive move.
    I miss the days when we(?)'d regularly make the torunament
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732

    Gladstone said:

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
    Fire Marshall Bill seems to think Bennett would be better than Romar.

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of Australians play a boring as fuck brand of bball so we? can still lose in the Sweet 16 is not a positive move.
    Let me get this straight. You think Romar is a better coach that Bennett?

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of undisciplined west coast guys play gym rat ball so we? can still miss out on a single fucking post season tournament is not a positive move.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,765 Founders Club
    It's like the regular season of college basketball actually matters.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    HuskyInAZ said:

    Gladstone said:

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
    Fire Marshall Bill seems to think Bennett would be better than Romar.

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of Australians play a boring as fuck brand of bball so we? can still lose in the Sweet 16 is not a positive move.
    Let me get this straight. You think Romar is a better coach that Bennett?

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of undisciplined west coast guys play gym rat ball so we? can still miss out on a single fucking post season tournament is not a positive move.
    Bennett = boring brand, same results.

    No thanks.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Gladstone said:

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
    Fire Marshall Bill seems to think Bennett would be better than Romar.

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of Australians play a boring as fuck brand of bball so we? can still lose in the Sweet 16 is not a positive move.
    Let me get this straight. You think Romar is a better coach that Bennett?

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of undisciplined west coast guys play gym rat ball so we? can still miss out on a single fucking post season tournament is not a positive move.
    Bennett = boring brand, same results.

    No thanks.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,090
    Bennett not a good fit at UW. Lesbo president would never hire competition for bi-/undecided females.

    UVA frat boy/sorority girl culture way better for sexing it up.

  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Gladstone said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Gladstone said:

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
    Fire Marshall Bill seems to think Bennett would be better than Romar.

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of Australians play a boring as fuck brand of bball so we? can still lose in the Sweet 16 is not a positive move.
    Let me get this straight. You think Romar is a better coach that Bennett?

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of undisciplined west coast guys play gym rat ball so we? can still miss out on a single fucking post season tournament is not a positive move.
    Bennett = boring brand, same results.

    No thanks.
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    No, I'm not drunk.

    Please list the accomplishments that make Bennett an upgrade...I'll wait.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,763
    edited January 2016

    Gladstone said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Gladstone said:

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
    Fire Marshall Bill seems to think Bennett would be better than Romar.

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of Australians play a boring as fuck brand of bball so we? can still lose in the Sweet 16 is not a positive move.
    Let me get this straight. You think Romar is a better coach that Bennett?

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of undisciplined west coast guys play gym rat ball so we? can still miss out on a single fucking post season tournament is not a positive move.
    Bennett = boring brand, same results.

    No thanks.
    image
    No, I'm not drunk.

    Please list the accomplishments that make Bennett an upgrade...I'll wait.
    Please list the accomplishments of any D1 coach outside of Callipari, Coach K, izzo or Patino add Bo Ryan to this short list! You sound like a fucking idiot


    #8 Tony Bennett, Virginia
    Record at Virginia: 136-64, 64-37 ACC

    NCAA Tournament: 6-5

    Number to note: Virginia’s record against the RPI top 50 has improved in each of the last five seasons from 0-6 to 2-6 to 4-3 to 5-4 to 8-3 in 2015.

    Why he’s ranked here: The early NCAA Tournament exits in the last two seasons — both to Michigan State — will haunt Bennett, but the Cavaliers are coming off back-to-back 30-win seasons and ACC regular season titles despite lesser talent compared to teams like Duke, North Carolina and Louisville.



    - See more at: http://athlonsports.com/college-basketball/ranking-top-50-college-basketball-coaches-2015-16#sthash.uwj7D35n.dpuf
    http://athlonsports.com/college-basketball/ranking-top-50-college-basketball-coaches-2015-16
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,978 Founders Club
    Bennett = Beamer

    Doog legend
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    I'm in the middle of this argument as bennett is better than romar b/c he does much more with less. That being said, he hasn't done anything earth shattering either and I have to agree that bennett is not a fit at UW.

    We? need to be honest about the players that come out of seattle and find a coach who would thrive with that type of player. Bennett isn't getting 80% of the guys Romar gets to come to UW b/c as TF said his brand of basketball is fucking boring and isn't tailored to their skills. If you want to slow the ball to a crawl to win games than more power to you, but it's going to be hard to win in the tourney, and it's going to be impossible to recruit to garfield/RB players.

    There are lots of coaches out there with solid resume's who could have an uptempo offense with discipline on defense. Archie miller is still my favorite choice of coaches who could come in and take over a team and keep players. He has a resume of success, post season success, and plenty of credibility in the game.

    All this is pointless as nobody in the AD past or future has the balls to fire romar. If 4 years out of the tourney(and likely 5) wasn't enough, now with all the talent the roster has there just isn't a person with a pair willing to remove him and admit 14 years is enough to be further than a sweet 16.

    Agree, since Romar isn't going anywhere.

    But if he was to be replaced, I like Archie Miller more than Bennett too.

    You wanna talk about doing more with less. Miller has actually knocked off good teams when it counts, in the tourney. Not just winning some meaningless conference title and then doing shit in the tourney like Bennett.

    Hiring Bennett would be like hiring Ken Niumatalolo or Paul Johnson as the football HC to run the option. As cool as that sounds to purists, the option isn't winning shit in modern day football. Bennett's system is similarly outdated.

    Bennett is a fucking loser. No wonder some of you love him.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,763
    edited January 2016

    I'm in the middle of this argument as bennett is better than romar b/c he does much more with less. That being said, he hasn't done anything earth shattering either and I have to agree that bennett is not a fit at UW.

    We? need to be honest about the players that come out of seattle and find a coach who would thrive with that type of player. Bennett isn't getting 80% of the guys Romar gets to come to UW b/c as TF said his brand of basketball is fucking boring and isn't tailored to their skills. If you want to slow the ball to a crawl to win games than more power to you, but it's going to be hard to win in the tourney, and it's going to be impossible to recruit to garfield/RB players.

    There are lots of coaches out there with solid resume's who could have an uptempo offense with discipline on defense. Archie miller is still my favorite choice of coaches who could come in and take over a team and keep players. He has a resume of success, post season success, and plenty of credibility in the game.

    All this is pointless as nobody in the AD past or future has the balls to fire romar. If 4 years out of the tourney(and likely 5) wasn't enough, now with all the talent the roster has there just isn't a person with a pair willing to remove him and admit 14 years is enough to be further than a sweet 16.

    Agree, since Romar isn't going anywhere.

    But if he was to be replaced, I like Archie Miller more than Bennett too.

    You wanna talk about doing more with less. Miller has actually knocked off good teams when it counts, in the tourney. Not just winning some meaningless conference title and then doing shit in the tourney like Bennett.

    Hiring Bennett would be like hiring Ken Niumatalolo or Paul Johnson as the football HC to run the option. As cool as that sounds to purists, the option isn't winning shit in modern day football. Bennett's system is similarly outdated.

    Bennett is a fucking loser. No wonder some of you love him.
    I don't think anyone here said they would hire him at UW, but he's far from a looser
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    I'm in the middle of this argument as bennett is better than romar b/c he does much more with less. That being said, he hasn't done anything earth shattering either and I have to agree that bennett is not a fit at UW.

    We? need to be honest about the players that come out of seattle and find a coach who would thrive with that type of player. Bennett isn't getting 80% of the guys Romar gets to come to UW b/c as TF said his brand of basketball is fucking boring and isn't tailored to their skills. If you want to slow the ball to a crawl to win games than more power to you, but it's going to be hard to win in the tourney, and it's going to be impossible to recruit to garfield/RB players.

    There are lots of coaches out there with solid resume's who could have an uptempo offense with discipline on defense. Archie miller is still my favorite choice of coaches who could come in and take over a team and keep players. He has a resume of success, post season success, and plenty of credibility in the game.

    All this is pointless as nobody in the AD past or future has the balls to fire romar. If 4 years out of the tourney(and likely 5) wasn't enough, now with all the talent the roster has there just isn't a person with a pair willing to remove him and admit 14 years is enough to be further than a sweet 16.

    Agree, since Romar isn't going anywhere.

    But if he was to be replaced, I like Archie Miller more than Bennett too.

    You wanna talk about doing more with less. Miller has actually knocked off good teams when it counts, in the tourney. Not just winning some meaningless conference title and then doing shit in the tourney like Bennett.

    Hiring Bennett would be like hiring Ken Niumatalolo or Paul Johnson as the football HC to run the option. As cool as that sounds to purists, the option isn't winning shit in modern day football. Bennett's system is similarly outdated.

    Bennett is a fucking loser. No wonder some of you love him.
    I don't think anyone here said they would hire him at UW, but he's far from a looser
    Did you not read the start of this thread?

    FMB's poont is that you can fire Romar because Bennett would be a better hire.

    I was replying to him when you decided to join in the conversation to fluff Bennett.

    And yes, he's a fucking loser.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,763

    I'm in the middle of this argument as bennett is better than romar b/c he does much more with less. That being said, he hasn't done anything earth shattering either and I have to agree that bennett is not a fit at UW.

    We? need to be honest about the players that come out of seattle and find a coach who would thrive with that type of player. Bennett isn't getting 80% of the guys Romar gets to come to UW b/c as TF said his brand of basketball is fucking boring and isn't tailored to their skills. If you want to slow the ball to a crawl to win games than more power to you, but it's going to be hard to win in the tourney, and it's going to be impossible to recruit to garfield/RB players.

    There are lots of coaches out there with solid resume's who could have an uptempo offense with discipline on defense. Archie miller is still my favorite choice of coaches who could come in and take over a team and keep players. He has a resume of success, post season success, and plenty of credibility in the game.

    All this is pointless as nobody in the AD past or future has the balls to fire romar. If 4 years out of the tourney(and likely 5) wasn't enough, now with all the talent the roster has there just isn't a person with a pair willing to remove him and admit 14 years is enough to be further than a sweet 16.

    Agree, since Romar isn't going anywhere.

    But if he was to be replaced, I like Archie Miller more than Bennett too.

    You wanna talk about doing more with less. Miller has actually knocked off good teams when it counts, in the tourney. Not just winning some meaningless conference title and then doing shit in the tourney like Bennett.

    Hiring Bennett would be like hiring Ken Niumatalolo or Paul Johnson as the football HC to run the option. As cool as that sounds to purists, the option isn't winning shit in modern day football. Bennett's system is similarly outdated.

    Bennett is a fucking loser. No wonder some of you love him.
    I don't think anyone here said they would hire him at UW, but he's far from a looser
    Did you not read the start of this thread?

    FMB's poont is that you can fire Romar because Bennett would be a better hire.

    I was replying to him when you decided to join in the conversation to fluff Bennett.

    And yes, he's a fucking loser.

    It's your world playa
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    I'm in the middle of this argument as bennett is better than romar b/c he does much more with less. That being said, he hasn't done anything earth shattering either and I have to agree that bennett is not a fit at UW.

    We? need to be honest about the players that come out of seattle and find a coach who would thrive with that type of player. Bennett isn't getting 80% of the guys Romar gets to come to UW b/c as TF said his brand of basketball is fucking boring and isn't tailored to their skills. If you want to slow the ball to a crawl to win games than more power to you, but it's going to be hard to win in the tourney, and it's going to be impossible to recruit to garfield/RB players.

    There are lots of coaches out there with solid resume's who could have an uptempo offense with discipline on defense. Archie miller is still my favorite choice of coaches who could come in and take over a team and keep players. He has a resume of success, post season success, and plenty of credibility in the game.

    All this is pointless as nobody in the AD past or future has the balls to fire romar. If 4 years out of the tourney(and likely 5) wasn't enough, now with all the talent the roster has there just isn't a person with a pair willing to remove him and admit 14 years is enough to be further than a sweet 16.

    Agree, since Romar isn't going anywhere.

    But if he was to be replaced, I like Archie Miller more than Bennett too.

    You wanna talk about doing more with less. Miller has actually knocked off good teams when it counts, in the tourney. Not just winning some meaningless conference title and then doing shit in the tourney like Bennett.

    Hiring Bennett would be like hiring Ken Niumatalolo or Paul Johnson as the football HC to run the option. As cool as that sounds to purists, the option isn't winning shit in modern day football. Bennett's system is similarly outdated.

    Bennett is a fucking loser. No wonder some of you love him.
    I don't think anyone here said they would hire him at UW, but he's far from a looser
    Did you not read the start of this thread?

    FMB's poont is that you can fire Romar because Bennett would be a better hire.

    I was replying to him when you decided to join in the conversation to fluff Bennett.

    And yes, he's a fucking loser.

    It's your world playa
    Great white flag, as always.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,554 Swaye's Wigwam
    After 6 years, the book is still being written on Bennett and if he can take his "first to 50" games in the regular season and make it work in the tourney

    After 14 years, Romar's "first to 80" style does not work in the tourney (and has barely worked in a overall shitty Pac-12 during that stretch). I would NEVER pick Romar to win the NCAA BB tournament even if he had Duke/Carolina/Kentucky talent.

    coaching wise Bennett>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Romar

    recruiting wise, my belief is Tony would be able to attract the best kids from Seattle and Tacoma because they want to play for teams that win and get to the tourney and he would build that here.

    But that's a dead point as it won't happen.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,554 Swaye's Wigwam

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Gladstone said:

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
    Fire Marshall Bill seems to think Bennett would be better than Romar.

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of Australians play a boring as fuck brand of bball so we? can still lose in the Sweet 16 is not a positive move.
    Let me get this straight. You think Romar is a better coach that Bennett?

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of undisciplined west coast guys play gym rat ball so we? can still miss out on a single fucking post season tournament is not a positive move.
    Bennett = boring brand, same results.

    No thanks.
    Bennett's had a three year run of success in a conference where Romar's teams outside the B-Roy/Nate group would be lucky to finish 10th in any year

    Can you imagine Romar in league of coaches including coach K, Roy Williams, Bennett, Boeheim, Diamond, and that's off the top of my head as I'm to lazy to look up who else might be in the ACC?
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    godawgst said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Gladstone said:

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
    Fire Marshall Bill seems to think Bennett would be better than Romar.

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of Australians play a boring as fuck brand of bball so we? can still lose in the Sweet 16 is not a positive move.
    Let me get this straight. You think Romar is a better coach that Bennett?

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of undisciplined west coast guys play gym rat ball so we? can still miss out on a single fucking post season tournament is not a positive move.
    Bennett = boring brand, same results.

    No thanks.
    Bennett's had a three year run of success in a conference where Romar's teams outside the B-Roy/Nate group would be lucky to finish 10th in any year

    Can you imagine Romar in league of coaches including coach K, Roy Williams, Bennett, Boeheim, Diamond, and that's off the top of my head as I'm to lazy to look up who else might be in the ACC?
    Again, the middle man, but if bennett if your flag waiving hero you all have a lot of fucking problems. Has he done more with less, sure. Has he really done more than romar? That isn't a high bar.

    I want more
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,513
    The more I read Freemefromthecloset's posts, the more I think he might be Kim Grinolds
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,632 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2016

    Gladstone said:

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
    Fire Marshall Bill seems to think Bennett would be better than Romar.

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of Australians play a boring as fuck brand of bball so we? can still lose in the Sweet 16 is not a positive move.
    I like Romar's style five times better, but his teams get sloppy and have halfcourt breakdowns and can't beat a simple 2-3 zone way too often. Bennett is a much better coach, and he could probably recruit just as well in both Washington and elsewhere.

    I had to look up his postseason records because I don't follow college bball closely, and while they aren't great, they aren't terrible. Virginia and Washington State didn't have that much elite talent. Klay Thompson? was probably his premier player. I think he could do better than Romar both regular season and postseason with the top ten or fifteen talent they have right now. He sure as hell wouldn't go five years without a tournament.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    Gladstone said:

    Gladstone said:

    Bennett has done jack shit in the NCAA tourney.

    I think the OP asked for coaches 'better than Romar' and not coaches who have crushed the NCAAs.
    If he can't win in the tourney, what's the point?
    Get to the tourney? Iono. You're arguing against a phantom opponent, no one is disputing what you're saying.
    Fire Marshall Bill seems to think Bennett would be better than Romar.

    I disagree.

    Watching a bunch of Australians play a boring as fuck brand of bball so we? can still lose in the Sweet 16 is not a positive move.
    if in 10 years tony bennett still hasn't advanced past the sweet 16, I will gladly admit I'm wrong. But for now you're being a fucktard
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    The more I read Freemefromthecloset's posts, the more I think he might be Kim Grinolds

    Sick burn.