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SI: USC Pac-12's Most Overrated

GrundleStiltzkin
GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
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And UW steepest decline. FYFMFE
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    The people that think we struggle to stay bowl eligible make me laff. 8+ wins easy in our dreckfest division and ooc schedule.
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    PurpleJ said:

    The people that think we struggle to stay bowl eligible make me laff. 8+ wins easy in our dreckfest division and ooc schedule.

    This. Lindquist is the starter for two more years, leading us to the Rose Bowl next year, and Browning the starter for the following two/three years.

    COOK IT
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    Swaye said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    PurpleJ said:

    The people that think we struggle to stay bowl eligible make me laff. 8+ wins easy in our dreckfest division and ooc schedule.

    This. Lindquist is the starter for two more years, leading us to the Rose Bowl next year, and Browning the starter for the following two/three years.

    COOK IT
    Meth is a terrible drug.
    It's more tolerable when mixed with benzos.

    A fren told me that...
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    UW was 4-5 last year. How much worse than that will it get?
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited August 2015
    http://hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/10778/football-discussion-how-good-will-the-defense-be/p1

    There are some fantastic threads from last summer.

    Bored consensus was 10-12 wins. Peterman got 8.

    The defense with FOUR ACTUAL DRAFT PICKS was 97th in the land.

    Something isn't adding up in Washington State, and it isn't Vernon Adam's maff final
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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    Nobody knew how bad Cyler was going to be. We simply couldn't move the sticks and the D gassed out.
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  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    The defense was #51 in yards per play. When you adjust for how long it was on the field, how terrible the offense was and how many points the D itself scored, it was definitely a top 35/40 defense. Clearly worse than expected, but nowhere near 97.

    Enjoy your regression this season.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited August 2015
    HeretoBeatmyChest said:

    The defense was #51 in yards per play. When you adjust for how long it was on the field, how terrible the offense was and how many points the D itself scored, it was definitely a top 35/40 defense. Clearly worse than expected, but nowhere near 97.

    Enjoy your regression this season.

    right click, save as

    #78 in total defense
    http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22/p2

    #120 in pass defense
    http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/695/p3

    The NCAA doesn't maintain the SRS stats, though
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  • Dardanus
    Dardanus Member Posts: 2,623
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    AZDuck said:

    HeretoBeatmyChest said:

    The defense was #51 in yards per play. When you adjust for how long it was on the field, how terrible the offense was and how many points the D itself scored, it was definitely a top 35/40 defense. Clearly worse than expected, but nowhere near 97.

    Enjoy your regression this season.

    right click, save as
    Fuck off
    left click, save as
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    AZDuck said:

    HeretoBeatmyChest said:

    The defense was #51 in yards per play. When you adjust for how long it was on the field, how terrible the offense was and how many points the D itself scored, it was definitely a top 35/40 defense. Clearly worse than expected, but nowhere near 97.

    Enjoy your regression this season.

    right click, save as
    Fuck off
    Scroll wheel click, save as
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    RaceBannon said:

    Why do you think we have the battered wife? We always end up feeling stupid for thinking we won't suck. Petermen caused irrational exuberance.

    Now this year we expect nothing. And we'll get it!

    I can find no fault with this poast
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  • The_Undertaker
    The_Undertaker Member Posts: 521
    Doogles said:

    Nobody knew how bad Cyler was going to be. We simply couldn't move the sticks and the D gassed out.

    That is why I was struggling to make any prediction going into last season. We didn't know what we had at QB.
    We have seen so many times in college how a bad QB can be a disaster for a team that wouldn't be awful otherwise. Sark was a master at winning against these kind of teams by the way, better than us but where we were able to focus on their QB and let him hand us the game.
    Well last year we lost at the QB lottery.

    But in the same vein, I am not as pessimistic as the consensus seem to be for this year. We have seen what, 1 full game of Lindquist, Carter Samuel, and Browning combined, and we already know we are fucked? What if one of them is decent? That will make everybody else around him look better. He doesn't need to be Andrew Luck for that. Just decent. The likely scenario is he will get killed by his OL no matter what... but still.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    During PAC 12 play the defense wasn't bad. Other than Oregon and UCLA they played well. The Eastern game completely fucked the overall stats.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,882 Founders Club
    RoadDawg55 said:

    During PAC 12 play the defense wasn't bad. Other than Oregon and UCLA they played well. The Eastern game completely fucked the overall stats.

    And the ending to the Arizona game made us forget how well they did against an offense that pretty much lit up everyone else. So did Cal
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  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    RaceBannon said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    During PAC 12 play the defense wasn't bad. Other than Oregon and UCLA they played well. The Eastern game completely fucked the overall stats.

    And the ending to the Arizona game made us forget how well they did against an offense that pretty much lit up everyone else. So did Cal
    So it was a biased #97 ranking? Skewed? Abundance...?
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  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    Doogles said:

    I want a ranking that accounts for Timu's 5 pick 6 drops on the year.

    Yea but... 4 draft picks
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,615 Standard Supporter
    Like previously mentioned, qb play sucked. We really didn't know how bad that pothead was. We're used to good to great QB play at Warshington. There was a time 15 or 20 years ago when 3-5 were in the fucking NFL at once.

    If you inserted an average Pac 12 qb with an okay arm, you win at least one more gayme and likely two or possibly three. 8 + 2: 10. 10-4 was what many said....
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    You've had good QBG play
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Like previously mentioned, qb play sucked. We really didn't know how bad that pothead was. We're used to good to great QB play at Warshington. There was a time 15 or 20 years ago when 3-5 were in the fucking NFL at once.

    If you inserted an average Pac 12 qb with an okay arm, you win at least one more gayme and likely two or possibly three. 8 + 2: 10. 10-4 was what many said....

    I'm gonna need to see actual good to great QB play within the last 15 years in Montlake.
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