Fun With Charts: Health Premiums Have Climbed $4,865 Since Obama Promised to Cut Them $2,500

d2d

mobey said:

d2d said:

Since 2008, average family premiums have climbed a total of $4,865. The White House cheered the news, saying it was a sign of continued slow growth in premium costs.

"We will start," Obama said back in 2008, "by reducing premiums by as much as $2,500 per family."

HDB's ??? A retort ??? (BTW, that doesn't mean you get to commit two torts.)

news.investors.com/blogs-capital-hill/092315-772384-premiums-have-steadily-climbed-despite-obama-promise-to-cut-them.htm#ixzz3qaJ0Rgab

So according to your chart they increased 41% under 7 years of Obama (on pace for 47% in 8 years) and 100% under 8 years of Bush...

Was that the point?

OBAMACARE IS BUSH'S FAULT !!!

sarktastic

UWhuskytskeet said:

Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States.

2001400ex

sarktastic said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States.

You hate facts. And prefer lies and rumors.

sarktastic

I know the truth and I don't suck Hillary's cock.

OZONE

sarktastic said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States.

This is such an ignorant fallacy -- I thought only posters like d2d were capable of believing the arguments made by the health care insurence lobby.

sarktastic

OZONE said:

sarktastic said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States.

This is such an ignorant fallacy -- I thought only posters like d2d were capable of believing the arguments made by the health care insurence lobby.

You could always do what I did and research an actual procedure, in a real country and speak with the facility to get an actual estimate... rather than rely on Obama's stooges to tell you what to think.

OZONE

sarktastic said:

OZONE said:

sarktastic said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States.

This is such an ignorant fallacy -- I thought only posters like d2d were capable of believing the arguments made by the health care insurence lobby.

You could always do what I did and research an actual procedure, in a real country and speak with the facility to get an actual estimate... rather than rely on Obama's stooges to tell you what to think.

My wife has relatives in Sweden and when we stayed with them we spoke to them about their healthcare system. They were happy with it.

But you wrote this:

"... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States."

So, from your "in-depth study", you've applied the results to all of the other first world countries that have single payer healthcare?

Have you published your study anywhere for review? Otherwise it just sounds like shit made up by an anonymous poster on a message board.

BTW, many studies have been published that show that the US ranks somewhere between 20 and 30 against the other first world countries in health care quality. Though our costs ranks 1st.

I'm guessing you are a shill for the health insurance industry.

BTW, the pro-single payer movement in the US predates the current president, and will continue after he leaves office.

sarktastic

Young people don't get sick.

#thatsthejoke

OZONE

sarktastic said:

Young people don't get sick.

#thatsthejoke

Cool, but again, you wrote this:

"... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States."

Can you prove this with your study? Otherwise it is BS you made up.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

OZONE said:

sarktastic said:

Young people don't get sick.

#thatsthejoke

Cool, but again, you wrote this:

"... an anyone from said country either dies waiting for medical care or, pays cash for treatment in the United States."

Can you prove this with your study? Otherwise it is BS you made up.

correct

Yes, you somtimes have to wait for minor surgery and elective surgery in the evil socialist countries. This Canadian I know used to bitch about it. Nobody dies because they had to wait 10 days for the emergency appendectomy.