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  • CaptainPJ
    CaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986

    Meek said:

    What is it about Seattle that hates itself?

    Seattle is a haven for giners. They don't like winners, because they are a bunch of fucking losers that never got to sit at the "cool table."
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,280
    Home school.

    Jesus Christ....get up...get dressed and go to school you lazy POS
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,444 Founders Club

    section8 said:

    It only took the CEO about .2 seconds to wax poetic about all the more pressing issues in the region and how poor BHS is just subject to a smear campaign by the ST. Apparently the WIAA is really to blame and the haters just don't like a cleanly run successful program.

    It could come out that Butch masterminded the 9/11 terrorist attacks and Kim and F3 would be all over dawgman posting, "SO WHAT? It's only a few thousand people. Do you know how many people live in the U.S. that are still ALIVE???? Not an issue!!"

    Of course, when it became known that an Oregon commit who never played there might have gotten a pair of shoes, those two were crying foul on a daily basis.

    *fowl
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    edited August 2015
    Mad_Son said:

    Doogles said:

    So worst case scenario a kid got a full ride/acceptance into an institution that wouldn't have otherwise given him a sniff.

    Isn't it up to the highly paid educators to inspire these talented young gentleman once they reach the university?

    You may want to change your expectations to have the middling and lowly paid educators inspire them if you want results. Not a lot of folks in the highly paid category.
    Then why do the degrees stemming from these institutions hold so much weight? The kids are talented. They want to go to a place that helps them maximize that talent and get a scholarship that will get them a piece of paper that says "I have my shit together and am hirable".

    Who gives a fuck how they get there? If they worked the system to get there than good for them. If the kids wanted to be doctors they'd do the work, but they want to get a C so they can play football.

    I have no investment in Washington High School sports politics, but the butthurt in the region can be felt all the way from Nor-Cal.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Doogles said:

    Mad_Son said:

    Doogles said:

    So worst case scenario a kid got a full ride/acceptance into an institution that wouldn't have otherwise given him a sniff.

    Isn't it up to the highly paid educators to inspire these talented young gentleman once they reach the university?

    You may want to change your expectations to have the middling and lowly paid educators inspire them if you want results. Not a lot of folks in the highly paid category.
    Then why do the degrees stemming from these institutions hold so much weight? The kids are talented. They want to go to a place that helps them maximize that talent and get a scholarship that will get them a piece of paper that says "I have my shit together and am hirable".

    Who gives a fuck how they get there? If they worked the system to get there than good for them. If the kids wanted to be doctors they'd do the work, but they want to get a C so they can play football.

    I have no investment in Washington High School sports politics, but the butthurt in the region can be felt all the way from Nor-Cal.
    So to be clear - your position is that degrees are valuable because the instructors are highly paid? You seem to have followed up your response to my statement with some unrelated diatribe so I'm not entirely sure what position you are actually trying to take here.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141
    The whole article was ridiculously fucking stupid. Where are the shakedowns of O'Dea, Eastside Catholic, Bellarmine, Rainier Beach, Garfield, etc? The Catholic schools let minorities who are good at sports in for free and do everything necessary to keep them eligible. Recruiting goes on at a ton of high schools. Kids using a relatives address to go to an out of the district school isn't even the slightest bit newsworthy.

    Then they find some disgruntled ex-player who now lives a shitty life. He whines that nobody cared about him except for football. Welcome to real life. Do you think high schools give a shit about the kids in band or the skateboarding stoner?
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    I'm saying a degree is perceived to be a necessity in the modern day. Something that holds such great such importance clearly has competent educators that inspire their students to maximize their potential and achieve their dreams. (SARCASM)

    The "highly paid" line was tongue in cheek. Nobody gives a fuck about these kids unless they produce at what they are good at. Don't stand on the moral high ground and pretend the education system cares about these kids. The ones that want to stand up will, the ones that want to play video games and work the system to a scholarship (that holds perceived value) will.

    Either way the kids gotta play somewhere on friday nights to showcase their abilities.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    Where are the shakedowns of O'Dea, Eastside Catholic, Bellarmine, Rainier Beach, Garfield, etc?

    Don't know if you read the article, but when those schools you listed have teachers quitting and claiming that the school is nothing but a diploma mill... let me know.

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141

    The whole article was ridiculously fucking stupid. Where are the shakedowns of O'Dea, Eastside Catholic, Bellarmine, Rainier Beach, Garfield, etc? The Catholic schools let minorities who are good at sports in for free and do everything necessary to keep them eligible. Recruiting goes on at a ton of high schools. Kids using a relatives address to go to an out of the district school isn't even the slightest bit newsworthy.

    Then they find some disgruntled ex-player who now lives a shitty life. He whines that nobody cared about him except for football. Welcome to real life. Do you think high schools give a shit about the kids in band or the skateboarding stoner?

    When did you attend Bellevue HS?
    I didn't. Bellevue cheats but who gives a shit? The teams that play against Bellevue in the playoffs are doing the same thing. That's what the good programs do. Bellevue does it best.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    rumor on the street is the apartment building by the high school... The one that on occasion has been known to lend a helping hand to a family in need... throws the best high school parties.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,050
    a little birdie told me that if you dig into the on-goings at Bothell and Skyline, you'd find a few questionables.

    hoo cares? a non-story.
  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,942 Swaye's Wigwam

    a little birdie told me that if you dig into the on-goings at Bothell and Skyline, you'd find a few questionables.

    hoo cares? a non-story.

    Bothell, honestly is probably the cleanest of the programs mentioned. They built up the pee wee program there and surprise, they got better (after years of being the Kingco doormat). But to stay better Bothell will likely need to, Northshore is building a new North Creek High School that will alter the enrollment numbers of those schools.

    Bellevue has been dirty for years. No way in hell the limp wristed residents of Clyde Hill and Medina a feeding this football monster. Funny thing is they traditionally had good teams because of their peewee system (Newport is a good example of this), they just went a bit overboard.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    I'm thinking its time Bellevue sits this season out and reflects on its sins. Maybe Butch goes too... and Bellevue becomes a trailblazer with coed football and a female coach.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,952 Founders Club
    Quite honestly I've always been impressed with the integrity of high school sports
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Quite honestly I've always been impressed with the integrity of Olympia high school sports

  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Got through like 2 paragraphs before I asked myself why the fuck am I even reading this?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    How the fuck is this shit 3 pages in without a Youth. Sports. Demise. reference?

    RIP, kjstoph1.
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    My man Jerome Collins at FWHS chuckles at Goncharoff's JV stuff.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,050
    edited August 2015

    a little birdie told me that if you dig into the on-goings at Bothell and Skyline, you'd find a few questionables.

    hoo cares? a non-story.

    Bothell, honestly is probably the cleanest of the programs mentioned. They built up the pee wee program there and surprise, they got better (after years of being the Kingco doormat). But to stay better Bothell will likely need to, Northshore is building a new North Creek High School that will alter the enrollment numbers of those schools.

    Bellevue has been dirty for years. No way in hell the limp wristed residents of Clyde Hill and Medina a feeding this football monster. Funny thing is they traditionally had good teams because of their peewee system (Newport is a good example of this), they just went a bit overboard.
    Let me just say, I didn't throw Bothell in there on a random guess. I've been around it for some time now. I'm aware of how it started, and have a pretty good idea where it is now. They've been importing players for a few years now. I also know the high school and the culture pretty well. It's a rabid, southern-style deal where the school is a diploma factory and the adults are fucking fanatic. New buildings; shit school.

    Go to one of those Junior Coug games on Sat. morning - there are like 20 middle-aged insurance salesmen running around on the sidelines sporting the uniform - tan pants and royal blue golf shirts - living out through their kids what they weren't able to do in high school themselves. Of course, they don't know what we know: that there's a good chance that junior will be standing on the sideline by the time he gets to HS and spend his Friday nights watching an import play his position.

    Alas, you are correct. North Creek High is likely going to do to Bothell what Black Hills High School did to Tumwater HS. Tumwater was a state juggernaut and then, BOOM! 1/2 the kids are gone, and the T-Birds haven't been heard from since.

    I give Bothell full credit though. As you said, Bainter built that up from nothing. And it was Bothell, not woody or inglemoor, that built that Texas-style stadium where Pop Keeney used to be. The Bothell boosters are a fucking force - that's why I laughed when you used the word "clean". I don't think they're as egregious as Bellevue, but along with Skyline and some others, they'd have little room to bitch.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,050

    a little birdie told me that if you dig into the on-goings at Bothell and Skyline, you'd find a few questionables.

    hoo cares? a non-story.

    You would find questionable at every program that is any good. I never knew there were so many doogs that hate winners here. Wait, actually I did.
    agreed.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    edited August 2015

    a little birdie told me that if you dig into the on-goings at Bothell and Skyline, you'd find a few questionables.

    hoo cares? a non-story.

    Bothell, honestly is probably the cleanest of the programs mentioned. They built up the pee wee program there and surprise, they got better (after years of being the Kingco doormat). But to stay better Bothell will likely need to, Northshore is building a new North Creek High School that will alter the enrollment numbers of those schools.

    Bellevue has been dirty for years. No way in hell the limp wristed residents of Clyde Hill and Medina a feeding this football monster. Funny thing is they traditionally had good teams because of their peewee system (Newport is a good example of this), they just went a bit overboard.
    Let me just say, I didn't throw Bothell in there on a random guess. I've been around it for some time now. I'm aware of how it started, and have a pretty good idea where it is now. They've been importing players for a few years now. I also know the high school and the culture pretty well. It's a rabid, southern-style deal where the school is a diploma factory and the adults are fucking fanatic. New buildings; shit school.

    Go to one of those Junior Coug games on Sat. morning - there are like 20 middle-aged insurance salesmen running around on the sidelines sporting the uniform - tan pants and royal blue golf shirts - living out through their kids what they weren't able to do in high school themselves. Of course, they don't know what we know: that there's a good chance that junior will be standing on the sideline by the time he gets to HS and spend his Friday nights watching an import play his position.

    Alas, you are correct. North Creek High is likely going to do to Bothell what Black Hills High School did to Tumwater HS. Tumwater was a state juggernaut and then, BOOM! 1/2 the kids are gone, and the T-Birds haven't been heard from since.

    I give Bothell full credit though. As you said, Bainter built that up from nothing. And it was Bothell, not woody or inglemoor, that built that Texas-style stadium where Pop Keeney used to be. The Bothell boosters are a fucking force - that's why I laughed when you used the word "clean". I don't think they're as egregious as Bellevue, but along with Skyline and some others, they'd have little room to bitch.
    If a TL;DR poast about Bothell HS cheating from a Cuog isn't enough to get you banned for life from these boreds, what the fuck is?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    a little birdie told me that if you dig into the on-goings at Bothell and Skyline, you'd find a few questionables.

    hoo cares? a non-story.

    Bothell, honestly is probably the cleanest of the programs mentioned. They built up the pee wee program there and surprise, they got better (after years of being the Kingco doormat). But to stay better Bothell will likely need to, Northshore is building a new North Creek High School that will alter the enrollment numbers of those schools.

    Bellevue has been dirty for years. No way in hell the limp wristed residents of Clyde Hill and Medina a feeding this football monster. Funny thing is they traditionally had good teams because of their peewee system (Newport is a good example of this), they just went a bit overboard.
    Let me just say, I didn't throw Bothell in there on a random guess. I've been around it for some time now. I'm aware of how it started, and have a pretty good idea where it is now. They've been importing players for a few years now. I also know the high school and the culture pretty well. It's a rabid, southern-style deal where the school is a diploma factory and the adults are fucking fanatic. New buildings; shit school.

    Go to one of those Junior Coug games on Sat. morning - there are like 20 middle-aged insurance salesmen running around on the sidelines sporting the uniform - tan pants and royal blue golf shirts - living out through their kids what they weren't able to do in high school themselves. Of course, they don't know what we know: that there's a good chance that junior will be standing on the sideline by the time he gets to HS and spend his Friday nights watching an import play his position.

    Alas, you are correct. North Creek High is likely going to do to Bothell what Black Hills High School did to Tumwater HS. Tumwater was a state juggernaut and then, BOOM! 1/2 the kids are gone, and the T-Birds haven't been heard from since.

    I give Bothell full credit though. As you said, Bainter built that up from nothing. And it was Bothell, not woody or inglemoor, that built that Texas-style stadium where Pop Keeney used to be. The Bothell boosters are a fucking force - that's why I laughed when you used the word "clean". I don't think they're as egregious as Bellevue, but along with Skyline and some others, they'd have little room to bitch.
    If a TL;DR poast about Bothell HS cheating from a Coog isn't enough to get you banned for life from these boreds, what the fuck is?
    Your* better than that
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    dnc said:

    a little birdie told me that if you dig into the on-goings at Bothell and Skyline, you'd find a few questionables.

    hoo cares? a non-story.

    Bothell, honestly is probably the cleanest of the programs mentioned. They built up the pee wee program there and surprise, they got better (after years of being the Kingco doormat). But to stay better Bothell will likely need to, Northshore is building a new North Creek High School that will alter the enrollment numbers of those schools.

    Bellevue has been dirty for years. No way in hell the limp wristed residents of Clyde Hill and Medina a feeding this football monster. Funny thing is they traditionally had good teams because of their peewee system (Newport is a good example of this), they just went a bit overboard.
    Let me just say, I didn't throw Bothell in there on a random guess. I've been around it for some time now. I'm aware of how it started, and have a pretty good idea where it is now. They've been importing players for a few years now. I also know the high school and the culture pretty well. It's a rabid, southern-style deal where the school is a diploma factory and the adults are fucking fanatic. New buildings; shit school.

    Go to one of those Junior Coug games on Sat. morning - there are like 20 middle-aged insurance salesmen running around on the sidelines sporting the uniform - tan pants and royal blue golf shirts - living out through their kids what they weren't able to do in high school themselves. Of course, they don't know what we know: that there's a good chance that junior will be standing on the sideline by the time he gets to HS and spend his Friday nights watching an import play his position.

    Alas, you are correct. North Creek High is likely going to do to Bothell what Black Hills High School did to Tumwater HS. Tumwater was a state juggernaut and then, BOOM! 1/2 the kids are gone, and the T-Birds haven't been heard from since.

    I give Bothell full credit though. As you said, Bainter built that up from nothing. And it was Bothell, not woody or inglemoor, that built that Texas-style stadium where Pop Keeney used to be. The Bothell boosters are a fucking force - that's why I laughed when you used the word "clean". I don't think they're as egregious as Bellevue, but along with Skyline and some others, they'd have little room to bitch.
    If a TL;DR poast about Bothell HS cheating from a Coog isn't enough to get you banned for life from these boreds, what the fuck is?
    Your* better than that
    Fixed.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited August 2015

    dnc said:

    a little birdie told me that if you dig into the on-goings at Bothell and Skyline, you'd find a few questionables.

    hoo cares? a non-story.

    Bothell, honestly is probably the cleanest of the programs mentioned. They built up the pee wee program there and surprise, they got better (after years of being the Kingco doormat). But to stay better Bothell will likely need to, Northshore is building a new North Creek High School that will alter the enrollment numbers of those schools.

    Bellevue has been dirty for years. No way in hell the limp wristed residents of Clyde Hill and Medina a feeding this football monster. Funny thing is they traditionally had good teams because of their peewee system (Newport is a good example of this), they just went a bit overboard.
    Let me just say, I didn't throw Bothell in there on a random guess. I've been around it for some time now. I'm aware of how it started, and have a pretty good idea where it is now. They've been importing players for a few years now. I also know the high school and the culture pretty well. It's a rabid, southern-style deal where the school is a diploma factory and the adults are fucking fanatic. New buildings; shit school.

    Go to one of those Junior Coug games on Sat. morning - there are like 20 middle-aged insurance salesmen running around on the sidelines sporting the uniform - tan pants and royal blue golf shirts - living out through their kids what they weren't able to do in high school themselves. Of course, they don't know what we know: that there's a good chance that junior will be standing on the sideline by the time he gets to HS and spend his Friday nights watching an import play his position.

    Alas, you are correct. North Creek High is likely going to do to Bothell what Black Hills High School did to Tumwater HS. Tumwater was a state juggernaut and then, BOOM! 1/2 the kids are gone, and the T-Birds haven't been heard from since.

    I give Bothell full credit though. As you said, Bainter built that up from nothing. And it was Bothell, not woody or inglemoor, that built that Texas-style stadium where Pop Keeney used to be. The Bothell boosters are a fucking force - that's why I laughed when you used the word "clean". I don't think they're as egregious as Bellevue, but along with Skyline and some others, they'd have little room to bitch.
    If a TL;DR poast about Bothell HS cheating from a Coog isn't enough to get you banned for life from these boreds, what the fuck is?
    Your* better than that
    Fixed.
    Quality fix, but still whoosh. I never would have guessed one of my favorite poasters shares a login with Tailgater.