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No, I'd say clueless accountant sounds about right.PurpleJ said:Is it just me or is Hondo lying?
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Trade agreements and off shoring have gutted the middle class. Not illegals.RaceBannon said:Great I know you are but what am I response as always
So in your feeble brain if someone points out that a lot of workers in this country would benefit from middle class jobs that have been lost to legal and illegal immigration that means that person is struggling and needs help?
Sounds like you're a fucking moron -
Abundance and more. There are multiple destructions of the middle classsalemcoog said:
Trade agreements and off shoring have gutted the middle class. Not illegals.RaceBannon said:Great I know you are but what am I response as always
So in your feeble brain if someone points out that a lot of workers in this country would benefit from middle class jobs that have been lost to legal and illegal immigration that means that person is struggling and needs help?
Sounds like you're a fucking moron
It's not competing against an illegal for a job, you can get hired all day long in construction. You just have to work at the going wage that is set by illegals.
What was a middle class wage in the 70's isn't today. Yes, those who can adapt or start their own business can still thrive, but the thread is how do we help the vast middle. If we don't want to send all sorts of kids to college for no apparent reason we need to get trade schools back and make those good jobs again.
I installed carpet in the late 70's. When I left the business in 2007 installers were still getting paid the same.
Unions back the politicians who cut their throats. -
Are you saying the unions back conservatives? Really?RaceBannon said:
Abundance and more. There are multiple destructions of the middle classsalemcoog said:
Trade agreements and off shoring have gutted the middle class. Not illegals.RaceBannon said:Great I know you are but what am I response as always
So in your feeble brain if someone points out that a lot of workers in this country would benefit from middle class jobs that have been lost to legal and illegal immigration that means that person is struggling and needs help?
Sounds like you're a fucking moron
It's not competing against an illegal for a job, you can get hired all day long in construction. You just have to work at the going wage that is set by illegals.
What was a middle class wage in the 70's isn't today. Yes, those who can adapt or start their own business can still thrive, but the thread is how do we help the vast middle. If we don't want to send all sorts of kids to college for no apparent reason we need to get trade schools back and make those good jobs again.
I installed carpet in the late 70's. When I left the business in 2007 installers were still getting paid the same.
Unions back the politicians who cut their throats. -
No I'm not.2001400ex said:
Are you saying the unions back conservatives? Really?RaceBannon said:
Abundance and more. There are multiple destructions of the middle classsalemcoog said:
Trade agreements and off shoring have gutted the middle class. Not illegals.RaceBannon said:Great I know you are but what am I response as always
So in your feeble brain if someone points out that a lot of workers in this country would benefit from middle class jobs that have been lost to legal and illegal immigration that means that person is struggling and needs help?
Sounds like you're a fucking moron
It's not competing against an illegal for a job, you can get hired all day long in construction. You just have to work at the going wage that is set by illegals.
What was a middle class wage in the 70's isn't today. Yes, those who can adapt or start their own business can still thrive, but the thread is how do we help the vast middle. If we don't want to send all sorts of kids to college for no apparent reason we need to get trade schools back and make those good jobs again.
I installed carpet in the late 70's. When I left the business in 2007 installers were still getting paid the same.
Unions back the politicians who cut their throats. -
That's because the audit firms have been fucking clients for years.2001400ex said:
Market forces suck, we just had to give a $2k to $5k raises to our staff and seniors. And for bidding on audits, there still is a race to the bottom on fees.creepycoug said:The good news for me is that my pretend law practice is insulated from all market forces and tax policy ... good or bad.
That's the beauty of making shit up.
Taxes tho. Never once has an owner in the firm mentioned tax rates when discussing hiring and firing. The discussion is "show us they can be billable". In other words, they pay someone $70k, we bill them out for $150k, they make money. The owners could give a shit less about the tax rate. 40% or 35% or 25% of $80k is still more money than they have now.
And the competent folks who have been getting fucked by their partners spin off and start their own gig and take their clients with them.
All that is because you've been fucking your clients with bullshit billable hours and they looked elsewhere because they're tire of being prison raped. Be thankful for the three or four years you gave it to them up the butt. Odds are they'll stay with your firm because it's a pain in the ass to change.2001400ex said:
Market forces suck, we just had to give a $2k to $5k raises to our staff and seniors. And for bidding on audits, there still is a race to the bottom on fees.creepycoug said:The good news for me is that my pretend law practice is insulated from all market forces and tax policy ... good or bad.
That's the beauty of making shit up.
Taxes tho. Never once has an owner in the firm mentioned tax rates when discussing hiring and firing. The discussion is "show us they can be billable". In other words, they pay someone $70k, we bill them out for $150k, they make money. The owners could give a shit less about the tax rate. 40% or 35% or 25% of $80k is still more money than they have now.
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FIFYPurpleThrobber said:
That's because the audit firms have been fucking clients for years.2001400ex said:
Market forces suck, we just had to give a $2k to $5k raises to our staff and seniors. And for bidding on audits, there still is a race to the bottom on fees.creepycoug said:The good news for me is that my pretend law practice is insulated from all market forces and tax policy ... good or bad.
That's the beauty of making shit up.
Taxes tho. Never once has an owner in the firm mentioned tax rates when discussing hiring and firing. The discussion is "show us they can be billable". In other words, they pay someone $70k, we bill them out for $150k, they make money. The owners could give a shit less about the tax rate. 40% or 35% or 25% of $80k is still more money than they have now.
And the competent folks who have been getting fucked by their partners spin off and start their own gig and take their clients with them.
All that is because you've been fucking your clients with bullshit billable hours and they looked elsewhere because they're tire of being prison raped. Be thankful for the three or four years you gave it to them up the butt. Odds are they'll stay with your firm2001400ex said:
Market forces suck, we just had to give a $2k to $5k raises to our staff and seniors. And for bidding on audits, there still is a race to the bottom on fees.creepycoug said:The good news for me is that my pretend law practice is insulated from all market forces and tax policy ... good or bad.
That's the beauty of making shit up.
Taxes tho. Never once has an owner in the firm mentioned tax rates when discussing hiring and firing. The discussion is "show us they can be billable". In other words, they pay someone $70k, we bill them out for $150k, they make money. The owners could give a shit less about the tax rate. 40% or 35% or 25% of $80k is still more money than they have now.because it's a pain in the ass to change.because I'm great at taint liking. -
Are you really implying Democrats haven't sold them out?2001400ex said:
Are you saying the unions back conservatives? Really?RaceBannon said:
Abundance and more. There are multiple destructions of the middle classsalemcoog said:
Trade agreements and off shoring have gutted the middle class. Not illegals.RaceBannon said:Great I know you are but what am I response as always
So in your feeble brain if someone points out that a lot of workers in this country would benefit from middle class jobs that have been lost to legal and illegal immigration that means that person is struggling and needs help?
Sounds like you're a fucking moron
It's not competing against an illegal for a job, you can get hired all day long in construction. You just have to work at the going wage that is set by illegals.
What was a middle class wage in the 70's isn't today. Yes, those who can adapt or start their own business can still thrive, but the thread is how do we help the vast middle. If we don't want to send all sorts of kids to college for no apparent reason we need to get trade schools back and make those good jobs again.
I installed carpet in the late 70's. When I left the business in 2007 installers were still getting paid the same.
Unions back the politicians who cut their throats. -
Are you saying liberals are the reason for the decline in unions?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Are you really implying Democrats haven't sold them out?2001400ex said:
Are you saying the unions back conservatives? Really?RaceBannon said:
Abundance and more. There are multiple destructions of the middle classsalemcoog said:
Trade agreements and off shoring have gutted the middle class. Not illegals.RaceBannon said:Great I know you are but what am I response as always
So in your feeble brain if someone points out that a lot of workers in this country would benefit from middle class jobs that have been lost to legal and illegal immigration that means that person is struggling and needs help?
Sounds like you're a fucking moron
It's not competing against an illegal for a job, you can get hired all day long in construction. You just have to work at the going wage that is set by illegals.
What was a middle class wage in the 70's isn't today. Yes, those who can adapt or start their own business can still thrive, but the thread is how do we help the vast middle. If we don't want to send all sorts of kids to college for no apparent reason we need to get trade schools back and make those good jobs again.
I installed carpet in the late 70's. When I left the business in 2007 installers were still getting paid the same.
Unions back the politicians who cut their throats. -
Bingo bango bongo baby on the bolded section. Why anyone nowadays would send their kids to college to become hundreds of thousands of debt outta of the gate without a distinct highly marketable, n demand career path is beyond me. Better to be a steamfitter, electrician,developer or doctor and lawyer or such.RaceBannon said:
Abundance and more. There are multiple destructions of the middle classsalemcoog said:
Trade agreements and off shoring have gutted the middle class. Not illegals.RaceBannon said:Great I know you are but what am I response as always
So in your feeble brain if someone points out that a lot of workers in this country would benefit from middle class jobs that have been lost to legal and illegal immigration that means that person is struggling and needs help?
Sounds like you're a fucking moron
It's not competing against an illegal for a job, you can get hired all day long in construction. You just have to work at the going wage that is set by illegals.
What was a middle class wage in the 70's isn't today. Yes, those who can adapt or start their own business can still thrive, but the thread is how do we help the vast middle. If we don't want to send all sorts of kids to college for no apparent reason we need to get trade schools back and make those good jobs again.
I installed carpet in the late 70's. When I left the business in 2007 installers were still getting paid the same.
Unions back the politicians who cut their throats.
