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A thought re: the Seahawks

PurpleJ
PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
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As someone who is known for mercilessly trolling Seahawks fans, I have to admit that this franchise isn't going anywhere. You've built a winner based on a tuff defense and running game, and you have the loudest fans in the nation. There is a waiting list for season tickets and everyone expects a winner. That combination of fan support and pressure on the front office to produce means that the Seahawks may have a down year or two, but will ultimately be in the title race for years to come. That type of thing doesn't just disappear overnight.


Sincerely,

The Washington Huskies


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  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,167
    Such fag, J. That said, this run is over, and possibly the franchise as a whole.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,466 Founders Club
    I still like their odds of reaching the playoffs this year, believe it or not.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    DerekJohnson said:

    I still like their odds of reaching the playoffs this year, believe it or not.

    Me too. The timeline sets up perfectly for 0-16 in, say, 2030.
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  • owen16
    owen16 Member Posts: 56
    PurpleJ said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    I still like their odds of reaching the playoffs this year, believe it or not.

    Me too. The timeline sets up perfectly for 0-16 in, say, 2030.
    I just need more time!
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,142
    DerekJohnson said:

    I still like their odds of reaching the playoffs this year, believe it or not.

    I want to believe. And I do think it's a huge overreaction to say it's all over. This season might be a lost one though. What pisses me off is that the Seahawks really aren't that bad. They were up two scores against two undefeated teams the past two weeks.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,470 Founders Club
    DerekJohnson said:

    I still like their odds of reaching the playoffs this year, believe it or not quite honestly.

    You can't flag a moderator's post for the inappropriate use of quite honestly.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    This season is leaning towards a lost season ...

    Egos have gotten involved in my mind and some of the players have lost a bit of the chips on their shoulder that got them to where they were.

    I expect some sizable changes in the offseason but the core will ultimately be the ones that drive next year. There will be some new and fresh infusion of players in that will be hungry to be winners.

    My gut tells me that this is Petey's last year.
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  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    Tequilla said:

    This season is leaning towards a lost season ...

    Egos have gotten involved in my mind and some of the players have lost a bit of the chips on their shoulder that got them to where they were.

    I expect some sizable changes in the offseason but the core will ultimately be the ones that drive next year. There will be some new and fresh infusion of players in that will be hungry to be winners.

    My gut tells me that this is Petey's last year.

    I don't think Pete wants to go out known as the guy who made the worst play call in sports history. He wants one more Superbowl with the team he built from the ground up. This season might be lost but the team is still relatively young. The biggest issue going forward IMO is that Russell Wilson hasn't progressed enough to be worth that $21 million a year cap hit. He needs to get it going fast.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    I'll be there tonight #hook4life
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  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    Pete will be coaching a NFL team in LA next year. Cook it!
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  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,323 Founders Club
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Pete will be coaching a NFL team in LA next year. Cook it!

    Hopefully he takes BevellFS with him.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Pete will be coaching a NFL team in LA next year. Cook it!

    I know you're being sarcasmic, but no fucking chance he's leaving Paul Allen's checkbook and the system he's established in Seattle to go rebuild somebody. Pete does things too differently from the rest of the league, even if a good team moves to LA it's not going to be the team Pete wants.

    Coach stays until he retires.
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  • mobey
    mobey Member Posts: 3,254
    PurpleJ said:

    As someone who is known for mercilessly trolling Seahawks fans, I have to admit that this franchise isn't going anywhere. You've built a winner based on a tuff defense and running game, and you have the loudest fans in the nation. There is a waiting list for season tickets and everyone expects a winner. That combination of fan support and pressure on the front office to produce means that the Seahawks may have a down year or two, but will ultimately be in the title race for years to come. That type of thing doesn't just disappear overnight.


    Sincerely,

    The Washington Huskies


    :)

    Unlike the Dawgs, I don't think the Hawks' management will purposely try to destroy them.

    I hate being a Hawk Doog but the combined record of their losses is 19-3 with two losses in OT and two others in the fourth quarter.

    IF their OLine improves at all and Bevelle doesn't remain a moron - big ifs - they'll make the playoffs.
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  • mobey
    mobey Member Posts: 3,254
    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Pete will be coaching a NFL team in LA next year. Cook it!

    I know you're being sarcasmic, but no fucking chance he's leaving Paul Allen's checkbook and the system he's established in Seattle to go rebuild somebody. Pete does things too differently from the rest of the league, even if a good team moves to LA it's not going to be the team Pete wants.

    Coach stays until he retires.
    In fact the more likely scenario would be Schneider going to the Pack.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    mobey said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Pete will be coaching a NFL team in LA next year. Cook it!

    I know you're being sarcasmic, but no fucking chance he's leaving Paul Allen's checkbook and the system he's established in Seattle to go rebuild somebody. Pete does things too differently from the rest of the league, even if a good team moves to LA it's not going to be the team Pete wants.

    Coach stays until he retires.
    In fact the more likely scenario would be Schneider going to the Pack.
    Far far more likely
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,647 Standard Supporter
    This team reminds me a little of the '04 team. Expectations were really high and they barely got to 9-7. There were some whiners on that team.
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    dnc said:

    mobey said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Pete will be coaching a NFL team in LA next year. Cook it!

    I know you're being sarcasmic, but no fucking chance he's leaving Paul Allen's checkbook and the system he's established in Seattle to go rebuild somebody. Pete does things too differently from the rest of the league, even if a good team moves to LA it's not going to be the team Pete wants.

    Coach stays until he retires.
    In fact the more likely scenario would be Schneider going to the Pack.
    Far far more likely
    But, then he'd have to live in Green bay... In a dying market... without the richest owner in sports... and the freedom to do WETFHW
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    Talk if executives leaving ...

    Kinda odd.

    Paul Allen is one of the best owners in the NFL

    Why would someone leave?
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    sarktastic said:

    dnc said:

    mobey said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Pete will be coaching a NFL team in LA next year. Cook it!

    I know you're being sarcasmic, but no fucking chance he's leaving Paul Allen's checkbook and the system he's established in Seattle to go rebuild somebody. Pete does things too differently from the rest of the league, even if a good team moves to LA it's not going to be the team Pete wants.

    Coach stays until he retires.
    In fact the more likely scenario would be Schneider going to the Pack.
    Far far more likely
    But, then he'd have to live in Green bay... In a dying market... without the richest owner in sports... and the freedom to do WETFHW
    I didn't say it would happen, I just said it's far more likely than Carroll leaving the Seahawks. Schneider *might* go the Pack in the same way that we thought Mora *might* come to UW. Leaving a better job for a worse one just because you love the worst one. It's not likely, but it could happen. There's no chance Carroll leaves for anything but retirement.
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  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    dnc said:

    sarktastic said:

    dnc said:

    mobey said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Pete will be coaching a NFL team in LA next year. Cook it!

    I know you're being sarcasmic, but no fucking chance he's leaving Paul Allen's checkbook and the system he's established in Seattle to go rebuild somebody. Pete does things too differently from the rest of the league, even if a good team moves to LA it's not going to be the team Pete wants.

    Coach stays until he retires.
    In fact the more likely scenario would be Schneider going to the Pack.
    Far far more likely
    But, then he'd have to live in Green bay... In a dying market... without the richest owner in sports... and the freedom to do WETFHW
    I didn't say it would happen, I just said it's far more likely than Carroll leaving the Seahawks. Schneider *might* go the Pack in the same way that we thought Mora *might* come to UW. Leaving a better job for a worse one just because you love the worst one. It's not likely, but it could happen. There's no chance Carroll leaves for anything but retirement.
    Is Schneider really that good? When Carroll came out of college he had a ton of scouting reports on all the draftees when he was trying to recruit them to USC. Since then, the Hawks drafts have been pretty meh. Also, he generally tends to spend way too much on trades.

    I think his best attribute is signing undervalued guys to below market contracts, but even those are backfiring now because of holdout demands (Chancellor, Bennett).

    As long as Paul Allen stays owner and if they can keep Petey on board as some kind of executive after he retires I think those two things would be more important than keeping Schneider as GM.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,142
    SteveInShelton said:

    dnc said:

    sarktastic said:

    dnc said:

    mobey said:

    dnc said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Pete will be coaching a NFL team in LA next year. Cook it!

    I know you're being sarcasmic, but no fucking chance he's leaving Paul Allen's checkbook and the system he's established in Seattle to go rebuild somebody. Pete does things too differently from the rest of the league, even if a good team moves to LA it's not going to be the team Pete wants.

    Coach stays until he retires.
    In fact the more likely scenario would be Schneider going to the Pack.
    Far far more likely
    But, then he'd have to live in Green bay... In a dying market... without the richest owner in sports... and the freedom to do WETFHW
    I didn't say it would happen, I just said it's far more likely than Carroll leaving the Seahawks. Schneider *might* go the Pack in the same way that we thought Mora *might* come to UW. Leaving a better job for a worse one just because you love the worst one. It's not likely, but it could happen. There's no chance Carroll leaves for anything but retirement.
    Is Schneider really that good? When Carroll came out of college he had a ton of scouting reports on all the draftees when he was trying to recruit them to USC. Since then, the Hawks drafts have been pretty meh. Also, he generally tends to spend way too much on trades.

    I think his best attribute is signing undervalued guys to below market contracts, but even those are backfiring now because of holdout demands (Chancellor, Bennett).

    As long as Paul Allen stays owner and if they can keep Petey on board as some kind of executive after he retires I think those two things would be more important than keeping Schneider as GM.
    I completely agree about Petey, but evidence points to Schneider being really good.
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