Facts only: The Pac-12 after week one

TierbsHsotBoobs

Average scoring margin versus other conferences:

versus the SWAC: +59.0 points per game
versus the Sun Belt: +49.0 points per game
versus the ACC: + 18.0 points per game
versus the Big Sky: +10.3 points per game
versus C-USA: +10.0 points per game

versus the Big Ten: -1.5 points per game
versus the Mountain West: -5.5 points per game

and last but certainly not least:
versus the SEC: -21.0 points per game

doogsinparadise

Great sample size as always.

TierbsHsotBoobs

doogsinparadise said:

Great sample size as always.

That's a valid counterargument. Sample size is always an issue when it comes to conference comparisons.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

7-5 against that shit schedule is a disaster.

Hope this helps.

BallSacked

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.

MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs

All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.

The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.

FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.

TierbsHsotBoobs

BallSacked said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.

MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs

All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.

The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.

FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.

The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.

BallSacked

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

BallSacked said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.

MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs

All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.

The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.

FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.

The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.

Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.

And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.

doogsinparadise

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

doogsinparadise said:

Great sample size as always.

That's a valid counterargument. Sample size is always an issue when it comes to conference comparisons.

That being said, it's easy to know shitty football when you see it.

TierbsHsotBoobs

BallSacked said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

BallSacked said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.

MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs

All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.

The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.

FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.

The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.

Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.

And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.

You're forgetting about 13-0 Boise State and 11-1 Michigan State though.

It's going to be very difficult for a two loss team from this dreckfest to get in.

dnc

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

BallSacked said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

BallSacked said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.

MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs

All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.

The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.

FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.

The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.

Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.

And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.

You're forgetting about 13-0 Boise State and 11-1 Michigan State though.

It's going to be impossible for a two loss team from this dreckfest to get in.

1 loss or we'll gtfo of the playoff.

dhdawg

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even close

TierbsHsotBoobs

dhdawg said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even close

I think Aggie just sacked Bercovici again.

BallSacked

dhdawg said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even close

ATMs defense looked very good, but their offense has some issues. QB play was spotty and they actually had some difficulty with pass protection, imo. That said if Murray or Allen can put it together at some point in the next few weeks they should be a pretty good squad. Great talent.

Chavis looks like he was a great hire by #BlackSarkLivesMatter.

BallSacked

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

BallSacked said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

BallSacked said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.

MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs

All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.

The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.

FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.

The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.

Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.

And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.

You're forgetting about 13-0 Boise State and 11-1 Michigan State though.

It's going to be very difficult for a two loss team from this dreckfest to get in.

Boise? lulz. good one.

Don't think a conference would get a second team in over a 11-2 champ from the Pac12 (or ACC or ND). The committee clearly put a premium on conference champs last year. A 10-3 champ is maybe a different story, however.

dhdawg

BallSacked said:

dhdawg said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even close

ATMs defense looked very good, but their offense has some issues. QB play was spotty and they actually had some difficulty with pass protection, imo. That said if Murray or Allen can put it together at some point in the next few weeks they should be a pretty good squad. Great talent.

Chavis looks like he was a great hire by #BlackSarkLivesMatter.

We don't know how good their defense really is though. Could have just been bad blocking. Yes there is talent but I can't see them finishing better than 4th in the sec west

TTJ

If UW can find a running game, it should easily finish in the top half of El Norte.

dnc

It's going to be a one loss UCLA or a one loss Oregon or nobody from the Pac. Same as it was before the season started.

dnc

BallSacked said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

BallSacked said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

BallSacked said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

Pac12s rep will take a major hit next week. And the media will say Big10 took back the mantle for #2. Stanford already lost to NW; and I think next week Big10 goes 3-0 vs the Pac12.

MSU over Ducks
Harbaugh over TheGlovesWhiteAmericaHelmetFuckingLosers
Rutgers over Coogs

All home games for b1g. I also think Nd looks primed to sweep SC/Stanford this year, or at least split.

The one reprieve is Cal looks set-up to blow out Texas, but who gives a fuck really, and they could always Kal it.

FagJ InlandEmpireBannon, and Sven will have a banner year. Cook it.

The Pac-12's only hopes are the LA schools. The conference isn't dead yet, but damn.

Oregon will get it together. But still that's a 10-2 team.

And still with how drecky the ACC looks, I still think an 11-2 Pac12 champ gets in the playoff. ND will fuck up somewhere along the way, and the ACC is worse than the pac12 if FSU isn't winning at a high level.

You're forgetting about 13-0 Boise State and 11-1 Michigan State though.

It's going to be very difficult for a two loss team from this dreckfest to get in.

Boise? lulz. good one.

Don't think a conference would get a second team in over a 11-2 champ from the Pac12 (or ACC or ND). The committee clearly put a premium on conference champs last year. A 10-3 champ is maybe a different story, however.

Because they had six one loss teams to choose from the conference title was the tiebreaker. We haven't seen them take a two loss conference champ over a one loss team that lost the conference. I would be very surprised if they do that, especially from a conference that has underperformed OOC like the Pac.

doogsinparadise

BallSacked said:

dhdawg said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even close

ATMs defense looked very good, but their offense has some issues. QB play was spotty and they actually had some difficulty with pass protection, imo. That said if Murray or Allen can put it together at some point in the next few weeks they should be a pretty good squad. Great talent.

Chavis looks like he was a great hire by #BlackSarkLivesMatter.

The evidence seems to show that at the top tier of assistants you can change a unit for the better with a good hire. The line here has always been that it's the head coach--which is mostly the case--but looking at Auburn and aTm this year it would appear that a good coordinator is worth the money.

dhdawg

doogsinparadise said:

BallSacked said:

dhdawg said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Not a great weekend and conference cheerleading (or the opposite) is pretty gay but

Colorado is still horrible. That loss to HI isn't a shock. WSU's loss, while hilarious, hurts.

Kal, SC, UCLA all took care of business, as did the Utes.

Arizona didn't play great, but like I've said, UTSA isn't a pushover that one can just chalk up an auto 77-0 w.

Stanfraud looked bad on offense from what I saw. ASU kept up with aTm until the last few minutes. Both losses are disappointing , but aren't catastrophic or an indictment of conference strength either.

aTm isn't good..they still have issues at quarterback and sumlin is still their coach. Arizona state should be beating them, not "keeping up with them." And if not for 3 picks, I doubt that game is even close

ATMs defense looked very good, but their offense has some issues. QB play was spotty and they actually had some difficulty with pass protection, imo. That said if Murray or Allen can put it together at some point in the next few weeks they should be a pretty good squad. Great talent.

Chavis looks like he was a great hire by #BlackSarkLivesMatter.

The evidence seems to show that at the top tier of assistants you can change a unit for the better with a good hire. The line here has always been that it's the head coach--which is mostly the case--but looking at Auburn and aTm this year it would appear that a good coordinator is worth the money.

And it's up to the HC to hire that coordinator