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RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
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A PTI rip off

For the next ten years, who you got

Cam Newton

Russell Wilson

I would buy them both (profile in courage) but if I have to pick one, I take Cam. And I don't hate the Hawks or the 12s and will be rooting for Seattle

Cam is bigger which means he should have a longer career. I like his arm strength.

Intangibles are all Russell so far. This is a huge game for Newton. No one wants to be Manning to Wilson's Brady
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    This is a cop out, but whoever wins this game. They'll probably be 1-2 (unless rodgers can last into his late 30's) in 5 years
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    I would go with Russell Wilson. Tough call though.
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  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Couldn't agree more.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Both are incredible, but what Cam has done this year, is nothing short of amazing. Take Cam Newton off the field, and this team not only misses the playoffs, but could have finished last in their division.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    TheGlove said:

    Couldn't agree more.

    Thanks BEAVER!
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  • SpoonieLuv
    SpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,463
    Not a hook homer but I see Cam being poised for a meltdown at some point and reverting to his Florida primadonna state.

    Russ is too worried about protecting his heterosexual image and not breaking out in tears during a presser to ever lose. I'll take Closet Russ.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    RaceBannon said:

    A PTI rip off

    For the next ten years, who you got


    Intangibles are all Russell so far. This is a huge game for Newton. No one wants to be Manning to Wilson's Brady

    Not a good comparison at least to this point. Up until this Season Cam hasn't had a team in the top half of the league.
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  • section_332
    section_332 Member Posts: 2,403
    First off I would take Luck over both

    But between the 2, Russ
    Cameron's running style is just asking to get hurt one of these days, he takes contact on
    Russ has figured out he ain't the biggest strongest mother fucker and gets outta bounce
    Both are leaders through and through. But I'd want Russ experience over Cameron's athletic gifts.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,374 Founders Club
    Russell in a heartbeat. His mind, maturity and work ethic put him on a level above.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    section_332 said:

    First off I would take Luck over both

    But between the 2, Russ
    Cameron's running style is just asking to get hurt one of these days, he takes contact on
    Russ has figured out he ain't the biggest strongest mother fucker and gets outta bounce
    Both are leaders through and through. But I'd want Russ experience over Cameron's athletic gifts.

    ROFL.

    I'd go with Russ.

    Cam not so close 2nd.

    Luck is overrated. He has more in common with RG3 than the others.
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  • section_332
    section_332 Member Posts: 2,403
    ThomasFremont said:

    section_332 said:

    First off I would take Luck over both

    But between the 2, Russ
    Cameron's running style is just asking to get hurt one of these days, he takes contact on
    Russ has figured out he ain't the biggest strongest mother fucker and gets outta bounce
    Both are leaders through and through. But I'd want Russ experience over Cameron's athletic gifts.

    ROFL.

    I'd go with Russ.

    Cam not so close 2nd.

    Luck is overrated. He has more in common with RG3 than the others.
    Considering Luck has never had a running game, defense, or a coherent offensive line...and has still been to the AFC title game.....id say he's overrated also
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    section_332 said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    section_332 said:

    First off I would take Luck over both

    But between the 2, Russ
    Cameron's running style is just asking to get hurt one of these days, he takes contact on
    Russ has figured out he ain't the biggest strongest mother fucker and gets outta bounce
    Both are leaders through and through. But I'd want Russ experience over Cameron's athletic gifts.

    ROFL.

    I'd go with Russ.

    Cam not so close 2nd.

    Luck is overrated. He has more in common with RG3 than the others.
    Considering Luck has never had a running game, defense, or a coherent offensive line...and has still been to the AFC title game.....id say he's overrated also
    Russel's worst season was watching the defense give up the game winning FG in the divisional round.

    But grats to Luck for making it all the way to the AFC champ game...once...and losing.
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  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    Wilson.

    Wilson never folds. Cam is resilient, but has some quit in him. Also, Wilson throw a better deep ball.

    Don't get me wrong...I like Cam a lot. Dude is a gamer and talented as hell. I'd be happy with him. But Wilson is better.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RaceBannon said:

    By 50

    But the balls were deflated!!1!
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    I'll take Tom Brady.
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  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    Russell Wilson is a champion. Cam is an immature overgrown child with what, 1 playoff win? I'm going with Russell
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    salemcoog said:

    RaceBannon said:

    A PTI rip off

    For the next ten years, who you got


    Intangibles are all Russell so far. This is a huge game for Newton. No one wants to be Manning to Wilson's Brady

    Not a good comparison at least to this point. Up until this Season Cam hasn't had a team in the top half of the league.
    They were 12-4 two years ago.
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  • section_332
    section_332 Member Posts: 2,403
    Russell's football intelligence is far superior to the others. Luck wants to throw in tight Windows and double teams. Cameron wants to fire that fucking pigskin

    Luck has also had 3 different OC in his career. Cameron and Russ have had 1.

    I was talking with a buddy other day, and does Russ have the power to change plays at the LOS? I know Cameron and Luck do...
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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    edited January 2016
    Hard not to love Russ but If you polled all 30 NFL GMs to a man they'd choose Newton.

    If the Hawks win this weekend I'm going with little Russ
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Baseman said:

    Hard not to love Russ but If you polled all 30 NFL GMs to a man they'd choose Newton.

    If the Hawks win this weekend I'm going with little Russ

    Disagree
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    section_332 said:

    Russell's football intelligence is far superior to the others. Luck wants to throw in tight Windows and double teams. Cameron wants to fire that fucking pigskin

    Luck has also had 3 different OC in his career. Cameron and Russ have had 1.

    I was talking with a buddy other day, and does Russ have the power to change plays at the LOS? I know Cameron and Luck do...

    Russ checked out of a run and into the pass that Kearse caught to beat the Packers in OT last year. I don't know if he checks as much as some but he definitely has the go ahead.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Any NFL QB could change a play at the LOS.

    I'm sure the franchise player is allowed to make some calls...
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Baseman said:

    Hard not to love Russ but If you polled all 30 NFL GMs to a man they'd choose Newton.

    If the Hawks win this weekend I'm going with little Russ

    *32.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    doogsinparadise said:

    Baseman said:

    Hard not to love Russ but If you polled all 30 NFL GMs to a man they'd choose Newton.

    If the Hawks win this weekend I'm going with little Russ

    *32.
    I just ASSumed he meant the other 30 GM's. Pretty obvious Schneider's taking Russell. If he meant all 32 GM's, W. JW.
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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    dnc said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    Baseman said:

    Hard not to love Russ but If you polled all 30 NFL GMs to a man they'd choose Newton.

    If the Hawks win this weekend I'm going with little Russ

    *32.
    I just ASSumed he meant the other 30 GM's. Pretty obvious Schneider's taking Russell. If he meant all 32 GM's, W. JW.
    Yes the other 30 GM's. Also the thread topic is BUY OR SELL . Excluding SEA and CAR, the rest of the GM's around the league "buy" Newton.

    Ask the 32 NFL head coaches who they want with the ball on a last game drive with their team behind by less than a touchdown- most pick Wilson.

    This weekend will go along way in answering the question: Can Newton deliver in a big game against the NFL's best defense? Can Wilson win on the road against the team with the best regular season record?

    #winnerswin
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