Fun With Charts: Health Premiums Have Climbed $4,865 Since Obama Promised to Cut Them $2,500

d2d

Since 2008, average family premiums have climbed a total of $4,865. The White House cheered the news, saying it was a sign of continued slow growth in premium costs.

"We will start," Obama said back in 2008, "by reducing premiums by as much as $2,500 per family."

HDB's ??? A retort ??? (BTW, that doesn't mean you get to commit two torts.)

news.investors.com/blogs-capital-hill/092315-772384-premiums-have-steadily-climbed-despite-obama-promise-to-cut-them.htm#ixzz3qaJ0Rgab

2001400ex

Death,, lying or not understanding facts, as always.

d2d

Wow. The Hipster Douche Bag Seal of Approval...

allpurpleallgold

Sadly this thread is evidence that the death panels are not working.

d2d

RaceBannon

allpurpleallgold said:

Sadly this thread is evidence that the death panels are not working.

I HAVEN'T MOVED

mobey

d2d said:

Since 2008, average family premiums have climbed a total of $4,865. The White House cheered the news, saying it was a sign of continued slow growth in premium costs.

"We will start," Obama said back in 2008, "by reducing premiums by as much as $2,500 per family."

HDB's ??? A retort ??? (BTW, that doesn't mean you get to commit two torts.)

news.investors.com/blogs-capital-hill/092315-772384-premiums-have-steadily-climbed-despite-obama-promise-to-cut-them.htm#ixzz3qaJ0Rgab

So according to your chart they increased 41% under 7 years of Obama (on pace for 47% in 8 years) and 100% under 8 years of Bush...

Was that the point?

sarktastic

2001400ex said:

Death,, lying or not understanding facts, as always.

So, then, why do you keep doing it, Hondo?

HFNY

I think the point is that premiums rose dramatically under Bush and then Obama campaigned (lied) that he'd fix the healthcare problem but the dreck has continued.

The base was so high after the premiums rose 100% under Bush that a projected 47% increase is also inexcusable, especially Big Government Libs hung their hats on the ACA.

Lies, lies, and more lies.

mobey said:

d2d said:

Since 2008, average family premiums have climbed a total of $4,865. The White House cheered the news, saying it was a sign of continued slow growth in premium costs.

"We will start," Obama said back in 2008, "by reducing premiums by as much as $2,500 per family."

HDB's ??? A retort ??? (BTW, that doesn't mean you get to commit two torts.)

news.investors.com/blogs-capital-hill/092315-772384-premiums-have-steadily-climbed-despite-obama-promise-to-cut-them.htm#ixzz3qaJ0Rgab

So according to your chart they increased 41% under 7 years of Obama (on pace for 47% in 8 years) and 100% under 8 years of Bush...

Was that the point?

sarktastic

The point is... ever since HILLARY fucked with healthcare, we've been fucked.

Check the facts.

HuskyJW

People actually pay health premiums?

EL-OH-EL

HFNY

Probably what bothers me most is that we have such a convoluted, screwed up, byzantine health care system that a mile wide but an inch deep.

With Medicare and Medicaid already over 50% of health care spending, it may actually make more sense to go to a single payer. Either that, or privatize the whole dang thing. What Obamacare did was make the problem worse since there are still 19 million uninsured....people who are too lazy or stupid to sign up (except for those who do the cost-benefit analysis and would rather pay $695 in fines in 2016 rather than sign-up for heftier premiums....the fines will continue to go up though).

sarktastic said:

The point is... ever since HILLARY fucked with healthcare, we've been fucked.

Check the facts.

UWhuskytskeet

Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

pawz

HFNY said:

I think the point is that premiums rose dramatically under Bush and then Obama campaigned (lied) that he'd fix the healthcare problem but the dreck has continued.

The base was so high after the premiums rose 100% under Bush that a projected 47% increase is also inexcusable, especially Big Government Libs hung their hats on the ACA.

Lies, lies, and more lies.

mobey said:

d2d said:

Since 2008, average family premiums have climbed a total of $4,865. The White House cheered the news, saying it was a sign of continued slow growth in premium costs.

"We will start," Obama said back in 2008, "by reducing premiums by as much as $2,500 per family."

HDB's ??? A retort ??? (BTW, that doesn't mean you get to commit two torts.)

news.investors.com/blogs-capital-hill/092315-772384-premiums-have-steadily-climbed-despite-obama-promise-to-cut-them.htm#ixzz3qaJ0Rgab

So according to your chart they increased 41% under 7 years of Obama (on pace for 47% in 8 years) and 100% under 8 years of Bush...

Was that the point?

I like how LIBS don't understand compound interest. I also like to blame the 1% whilst not understanding how compound interest might work against me in the bidness relationships with the 1%. I do this.

Wait, what were we talking about?

PurpleJ

mobey said:

d2d said:

Since 2008, average family premiums have climbed a total of $4,865. The White House cheered the news, saying it was a sign of continued slow growth in premium costs.

"We will start," Obama said back in 2008, "by reducing premiums by as much as $2,500 per family."

HDB's ??? A retort ??? (BTW, that doesn't mean you get to commit two torts.)

news.investors.com/blogs-capital-hill/092315-772384-premiums-have-steadily-climbed-despite-obama-promise-to-cut-them.htm#ixzz3qaJ0Rgab

So according to your chart they increased 41% under 7 years of Obama (on pace for 47% in 8 years) and 100% under 8 years of Bush...

Was that the point?
About a $6000 increase for each guy.

But how are percentage increases higher when you start with a lower number?

Tequilla

Obama really CARES about cutting healthcare premiums ... you just don't understand how HARD it is to do so.

2001400ex

Death likes to post charts that don't take into account subsidies in premiums by the government or employers. Cause that's what death likes to do.

sarktastic

Where does that money come from?

OZONE

UWhuskytskeet said:

Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

And has, on average, a higher quality of health care.

Much of the US health $ goes to keeping people alive for an extra month because too many americans aren't willing to except the next stage in their harmonic energy. They should do more yoga and just fucking LEAVE when their time is up.

And in the case of poasters on this bored, it isn't like those extra 30 days are going to help you see the day when the UW wins a Rose Bowl again.

HuskyInAZ

OZONE said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

Every country in the world that uses single payer health care pays less than the US per capita. It's the pretty obvious answer.

And has, on average, a higher quality of health care.

Much of the US health $ goes to keeping people alive for an extra month because too many americans aren't willing to except the next stage in their harmonic energy. They should do more yoga and just fucking LEAVE when their time is up.

And in the case of poasters on this bored, it isn't like those extra 30 days are going to help you see the day when the UW wins a Rose Bowl again.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with @OZONE. Single payer for all is the only answer.

OZONE

Obviously, it should have been accept, not except, but I noticed it too late to fix it.