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Fun With Charts: Health Premiums Have Climbed $4,865 Since Obama Promised to Cut Them $2,500

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  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    mobey said:

    d2d said:

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    Since 2008, average family premiums have climbed a total of $4,865. The White House cheered the news, saying it was a sign of continued slow growth in premium costs.

    "We will start," Obama said back in 2008, "by reducing premiums by as much as $2,500 per family."
    HDB's ??? A retort ??? (BTW, that doesn't mean you get to commit two torts.)

    news.investors.com/blogs-capital-hill/092315-772384-premiums-have-steadily-climbed-despite-obama-promise-to-cut-them.htm#ixzz3qaJ0Rgab
    So according to your chart they increased 41% under 7 years of Obama (on pace for 47% in 8 years) and 100% under 8 years of Bush...

    Was that the point?

    OBAMACARE IS BUSH'S FAULT !!!

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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

    ... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

    ... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States.
    You hate facts. And prefer lies and rumors.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    I know the truth and I don't suck Hillary's cock.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

    ... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States.
    This is such an ignorant fallacy -- I thought only posters like d2d were capable of believing the arguments made by the health care insurence lobby.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    OZONE said:

    Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

    ... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States.
    This is such an ignorant fallacy -- I thought only posters like d2d were capable of believing the arguments made by the health care insurence lobby.
    You could always do what I did and research an actual procedure, in a real country and speak with the facility to get an actual estimate... rather than rely on Obama's stooges to tell you what to think.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited November 2015

    OZONE said:

    Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

    ... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States.
    This is such an ignorant fallacy -- I thought only posters like d2d were capable of believing the arguments made by the health care insurence lobby.
    You could always do what I did and research an actual procedure, in a real country and speak with the facility to get an actual estimate... rather than rely on Obama's stooges to tell you what to think.
    My wife has relatives in Sweden and when we stayed with them we spoke to them about their healthcare system. They were happy with it.

    But you wrote this:

    "... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States."

    So, from your "in-depth study", you've applied the results to all of the other first world countries that have single payer healthcare?

    Have you published your study anywhere for review? Otherwise it just sounds like shit made up by an anonymous poster on a message board.

    BTW, many studies have been published that show that the US ranks somewhere between 20 and 30 against the other first world countries in health care quality. Though our costs ranks 1st.

    I'm guessing you are a shill for the health insurance industry.

    BTW, the pro-single payer movement in the US predates the current president, and will continue after he leaves office.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Young people don't get sick.

    #thatsthejoke
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    Young people don't get sick.

    #thatsthejoke

    Cool, but again, you wrote this:

    "... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States."

    Can you prove this with your study? Otherwise it is BS you made up.


  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,124 Standard Supporter
    OZONE said:

    Young people don't get sick.

    #thatsthejoke

    Cool, but again, you wrote this:

    "... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States."

    Can you prove this with your study? Otherwise it is BS you made up.


    correct

    Yes, you somtimes have to wait for minor surgery and elective surgery in the evil socialist countries. This Canadian I know used to bitch about it. Nobody dies because they had to wait 10 days for the emergency appendectomy.