Facts only: The Pac-12 after week one
versus the SWAC: +59.0 points per game
versus the Sun Belt: +49.0 points per game
versus the ACC: + 18.0 points per game
versus the Big Sky: +10.3 points per game
versus C-USA: +10.0 points per game
versus the Big Ten: -1.5 points per game
versus the Mountain West: -5.5 points per game
and last but certainly not least:
versus the SEC: -21.0 points per game
Comments
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Great sample size as always.
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That's a valid counterargument. Sample size is always an issue when it comes to conference comparisons.doogsinparadise said:Great sample size as always.
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Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either. -
7-5 against that shit schedule is a disaster.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
Hope this helps. -
Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs
All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.
The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.
FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.
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The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.BallSacked said:
Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs
All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.
The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.
FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it. -
Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.BallSacked said:
Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs
All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.
The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.
FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.
And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.
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That being said, it's easy to know shitty football when you see it.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
That's a valid counterargument. Sample size is always an issue when it comes to conference comparisons.doogsinparadise said:Great sample size as always.
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You're forgetting about 13-0 Boise State and 11-1 Michigan State though.BallSacked said:
Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.BallSacked said:
Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs
All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.
The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.
FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.
And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.
It's going to be very difficult for a two loss team from this dreckfest to get in. -
1 loss or we'll gtfo of the playoff.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You're forgetting about 13-0 Boise State and 11-1 Michigan State though.BallSacked said:
Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.BallSacked said:
Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs
All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.
The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.
FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.
And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.
It's going to be impossible for a two loss team from this dreckfest to get in. -
aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even closeFire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either. -
I think Aggie just sacked Bercovici again.dhdawg said:
aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even closeFire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either. -
ATMs defense looked very good, but their offense has some issues. QB play was spotty and they actually had some difficulty with pass protection, imo. That said if Murray or Allen can put it together at some point in the next few weeks they should be a pretty good squad. Great talent.dhdawg said:
aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even closeFire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
Chavis looks like he was a great hire by #BlackSarkLivesMatter.
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Boise? lulz. good one.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You're forgetting about 13-0 Boise State and 11-1 Michigan State though.BallSacked said:
Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.BallSacked said:
Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs
All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.
The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.
FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.
And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.
It's going to be very difficult for a two loss team from this dreckfest to get in.
Don't think a conference would get a second team in over a 11-2 champ from the Pac12 (or ACC or ND). The committee clearly put a premium on conference champs last year. A 10-3 champ is maybe a different story, however. -
We don't know how good their defense really is though. Could have just been bad blocking. Yes there is talent but I can't see them finishing better than 4th in the sec westBallSacked said:
ATMs defense looked very good, but their offense has some issues. QB play was spotty and they actually had some difficulty with pass protection, imo. That said if Murray or Allen can put it together at some point in the next few weeks they should be a pretty good squad. Great talent.dhdawg said:
aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even closeFire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
Chavis looks like he was a great hire by #BlackSarkLivesMatter. -
If UW can find a running game, it should easily finish in the top half of El Norte.
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It's going to be a one loss UCLA or a one loss Oregon or nobody from the Pac. Same as it was before the season started.
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Because they had six one loss teams to choose from the conference title was the tiebreaker. We haven't seen them take a two loss conference champ over a one loss team that lost the conference. I would be very surprised if they do that, especially from a conference that has underperformed OOC like the Pac.BallSacked said:
Boise? lulz. good one.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You're forgetting about 13-0 Boise State and 11-1 Michigan State though.BallSacked said:
Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.BallSacked said:
Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs
All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.
The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.
FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.
And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.
It's going to be very difficult for a two loss team from this dreckfest to get in.
Don't think a conference would get a second team in over a 11-2 champ from the Pac12 (or ACC or ND). The committee clearly put a premium on conference champs last year. A 10-3 champ is maybe a different story, however. -
The evidence seems to show that at the top tier of assistants you can change a unit for the better with a good hire. The line here has always been that it's the head coach--which is mostly the case--but looking at Auburn and aTm this year it would appear that a good coordinator is worth the money.BallSacked said:
ATMs defense looked very good, but their offense has some issues. QB play was spotty and they actually had some difficulty with pass protection, imo. That said if Murray or Allen can put it together at some point in the next few weeks they should be a pretty good squad. Great talent.dhdawg said:
aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even closeFire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
Chavis looks like he was a great hire by #BlackSarkLivesMatter. -
And it's up to the HC to hire that coordinatordoogsinparadise said:
The evidence seems to show that at the top tier of assistants you can change a unit for the better with a good hire. The line here has always been that it's the head coach--which is mostly the case--but looking at Auburn and aTm this year it would appear that a good coordinator is worth the money.BallSacked said:
ATMs defense looked very good, but their offense has some issues. QB play was spotty and they actually had some difficulty with pass protection, imo. That said if Murray or Allen can put it together at some point in the next few weeks they should be a pretty good squad. Great talent.dhdawg said:
aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even closeFire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
Chavis looks like he was a great hire by #BlackSarkLivesMatter. -
While true, everything they've put out so far has indicated they would.dnc said:
Because they had six one loss teams to choose from the conference title was the tiebreaker. We haven't seen them take a two loss conference champ over a one loss team that lost the conference. I would be very surprised if they do that, especially from a conference that has underperformed OOC like the Pac.BallSacked said:
Boise? lulz. good one.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You're forgetting about 13-0 Boise State and 11-1 Michigan State though.BallSacked said:
Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.BallSacked said:
Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs
All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.
The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.
FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.
And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.
It's going to be very difficult for a two loss team from this dreckfest to get in.
Don't think a conference would get a second team in over a 11-2 champ from the Pac12 (or ACC or ND). The committee clearly put a premium on conference champs last year. A 10-3 champ is maybe a different story, however.
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11-1 MSU would have a head to head win over 11-2 Oregon though.BallSacked said:
Boise? lulz. good one.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You're forgetting about 13-0 Boise State and 11-1 Michigan State though.BallSacked said:
Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.BallSacked said:
Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs
All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.
The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.
FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.
And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.
It's going to be very difficult for a two loss team from this dreckfest to get in.
Don't think a conference would get a second team in over a 11-2 champ from the Pac12 (or ACC or ND). The committee clearly put a premium on conference champs last year. A 10-3 champ is maybe a different story, however.
Also worth nothing: There were no non-champions worth considering last year.
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Worst. Accomplishment. Ever.TTJ said:If UW can find a running game, it should easily finish in the top half of El Norte.
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ATM took the top player out of Arizona the last two years and kicked ASU's ass with them.
That speaks volumes about Pac 12 recruiting -
ASU is a sleeping giant. Everyone says so.RaceBannon said:ATM took the top player out of Arizona the last two years and kicked ASU's ass with them.
That speaks volumes about Pac 12 recruiting -
Arizona and ASU never keep their top players in-state. Probably never will.RaceBannon said:ATM took the top player out of Arizona the last two years and kicked ASU's ass with them.
That speaks volumes about Pac 12 recruiting -
10 other pac 12 teams didn't get them eitherBallSacked said:
Arizona and ASU never keep their top players in-state. Probably never will.RaceBannon said:ATM took the top player out of Arizona the last two years and kicked ASU's ass with them.
That speaks volumes about Pac 12 recruiting -
I guess the conference shouldn't even bother recruiting the state of Arizona.RaceBannon said:
10 other pac 12 teams didn't get them eitherBallSacked said:
Arizona and ASU never keep their top players in-state. Probably never will.RaceBannon said:ATM took the top player out of Arizona the last two years and kicked ASU's ass with them.
That speaks volumes about Pac 12 recruiting
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How about a vertical passing game?TTJ said:If UW can find a running game, it should easily finish in the top half of El Norte.
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Ask Gary Patterson.doogsinparadise said:
The evidence seems to show that at the top tier of assistants you can change a unit for the better with a good hire. The line here has always been that it's the head coach--which is mostly the case--but looking at Auburn and aTm this year it would appear that a good coordinator is worth the money.BallSacked said:
ATMs defense looked very good, but their offense has some issues. QB play was spotty and they actually had some difficulty with pass protection, imo. That said if Murray or Allen can put it together at some point in the next few weeks they should be a pretty good squad. Great talent.dhdawg said:
aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even closeFire_Marshall_Bill said:Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but
Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.
Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.
Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.
Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.
Chavis looks like he was a great hire by #BlackSarkLivesMatter.
