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Absolutely. It was a messy transition but he still underachieved.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
So you're telling us that Peterman underachieved last year then?HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Michigan was barely worse than UW last year. They returned 17 starters. Most of their team is seniors. Throw in the new coach bounce and they'd win 7/8 games anyway. They probably finish 9-3.doogsinparadise said:Michigan was worse than Washington last year, so of course they should be better than Washington this year with a terrible transfer qb from Iowa? Huh?
UW is one of the least experienced, youngest teams in the country. 7/11 starters on offense are freshman or sophomores. The QB and 3/5 of the OL are freshman. Its a rebuilding year and if you can't admit that you should never post again. However, the offense which has been the worst in the league since Pete started should be criticized. With a half decent offense UW wins the north the next two years.
And Michigan will be worse next year. 18 of their 24 starters are seniors. Year 2 and 3 will be rebuilding time for Harbaugh.
He's done a lot of good but his offense is holding the program back. If he can't improve that heading into next season then he will have failed overall. -
Waay past time to do that. Been a BoorHalfBrain in spirit since the 2009 game at Autzen.pawz said:
Time to register BoorHalfBrains.com. Ground floor opportunity!BearsWiin said:
I'm just the massinger. Still expecting 7-5, maybe 8-4, in what is supposed to be Our Year of Opportunity. Flabbergasted! that anybody who is even remotely fuckingly paying attention would poont to Cal as seeing progress from its coaching changes.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Awfully warm out for December.BearsWiin said:
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/92479/pac-12-bowl-projections-utah-to-the-college-football-playoff2001400ex said:
Like Tedford?topdawgnc said:I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.
Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.
Cal to the Rose Bowl
Our Boors haven't beaten anyone yet. -
Why does Michigan automatically have a new coach bounce worth 2-3 wins, yet Petersen took UW backwards after taking over for a very mediocre coach? Petersen wouldn't lead this year's Michigan team to 9 wins. Rudock, Petersen, and Smith is a recipe for a dreckfest offense.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Michigan was barely worse than UW last year. They returned 17 starters. Most of their team is seniors. Throw in the new coach bounce and they'd win 7/8 games anyway. They probably finish 9-3.doogsinparadise said:Michigan was worse than Washington last year, so of course they should be better than Washington this year with a terrible transfer qb from Iowa? Huh?
UW is one of the least experienced, youngest teams in the country. 7/11 starters on offense are freshman or sophomores. The QB and 3/5 of the OL are freshman. Its a rebuilding year and if you can't admit that you should never post again. However, the offense which has been the worst in the league since Pete started should be criticized. With a half decent offense UW wins the north the next two years.
And Michigan will be worse next year. 18 of their 24 starters are seniors. Year 2 and 3 will be rebuilding time for Harbaugh. -
Year 3CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykestopdawgnc said:I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.
Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.
1-11
5-7
Staring off 5-0 and ranked.
We're (?) fucked -
We're so fucking young! I've got all the screenshots I need from you on Harbaugh, I'll take the over next year.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Michigan was barely worse than UW last year. They returned 17 starters. Most of their team is seniors. Throw in the new coach bounce and they'd win 7/8 games anyway. They probably finish 9-3.doogsinparadise said:Michigan was worse than Washington last year, so of course they should be better than Washington this year with a terrible transfer qb from Iowa? Huh?
UW is one of the least experienced, youngest teams in the country. 7/11 starters on offense are freshman or sophomores. The QB and 3/5 of the OL are freshman. Its a rebuilding year and if you can't admit that you should never post again. However, the offense which has been the worst in the league since Pete started should be criticized. With a half decent offense UW wins the north the next two years.
And Michigan will be worse next year. 18 of their 24 starters are seniors. Year 2 and 3 will be rebuilding time for Harbaugh. -
CuntWaffle said:
Jesus fucking Christ. How many more of these long winded TSIO posts are going to happen by the end of the year?
"We" like the number seven -
Is 6-7 wins too much to ask in the shit PAC-9?
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This year yes. But every other year no. 4 or 5 was my hope for this year.jecornel said:Is 6-7 wins too much to ask in the shit PAC-9?
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Our?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Awfully warm out for December.BearsWiin said:
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/92479/pac-12-bowl-projections-utah-to-the-college-football-playoff2001400ex said:
Like Tedford?topdawgnc said:I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.
Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.
Cal to the Rose Bowl
Our Boors haven't beaten anyone yet. -
Agree up to Michigan being worse next year. I get what you're saying regarding experience, but not really buying an automatic drop off because of it. Harbaugh has already changed the culture there, the younger players will develop very fast under him, that's been his MO. LIPO.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Michigan was barely worse than UW last year. They returned 17 starters. Most of their team is seniors. Throw in the new coach bounce and they'd win 7/8 games anyway. They probably finish 9-3.doogsinparadise said:Michigan was worse than Washington last year, so of course they should be better than Washington this year with a terrible transfer qb from Iowa? Huh?
UW is one of the least experienced, youngest teams in the country. 7/11 starters on offense are freshman or sophomores. The QB and 3/5 of the OL are freshman. Its a rebuilding year and if you can't admit that you should never post again. However, the offense which has been the worst in the league since Pete started should be criticized. With a half decent offense UW wins the north the next two years.
And Michigan will be worse next year. 18 of their 24 starters are seniors. Year 2 and 3 will be rebuilding time for Harbaugh.
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Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.topdawgnc said:
Year 3CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykestopdawgnc said:I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.
Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.
1-11
5-7
Staring off 5-0 and ranked.
We're (?) fucked
The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.
That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
LIPO. The mighty Harbaugh increased his win total by 1 his second year at stanford (a second consecutive losing season) and then finished his 3rd year with a loss in the much made fun of Sun Bowl.
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Doog postDoogles said:
Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.topdawgnc said:
Year 3CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykestopdawgnc said:I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.
Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.
1-11
5-7
Staring off 5-0 and ranked.
We're (?) fucked
The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.
That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
Doog poster
Look at those conference records:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football) -
.261 lifetime is nothing speshul
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The conference was worse shit then than it is now.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Doog postDoogles said:
Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.topdawgnc said:
Year 3CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykestopdawgnc said:I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.
Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.
1-11
5-7
Staring off 5-0 and ranked.
We're (?) fucked
The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.
That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
Doog poster
Look at those conference records:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football) -
Fuck outta here with that Doog shit.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
The conference was worse shit then than it is now.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Doog postDoogles said:
Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.topdawgnc said:
Year 3CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykestopdawgnc said:I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.
Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.
1-11
5-7
Staring off 5-0 and ranked.
We're (?) fucked
The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.
That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
Doog poster
Look at those conference records:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
Fuck. Outta. Here. -
Looks like a guy who couldn't beat LA or win OOC early in the season to give his team a chance at the natty. Thank god he didn't have to play a ranked Oregon.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Doog postDoogles said:
Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.topdawgnc said:
Year 3CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykestopdawgnc said:I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.
Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.
1-11
5-7
Staring off 5-0 and ranked.
We're (?) fucked
The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.
That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
Doog poster
Look at those conference records:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
That second year decline is proof James wasn't the guy to lead Washington. -
Win four Rose Bowls and half a natty then pop off.Doogles said:
Looks like a guy who couldn't beat LA or win OOC early in the season to give his team a chance at the natty. Thank god he didn't have to play a ranked Oregon.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Doog postDoogles said:
Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.topdawgnc said:
Year 3CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykestopdawgnc said:I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.
Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.
1-11
5-7
Staring off 5-0 and ranked.
We're (?) fucked
The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.
That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
Doog poster
Look at those conference records:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
Or in Peterman's case, get above .500 in Pac-12 conference play then pop off. -
It's true, and it's fine. James was a fantastic coach. Just pointing it out.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Fuck outta here with that Doog shit.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
The conference was worse shit then than it is now.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Doog postDoogles said:
Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.topdawgnc said:
Year 3CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykestopdawgnc said:I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.
Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.
1-11
5-7
Staring off 5-0 and ranked.
We're (?) fucked
The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.
That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
Doog poster
Look at those conference records:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
Fuck. Outta. Here. -
He won only 2 rose bowls in his first 15 years. I like Pete's chances if given the same leash.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Win four Rose Bowls and half a natty then pop off.Doogles said:
Looks like a guy who couldn't beat LA or win OOC early in the season to give his team a chance at the natty. Thank god he didn't have to play a ranked Oregon.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Doog postDoogles said:
Dykes was getting ran by this bored until last week. The knee jerk reaction of this site is at an all-time high. Don James only produced 3-4 seasons that would be deemed acceptable in his entire tenure according to this bored.topdawgnc said:
Year 3CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It's taken Kal 4 (I think) years of Dykestopdawgnc said:I want to know why schools like Stanford and Kal can make coaching changes and actually start to see progress.
Every fucking year it is the same shit with UW.
1-11
5-7
Staring off 5-0 and ranked.
We're (?) fucked
The O has to change, something is seriously wrong there and agree it is halting the development of the program. Also, some dicey in game decisions have cost the Dawgs as well. Pete has fallen short of my initial expectations of what the 2 time COY 92-12 would bring.
That being said the core of this program is strengthening significantly. It's showing up in the youth that is surpassing the upperclass guys, the numbers increasing, the eye test passing more and more, the recruiting jumping, etc.
Doog poster
Look at those conference records:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James_(American_football)
Or in Peterman's case, get above .500 in Pac-12 conference play then pop off. -
Same reason Sark's new coach bounce was worth 5 wins: Players quit on the predecessor. Dead coach walking.RoadDawg55 said:Why does Michigan automatically have a new coach bounce worth 2-3 wins, yet Petersen took UW backwards after taking over for a very mediocre coach? Petersen wouldn't lead this year's Michigan team to 9 wins. Rudock, Petersen, and Smith is a recipe for a dreckfest offense.
Much as we wanted him to be, Sark wasn't dead coach walking in '13. There wasn't a huge mutiny. -
Of course this board has knee jerk reactions and is sometimes irrational. That said, Pete has been really, really fucking bad so far. Really fucking bad. Like worse than Sark bad. And we all hated Sark. There is no way around it. 8-6 last year with an easy 4 wins in non conference and every single tough game other than Oregon at home.
Peterman didn't beat a single team with a winning record. A one point win over Hawaii. A close game against Eastern in which they scored 52 points. Losing at halftime to a Georgia State team that went 0-8 in the Sun Belt Conference. Last season was a fucking disaster. I know a lot of good coaches have struggled in their first year, but in retrospect, it looks like one big fucking warning sign to me.
A lot of it was blamed on Sark, some of it probably justifiably so. Sark is/was an average coach at best. Sark never had a season in which he didn't beat a team with a winning record. Petersen was hired to be better than Sark, and so far, he's actually been worse. It's fucking sobering. I have seen nothing from Petersen at UW to suggest he could win a conference title, and that's even with a golden opportunity with Oregon slipping. -
Might as well not even play football anymore then.RoadDawg55 said:Of course this board has knee jerk reactions and is sometimes irrational. That said, Pete has been really, really fucking bad so far. Really fucking bad. Like worse than Sark bad. And we all hated Sark. There is no way around it. 8-6 last year with an easy 4 wins in non conference and every single tough game other than Oregon at home.
Peterman didn't beat a single team with a winning record. A one point win over Hawaii. A close game against Eastern in which they scored 52 points. Losing at halftime to a Georgia State team that went 0-8 in the Sun Belt Conference. Last season was a fucking disaster. I know a lot of good coaches have struggled in their first year, but in retrospect, it looks like one big fucking warning sign to me.
A lot of it was blamed on Sark, some of it probably justifiably so. Sark is/was an average coach at best. Sark never had a season in which he didn't beat a team with a winning record. Petersen was hired to be better than Sark, and so far, he's actually been worse. It's fucking sobering. I have seen nothing from Petersen at UW to suggest he could win a conference title, and that's even with a golden opportunity with Oregon slipping. -
I know you are being sarcastic, but I don't play football.CuntWaffle said:
Might as well not even play football anymore then.RoadDawg55 said:Of course this board has knee jerk reactions and is sometimes irrational. That said, Pete has been really, really fucking bad so far. Really fucking bad. Like worse than Sark bad. And we all hated Sark. There is no way around it. 8-6 last year with an easy 4 wins in non conference and every single tough game other than Oregon at home.
Peterman didn't beat a single team with a winning record. A one point win over Hawaii. A close game against Eastern in which they scored 52 points. Losing at halftime to a Georgia State team that went 0-8 in the Sun Belt Conference. Last season was a fucking disaster. I know a lot of good coaches have struggled in their first year, but in retrospect, it looks like one big fucking warning sign to me.
A lot of it was blamed on Sark, some of it probably justifiably so. Sark is/was an average coach at best. Sark never had a season in which he didn't beat a team with a winning record. Petersen was hired to be better than Sark, and so far, he's actually been worse. It's fucking sobering. I have seen nothing from Petersen at UW to suggest he could win a conference title, and that's even with a golden opportunity with Oregon slipping. -
Ignoring the youth on offense, particularly on the OL and QB is what I like to do.
Last game, we started 3 FR OL. Of the other 11 P12 teams, with 55 starting OL, exactly 1 FR OL started. -
Let it play out
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Nice down vote, fucktard. Do you want to dispute the facts? Or would you rather bitch, whine and moan? Pretty sure I know the answer.HuskyInAZ said:Ignoring the youth on offense, particularly on the OL and QB is what I like to do.
Last game, we started 3 FR OL. Of the other 11 P12 teams, with 55 starting OL, exactly 1 FR OL started. -
It's a shame that Washington is too fucking young for the 14th year in a row.HuskyInAZ said:Ignoring the youth on offense, particularly on the OL and QB is what I like to do.
Last game, we started 3 FR OL. Of the other 11 P12 teams, with 55 starting OL, exactly 1 FR OL started. -
The PAC 10 in the 80s was the SEC of its time. Far and away the best conference