Matt Calkins: Why the Huskies need Lorenzo Romar
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And there you have it. He gets great recruits (true), and has gotten 13 players to the NBA (true). I look at both of those facts as more of indictment of him then a positive. Name one coach who put 13 players in the NBA in a 12 year span and only managed to even make the dance at a .500 clip?
I know this year recruiting class isn't a Kentucky class, but it isn't in a different solar system from one of theirs either. Number 6 in the nation. Think Coach K or Calipari would have lost to Santa Barbara with this team?
Izzo would have had a couple Final Fours with the teams Romar has had...and made the dance like 10 out of twelve years. I firmly believe that.
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Sickening article. Par for the ST course I guess.
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For all the same reasons Oregon should have kept Ernesto
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I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again. -
Sounds like Petersen, minus the "somewhat relevant" moment...Tequilla said:I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again. -
I honestly can't tell if you're trying to be colin coherd fucking retarded and annoying or honestly believe romar has any business being a head coach at UW.ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like Petersen, minus the "somewhat relevant" moment...Tequilla said:I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again.
Either way, tip of the cap. -
And just in the event you're being half serious, CP has put more guys in the nfl than most elite programs and actually won more BCS games than 95% of elite top 5 conference programs. I'll be the first to say I have no fucing clue if he makes it at UW, but to even place romar on CP's level is an embarrassment to CP. At least he has taken a lot less talent, made it better and actually won games. Where as Romar has taken far superior talent, middled or worse, and won nothing resembling a big game in his career.ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like Petersen, minus the "somewhat relevant" moment...Tequilla said:I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again. -
So what you're saying is they hired the white Jerry Brewer? Unpossible.
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Romar has put a lot of players into the NBA relative to most power 5 programs. Now you are saying having had NFL talent makes Pete good. But that was listed earlier as a reason why Romar sucks. Can't have it both ways.FreeChavez said:
And just in the event you're being half serious, CP has put more guys in the nfl than most elite programs and actually won more BCS games than 95% of elite top 5 conference programs. I'll be the first to say I have no fucing clue if he makes it at UW, but to even place romar on CP's level is an embarrassment to CP. At least he has taken a lot less talent, made it better and actually won games. Where as Romar has taken far superior talent, middled or worse, and won nothing resembling a big game in his career.ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like Petersen, minus the "somewhat relevant" moment...Tequilla said:I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again.
Nobody fucking cares what Pete did at Boise junior college anymore. So far he is a total failure at UW. However, Romar has had some highlights at the Pac-12 level (conference championships, tournament runs). Levels of success Pete hasn't even sniffed while coaching at the big boy table.
That is pretty fucking sad when you think about it. Romar is better than Petersen. And Romar should be coaching at some private 1A church high school at best.
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Dude, you're seriously high. Romar putting guys in the nba means dick for UW when it doesn't produce results. CP has put players in the nfl AND produced results such as BCS wins, wins against oregon, etc. Romar has never won any than a round of 32 game with all the talent he has.ThomasFremont said:
Romar has put a lot of players into the NBA relative to most power 5 programs. Now you are saying having had NFL talent makes Pete good. But that was listed earlier as a reason why Romar sucks. Can't have it both ways.FreeChavez said:
And just in the event you're being half serious, CP has put more guys in the nfl than most elite programs and actually won more BCS games than 95% of elite top 5 conference programs. I'll be the first to say I have no fucing clue if he makes it at UW, but to even place romar on CP's level is an embarrassment to CP. At least he has taken a lot less talent, made it better and actually won games. Where as Romar has taken far superior talent, middled or worse, and won nothing resembling a big game in his career.ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like Petersen, minus the "somewhat relevant" moment...Tequilla said:I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again.
Nobody fucking cares what Pete did at Boise junior college anymore. So far he is a total failure at UW. However, Romar has had some highlights at the Pac-12 level (conference championships, tournament runs). Levels of success Pete hasn't even sniffed while coaching at the big boy table.
That is pretty fucking sad when you think about it. Romar is better than Petersen. And Romar should be coaching at some private 1A church high school at best.
But, as always, I support coach Romar.
Romar is in year fucking 13 at UW and has missed a 68 team post season 4 years running(this will be his 5th this year), with all the talent he's had. CP has made bowls and was left a frat house with no QB's on the roster that should be in the pac12.
Sure, comparing year 3 and year 14 is apples and apples, especially when you consider how hard it is to turn a football program vs it a bball program.
You're right, i'm glad you are the lone doog left who supports a shitcan losing product. -
Come on man this isn't a serious post right? Romar didn't do anything significant until year 3 and has been terribly inconsistent since sans a 3 year period with IT.ThomasFremont said:
Romar has put a lot of players into the NBA relative to most power 5 programs. Now you are saying having had NFL talent makes Pete good. But that was listed earlier as a reason why Romar sucks. Can't have it both ways.FreeChavez said:
And just in the event you're being half serious, CP has put more guys in the nfl than most elite programs and actually won more BCS games than 95% of elite top 5 conference programs. I'll be the first to say I have no fucing clue if he makes it at UW, but to even place romar on CP's level is an embarrassment to CP. At least he has taken a lot less talent, made it better and actually won games. Where as Romar has taken far superior talent, middled or worse, and won nothing resembling a big game in his career.ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like Petersen, minus the "somewhat relevant" moment...Tequilla said:I don't think that the writer had a single tangible thought in the entire article ...
For those that use the whole "what was the program before Romar" argument in looking at relevance ... how many people are showing up to watch the games now? In other words, they aren't relevant now. So what Romar has really done is taken a program from irrelevant, made it somewhat relevant, pushed his chips into the middle for one and done guys, failed, and now has turned the program relatively irrelevant again.
Nobody fucking cares what Pete did at Boise junior college anymore. So far he is a total failure at UW. However, Romar has had some highlights at the Pac-12 level (conference championships, tournament runs). Levels of success Pete hasn't even sniffed while coaching at the big boy table.
That is pretty fucking sad when you think about it. Romar is better than Petersen. And Romar should be coaching at some private 1A church high school at best.
But, as always, I support coach Romar.
I'm fine with you saying Pete hasn't done shit yet but to say Romar has while having coached over 6x as many years at UW is retarded. -
Romar made the tourney in year 2. Despite all the NBA talent, people seem to forget that often that was surrounded by the likes of Hans Gasser, Tim Morris, and a bunch of other players I choose to forget.
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If you don't like Romar, you should hate Petersen.
HTH.
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Apples and OrangesThomasFremont said:If you don't like Romar, you should hate Petersen.
HTH.
#WeWereAFootballSchool
We get it that you don't like Pete.
You don't need to hijack every thread to beat your chest to that fact. We get it. -
I'll stop if everyone else stops sucking off Mr. 8-10 fucking loser coach Pete.Tequilla said:
Apples and OrangesThomasFremont said:If you don't like Romar, you should hate Petersen.
HTH.
#WeWereAFootballSchool
We get it that you don't like Pete.
You don't need to hijack every thread to beat your chest to that fact. We get it.
Deal? -
If you're just here to beat your chest you won't last longThomasFremont said:
I'll stop if everyone else stops sucking off Mr. 8-10 fucking loser coach Pete.Tequilla said:
Apples and OrangesThomasFremont said:If you don't like Romar, you should hate Petersen.
HTH.
#WeWereAFootballSchool
We get it that you don't like Pete.
You don't need to hijack every thread to beat your chest to that fact. We get it.
Deal?
Anyone notice that this site is going full doog all day all the time? -
I noticed, Race. I noticed.RaceBannon said:
If you're just here to beat your chest you won't last longThomasFremont said:
I'll stop if everyone else stops sucking off Mr. 8-10 fucking loser coach Pete.Tequilla said:
Apples and OrangesThomasFremont said:If you don't like Romar, you should hate Petersen.
HTH.
#WeWereAFootballSchool
We get it that you don't like Pete.
You don't need to hijack every thread to beat your chest to that fact. We get it.
Deal?
Anyone notice that this site is going full doog all day all the time? -
There's more good than bad with what Pete has done ... he hasn't been perfect the last 2 years for sure. He could have perhaps won a few more games by compromising his long term vision. In the end, does it really matter given the last 2 years weren't conference winning caliber teams given the QB play?
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Throw away seasons?
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Romar should be fired immediately and Pete should also be fired immediately if a Starbucks trucks can be backed up onto Chip's driveway, else Pete should be fired next year if he can't win the North at a minimum.
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He could have won a couple more games by not being a retard. Giving Gaskin more carries while a freshman QB was struggling wouldn't compromise any long term vision.Tequilla said:There's more good than bad with what Pete has done ... he hasn't been perfect the last 2 years for sure. He could have perhaps won a few more games by compromising his long term vision. In the end, does it really matter given the last 2 years weren't conference winning caliber teams given the QB play?
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You'd be easier to talk to if you weren't constantly regurgitating Pool Boy talking poonts.Tequilla said:There's more good than bad with what Pete has done ... he hasn't been perfect the last 2 years for sure. He could have perhaps won a few more games by compromising his long term vision. In the end, does it really matter given the last 2 years weren't conference winning caliber teams given the QB play?
8-10 means he has been more bad than good.
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Pro tip: CCCP is going to make it at UW.FreeChavez said:I'll be the first to say I have no fucing clue if he makes it at UW, but to even place romar on CP's level is an embarrassment to CP.
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Agree w/Tequila that one-and-dones (and some two-and-dones) have been terrible for the program and set it back. The two other areas we suck at are 1. Recruiting real Point Guards, versus converting shooting guards, and 2. Recruiting 7 footers who play like middle-schoolers. Having Abdul-Gaddy, Williams-Goss (good player, bad point guard), and even Andrews (good player, below average point guard) bringing the ball up makes us look like we're in slow motion compared to our competition, and 7-Footer project guys like Njaye (sp.) are painful to watch & not ready for prime time.
Hiring Conroy on staff was a good move. Should help with recruiting and brings Brandon Roy and other local NBA vets down to Hec-Ed a lot to help out. -
Does that mean Garfield High School's recruiting slush fund will take a hit?TurdBuffer said:Agree w/Tequila that one-and-dones (and some two-and-dones) have been terrible for the program and set it back. The two other areas we suck at are 1. Recruiting real Point Guards, versus converting shooting guards, and 2. Recruiting 7 footers who play like middle-schoolers. Having Abdul-Gaddy, Williams-Goss (good player, bad point guard), and even Andrews (good player, below average point guard) bringing the ball up makes us look like we're in slow motion compared to our competition, and 7-Footer project guys like Njaye (sp.) are painful to watch & not ready for prime time.
Hiring Conroy on staff was a good move. Should help with recruiting and brings Brandon Roy and other local NBA vets down to Hec-Ed a lot to help out. -
@Throbber: I'm not following you. I'm familiar with the Tony Wroten situation, transfers, faux transfers, etc. But if you're alleging cash-in-cups, do tell. I don't know about that. But shit man, this thread's about Romar. Why hijack it & make it about Garfield? I'm sure there'll be threads on that stuff shortly.
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Everybody likes Starbucks cups in AAU.TurdBuffer said:@Throbber: I'm not following you. I'm familiar with the Tony Wroten situation, transfers, faux transfers, etc. But if you're alleging cash-in-cups, do tell. I don't know about that. But shit man, this thread's about Romar. Why hijack it & make it about Garfield? I'm sure there'll be threads on that stuff shortly.
And you are correct. Now that Bellevue is out in the light of day, Garfield most deservedly is in the que. After Beach. -
@PurpleThrobber: I await your decryption, then.
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Here's the takeaways from this article:
Of course, this column wouldn’t be necessary if there were no controversy about whether Romar is still fit for the job. The 57-year-old is the only active Pac-12 coach to have missed the Big Dance in four consecutive seasons (and during this streak the Pac-12 has been the 2nd worst conf. of the power 5. Not like he's running a gauntlet of NC/Duke/Virginia/Maryland/etc each season to play thru)
Before Romar was hired, no Washington basketball coach had taken the team to more than three NCAA tournaments. Romar has gone to six in the past 13 years. (and most never had a Pac-12 tourney to use as a way to get in. For sure 1 maybe 2 of teams that got it would not have without winning the Pac-12 tourney. Take those away and now it's only 4 or 5 out of 13 years)
UW treats men's BB like Mariner's ownership treats product on field:
Don't completely suck, don't be an embarrassment. Anything above that is a bonus.
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So can we demote him to assistant HC and recruiting coordinator, and get a guy that knows how to coach?Swaye said:And there you have it. He gets great recruits (true), and has gotten 13 players to the NBA (true). I look at both of those facts as more of indictment of him then a positive. Name one coach who put 13 players in the NBA in a 12 year span and only managed to even make the dance at a .500 clip?
