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Would you Bloom for Michael?
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I know. It works *chuckle*doogsinparadise said:Broken windows had/has potential, but it wasn't the reason the homicide rate has been dropping since the early 90s, and at the expense of thousands of people's civil rights. It certainly isn't the liberal policy.
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Who is liberal and who is conservative any more? What do those terms even mean these days? Is a liberal someone who wants to liberate people or are they just for spending liberally and expanding government control? Is a conservative someone who is shrewd with spending, or is it more about the "conservative" old school values? Someone tell me what the fuck is going on here. I need answers people.
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ThomasFremont said:
You mean like interning an entire race of people, even if they are American citizens?Southerndawg said:
I like to pretend all presidential executive orders are the same, that's what I like to do.2001400ex said: -
IMHO, Bloomberg is the 2nd most qualified candidate after Kasich.
The country needs a smart, moderate president who can work with Congress and yet the brain-dead can't stop looking at Trump / Sanders
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Bloomberg certainly has the executive experience the lawmakers in the field lack. I do think, though, it will take the realistic prospect of a Trump v Sanders general election for him to get into the race, and I still don't see that happening. IMO, Hillary will win the democrat party nomination, and most likely, Cruz will win the republican nomination.HFNY said:IMHO, Bloomberg is the 2nd most qualified candidate after Kasich.
The country needs a smart, moderate president who can work with Congress and yet the brain-dead can't stop looking at Trump / Sanders -
I used to think it would be hillary. but as she loses momentum and the idea of an indictment becomes more of a possibility I'm having more trouble seeing it.Southerndawg said:
Bloomberg certainly has the executive experience the lawmakers in the field lack. I do think, though, it will take the realistic prospect of a Trump v Sanders general election for him to get into the race, and I still don't see that happening. IMO, Hillary will win the democrat party nomination, and most likely, Cruz will win the republican nomination.HFNY said:IMHO, Bloomberg is the 2nd most qualified candidate after Kasich.
The country needs a smart, moderate president who can work with Congress and yet the brain-dead can't stop looking at Trump / Sanders
Trump is gonna be the GOP nominee unless he drops out, it's sad but the reality
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Work with congress to do what? Anything that you work with congress on is going to be bullshit. The last thing this country needs is donor owned congress making a bunch of donor approved decisions. Shove shit down congresses throat. Trump/Sanders 2016.HFNY said:IMHO, Bloomberg is the 2nd most qualified candidate after Kasich.
The country needs a smart, moderate president who can work with Congress and yet the brain-dead can't stop looking at Trump / Sanders -
Trump is a "populist" who has brought some important issues to the forefront and he delivers his "message" in an anti-PC way that appeals to those who are sick and tired of PC bullying. But IMHO, his bombastic arrogance and persona will eventually wear thin. In fact prominent conservatives have been against him from the beginning, a number of them going so far as to skewer him in a recent issue of National Review. His polling numbers have the establishment running scared, that is for sure, they do fear he could win the nomination, but this show has run it's course before, with the populist candidate eventually being overrun by someone in the field who is more traditional, more presidential. We'll see.dhdawg said:
I used to think it would be hillary. but as she loses momentum and the idea of an indictment becomes more of a possibility I'm having more trouble seeing it.Southerndawg said:
Bloomberg certainly has the executive experience the lawmakers in the field lack. I do think, though, it will take the realistic prospect of a Trump v Sanders general election for him to get into the race, and I still don't see that happening. IMO, Hillary will win the democrat party nomination, and most likely, Cruz will win the republican nomination.HFNY said:IMHO, Bloomberg is the 2nd most qualified candidate after Kasich.
The country needs a smart, moderate president who can work with Congress and yet the brain-dead can't stop looking at Trump / Sanders
Trump is gonna be the GOP nominee unless he drops out, it's sad but the reality
Sanders is a left wing loon playing the "populist" card as well. Red meat for those easily manipulated by class warfare and interested in a massive paternalistic form of federal government full of "free stuff". He is a self described socialist who would normally have no chance, but Hillary is a terrible candidate, essentially running on a Bern light platform. She still has a substantial lead over the Bern in nearly all national polls, but as you point out, she also has an indictment hanging over her head. Bernie wins the nomination if she is indicted, otherwise, IMO, Hillary will carry enough of the primary vote outside the far left regions to win the nomination.
We'll see how this plays out. Bloomberg is no fan of Sanders, in fact a Sanders nomination might be enough to get him in the race. If both Trump and Sanders are the nominees, I'd say it's a near certainty that Bloomberg throws his hat in the ring. He'd have a damn good chance at winning in a general election under those circumstances and I'm sure he finds that appealing. -
A vote for Bloomberg is a vote for the nanny state and more gun control. Pass.
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Add to that his tax policies as Mayor and I'd say pass too. The reality is that for now grid lock would keep him from implementing policies that are too far left, and the thought of Trump/Sanders has a lot of people shaking and about to vomit. I believe he'd siphon votes from both sides and make things interesting.Swaye said:A vote for Bloomberg is a vote for the nanny state and more gun control. Pass.
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Having the Glenn Beck crowd against you is a positive for Trump
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It's not just the Glenn Beck crowd, long time traditional conservatives and establishment GOP have been after him as well, but your point is valid. I would say though that that positive is more true for the segment of the population that would never vote republican, and that that segment loves, in a trolling sense, the Palin endorsement.RaceBannon said:Having the Glenn Beck crowd against you is a positive for Trump
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Now compare that to a country run by hillary or sanders.Swaye said:A vote for Bloomberg is a vote for the nanny state and more gun control. Pass.
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We need some common sense profil... er, uh stop and frisk laws.doogsinparadise said:Bloomberg, who expanded and legitimized stop and frisk? That Bloomberg? Some liberal.
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And like (mostly) freeing another. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation as an EO.ThomasFremont said:
You mean like interning an entire race of people, even if they are American citizens?Southerndawg said:
I like to pretend all presidential executive orders are the same, that's what I like to do.2001400ex said:
I know you libtards see nothing wrong with Obama legislating with his phone and pen, but that is the very definition of authoritarian. It's not the number of EOs he's written, it's their content and intent. He himself declared that he took action to rewrite immigration law via EO as a means around congress, which is clearly an unconstitutional use and a massive over reach of power. I expect this concept to elude HondoFS , but some of you referring to yourselves as "liberal" should learn what that term really means before latching onto it. -
If it's unconstitutional, and Congress is Republican and clearly willing and able to open investigations on Democrats. Then why haven't they tried Obama for unconstitutional executive orders?Southerndawg said:
And like (mostly) freeing another. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation as an EO.ThomasFremont said:
You mean like interning an entire race of people, even if they are American citizens?Southerndawg said:
I like to pretend all presidential executive orders are the same, that's what I like to do.2001400ex said:
I know you libtards see nothing wrong with Obama legislating with his phone and pen, but that is the very definition of authoritarian. It's not the number of EOs he's written, it's their content and intent. He himself declared that he took action to rewrite immigration law via EO as a means around congress, which is clearly an unconstitutional use and a massive over reach of power. I expect this concept to elude HondoFS , but some of you referring to yourselves as "liberal" should learn what that term really means before latching onto it.
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Cruz won't get the nomination, the party hates him more than Trump. It's either Trump or whoever emerges from the establishment group (probably Rubio).Southerndawg said:
Bloomberg certainly has the executive experience the lawmakers in the field lack. I do think, though, it will take the realistic prospect of a Trump v Sanders general election for him to get into the race, and I still don't see that happening. IMO, Hillary will win the democrat party nomination, and most likely, Cruz will win the republican nomination.HFNY said:IMHO, Bloomberg is the 2nd most qualified candidate after Kasich.
The country needs a smart, moderate president who can work with Congress and yet the brain-dead can't stop looking at Trump / Sanders -
I don't disagree, you certainly could be right, though the establishment is bashing Rubio too, and Trump is acting more petulent than usual. Recent polls are showing he and Cruz are even in Iowa. At least we'll soon see where that goes. What a fucked up election cycle, for both parties.dnc said:
Cruz won't get the nomination, the party hates him more than Trump. It's either Trump or whoever emerges from the establishment group (probably Rubio).Southerndawg said:
Bloomberg certainly has the executive experience the lawmakers in the field lack. I do think, though, it will take the realistic prospect of a Trump v Sanders general election for him to get into the race, and I still don't see that happening. IMO, Hillary will win the democrat party nomination, and most likely, Cruz will win the republican nomination.HFNY said:IMHO, Bloomberg is the 2nd most qualified candidate after Kasich.
The country needs a smart, moderate president who can work with Congress and yet the brain-dead can't stop looking at Trump / Sanders -
Actually, the Emancipation Proclamation didn't "mostly" free the slaves, since it had no affect on the South, where the vast majority of slaves lived.Southerndawg said:
And like (mostly) freeing another. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation as an EO.ThomasFremont said:
You mean like interning an entire race of people, even if they are American citizens?Southerndawg said:
I like to pretend all presidential executive orders are the same, that's what I like to do.2001400ex said:
I know you libtards see nothing wrong with Obama legislating with his phone and pen, but that is the very definition of authoritarian. It's not the number of EOs he's written, it's their content and intent. He himself declared that he took action to rewrite immigration law via EO as a means around congress, which is clearly an unconstitutional use and a massive over reach of power. I expect this concept to elude HondoFS , but some of you referring to yourselves as "liberal" should learn what that term really means before latching onto it.
But other than that, good poont. -
Still doesn't explain what happened to the White Slaves.ThomasFremont said:
Actually, the Emancipation Proclamation didn't "mostly" free the slaves, since it had no affect on the South, where the vast majority of slaves lived.Southerndawg said:
And like (mostly) freeing another. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation as an EO.ThomasFremont said:
You mean like interning an entire race of people, even if they are American citizens?Southerndawg said:
I like to pretend all presidential executive orders are the same, that's what I like to do.2001400ex said:
I know you libtards see nothing wrong with Obama legislating with his phone and pen, but that is the very definition of authoritarian. It's not the number of EOs he's written, it's their content and intent. He himself declared that he took action to rewrite immigration law via EO as a means around congress, which is clearly an unconstitutional use and a massive over reach of power. I expect this concept to elude HondoFS , but some of you referring to yourselves as "liberal" should learn what that term really means before latching onto it.
But other than that, good poont. -
We (?) fucked up Rome good.salemcoog said:
Still doesn't explain what happened to the White Slaves.ThomasFremont said:
Actually, the Emancipation Proclamation didn't "mostly" free the slaves, since it had no affect on the South, where the vast majority of slaves lived.Southerndawg said:
And like (mostly) freeing another. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation as an EO.ThomasFremont said:
You mean like interning an entire race of people, even if they are American citizens?Southerndawg said:
I like to pretend all presidential executive orders are the same, that's what I like to do.2001400ex said:
I know you libtards see nothing wrong with Obama legislating with his phone and pen, but that is the very definition of authoritarian. It's not the number of EOs he's written, it's their content and intent. He himself declared that he took action to rewrite immigration law via EO as a means around congress, which is clearly an unconstitutional use and a massive over reach of power. I expect this concept to elude HondoFS , but some of you referring to yourselves as "liberal" should learn what that term really means before latching onto it.
But other than that, good poont. -
allpurpleallgold said:
Work with congress to do what? Anything that you work with congress on is going to be bullshit. The last thing this country needs is donor owned congress making a bunch of donor approved decisions. Shove shit down congresses throat. Trump/Sanders 2016.HFNY said:IMHO, Bloomberg is the 2nd most qualified candidate after Kasich.
The country needs a smart, moderate president who can work with Congress and yet the brain-dead can't stop looking at Trump / Sanders
The most important poast in this thread.
Congress has failed us far more than Dubya or the big zerO.
We desperately need someone to gouge out eyeballs and skullfuck Congress.
Trump/Sanders '16
