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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778

    I'm not optimistic enough to think that Petersen is going to magically unfuck himself in 2016.

    Neither am I, but if the offense can get 2 more TDs a game it will be a 10 win team
    Sounds like you deal in hypotheticals.
  • wobidbus
    wobidbus Member Posts: 308
    The announcers last night kept mentioning how Hogan is successful in Stanford's "complicated offense relative to the rest of CFB", which made me think about two things:

    1) Is the Smuth/Petermun offense similar in that more experienced players would be able to execute properly?
    2) Does the route to success really require lighting two seasons on fire in order to reap rewards down the line?

    Petersen is playing a high stakes game by basically throwing these first two seasons out the window in hopes of getting the offense kicked into high gear in year fucking three or four. I survived the last 15 years of bullshit, but another two seems like an eternity. Fuck me.
  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    Great post I feel it. But you and the rest of this bored know deep down that we are going to suck ass again next year, the year after that, the year after that, and obviously the year after we get a new head coach.

    My cousin in NY had a friend who went his whole life making the wrong decisions. Then one day he started doing the complete opposite of everything he would normally do. Lo and behold his shit started working out wonderfully once he started completely ignoring every urge to its common sense and good judgment he had ever had. This is no crazy notion; I believe this is becoming our new religion and the identity of our team.

    Now will it work out in the grand scheme of things? I believe even @GrandpaSankey has seen how this one plays out.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168

    I'm not optimistic enough to think that Petersen is going to magically unfuck himself in 2016.

    Neither am I, but if the offense can get 2 more TDs a game it will be a 10 win team
    You say that so casually. Going from 24 PPG to 38 PPG is a massive improvement. You can bet your ass it's the kind of improvement Jimmy Smith is not capable of.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    wobidbus said:

    The announcers last night kept mentioning how Hogan is successful in Stanford's "complicated offense relative to the rest of CFB", which made me think about two things:

    1) Is the Smuth/Petermun offense similar in that more experienced players would be able to execute properly?
    2) Does the route to success really require lighting two seasons on fire in order to reap rewards down the line?

    Petersen is playing a high stakes game by basically throwing these first two seasons out the window in hopes of getting the offense kicked into high gear in year fucking three or four. I survived the last 15 years of bullshit, but another two seems like an eternity. Fuck me.

    If he's throwing away games and seasons, then he should be fired. These players are here for 3-5 years. Ruining at least 2 of those seasons for them is criminal. Fuck his system and process. Do whatever it takes to win NOW. By constantly laying giant turds on the field, you are breaking down the morale of the team.

    Pretty soon, you'll have players you want to keep selling their couches. On top of that, recruiting is going to take a hit sooner rather than later.

    Petersen knows this program has been in the shitter well over a decade now and continuing to lose is going to further damage any effort to rebuild. Continuing to have losing streaks against conference rivals really takes its toll.
    How is he throwing away games and seasons? Is he deliberately not running something that would be a better offense this year, in favor of something the next few years? I don't think any of us have any fucking clue but I'd love to get an answer. Do you think he's not playing the best guys in favor of future seasons? Doesn't seem to be the case with all the freshman starters on offense.

    The morale of the team is fine. They've come back from three 16-17 point deficits with the ball and a chance to win each one. They could have quit yesterday knowing they had no chance to win.

    Recruiting is going fine. Better play on the field is needed to enhance it though. Pete's recruits aren't selling their couches and never will.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,584 Founders Club

    wobidbus said:

    The announcers last night kept mentioning how Hogan is successful in Stanford's "complicated offense relative to the rest of CFB", which made me think about two things:

    1) Is the Smuth/Petermun offense similar in that more experienced players would be able to execute properly?
    2) Does the route to success really require lighting two seasons on fire in order to reap rewards down the line?

    Petersen is playing a high stakes game by basically throwing these first two seasons out the window in hopes of getting the offense kicked into high gear in year fucking three or four. I survived the last 15 years of bullshit, but another two seems like an eternity. Fuck me.

    If he's throwing away games and seasons, then he should be fired. These players are here for 3-5 years. Ruining at least 2 of those seasons for them is criminal. Fuck his system and process. Do whatever it takes to win NOW. By constantly laying giant turds on the field, you are breaking down the morale of the team.

    Pretty soon, you'll have players you want to keep selling their couches. On top of that, recruiting is going to take a hit sooner rather than later.

    Petersen knows this program has been in the shitter well over a decade now and continuing to lose is going to further damage any effort to rebuild. Continuing to have losing streaks against conference rivals really takes its toll.
    How is he throwing away games and seasons? Is he deliberately not running something that would be a better offense this year, in favor of something the next few years? I don't think any of us have any fucking clue but I'd love to get an answer. Do you think he's not playing the best guys in favor of future seasons? Doesn't seem to be the case with all the freshman starters on offense.

    The morale of the team is fine. They've come back from three 16-17 point deficits with the ball and a chance to win each one. They could have quit yesterday knowing they had no chance to win.

    Recruiting is going fine. Better play on the field is needed to enhance it though. Pete's recruits aren't selling their couches and never will.
    I said "if he is throwing away games and seasons". CP is a competitor and I'm sure he wants to win. But, I just don't understand the inconsistency in the offensive play-calling. He and Smith seem to shy away from handing the ball off to Gaskin more than 18 times. It's not like Gaskin is taking a lot of big hits. He's a slippery runner and mostly avoid contact at the line. It's not like he's a Marshawn Lynch type who seeks contact and exposes himself to big hits and risks injury.

    It's not lost on me that the QB situation is shit. So, I don't understand why they don't commit to run the ball more? Is Petersen going to just bang away at running his system until he has the perfect players to make it work?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,811 Founders Club
    MisterEm said:

    Two questions.

    1. What is the Washington advantage in 2015 after 20ish years of being a fucking loser? The UW BOR could give a fuck about the failing football program

    2. Concerning the perpetual youth excuse. How did OSU (13) and the Tide (16) compete, and win the natty, with so many freshmen diaper-dandies in the two deeps?

    TIA

    This is what I hate. Telling everyone that the team is young sets too low of a bar on these *young* players. Youth/Process/Built for Life should not be the message to this team. The message should be that the conference is, and almost always is, there for the taking no matter what, and that WINNING builds you for life.

    My biggest problem with this staff.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537

    wobidbus said:

    The announcers last night kept mentioning how Hogan is successful in Stanford's "complicated offense relative to the rest of CFB", which made me think about two things:

    1) Is the Smuth/Petermun offense similar in that more experienced players would be able to execute properly?
    2) Does the route to success really require lighting two seasons on fire in order to reap rewards down the line?

    Petersen is playing a high stakes game by basically throwing these first two seasons out the window in hopes of getting the offense kicked into high gear in year fucking three or four. I survived the last 15 years of bullshit, but another two seems like an eternity. Fuck me.

    If he's throwing away games and seasons, then he should be fired. These players are here for 3-5 years. Ruining at least 2 of those seasons for them is criminal. Fuck his system and process. Do whatever it takes to win NOW. By constantly laying giant turds on the field, you are breaking down the morale of the team.

    Pretty soon, you'll have players you want to keep selling their couches. On top of that, recruiting is going to take a hit sooner rather than later.

    Petersen knows this program has been in the shitter well over a decade now and continuing to lose is going to further damage any effort to rebuild. Continuing to have losing streaks against conference rivals really takes its toll.
    How is he throwing away games and seasons? Is he deliberately not running something that would be a better offense this year, in favor of something the next few years? I don't think any of us have any fucking clue but I'd love to get an answer. Do you think he's not playing the best guys in favor of future seasons? Doesn't seem to be the case with all the freshman starters on offense.

    The morale of the team is fine. They've come back from three 16-17 point deficits with the ball and a chance to win each one. They could have quit yesterday knowing they had no chance to win.

    Recruiting is going fine. Better play on the field is needed to enhance it though. Pete's recruits aren't selling their couches and never will.
    I said "if he is throwing away games and seasons". CP is a competitor and I'm sure he wants to win. But, I just don't understand the inconsistency in the offensive play-calling. He and Smith seem to shy away from handing the ball off to Gaskin more than 18 times. It's not like Gaskin is taking a lot of big hits. He's a slippery runner and mostly avoid contact at the line. It's not like he's a Marshawn Lynch type who seeks contact and exposes himself to big hits and risks injury.

    It's not lost on me that the QB situation is shit. So, I don't understand why they don't commit to run the ball more? Is Petersen going to just bang away at running his system until he has the perfect players to make it work?
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