Steve Sarkisian Ranked as 9th Best Coach in Pac-12
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Reason number 7,810 why the SEC SEC SEC is still better than the Pac-12:
The only head coaches behind him? Washington State’s Mike Leach, Cal’s Sonny Dykes and Colorado’s Mike MacIntyre, who together have combined to win just 28 percent of their games since joining the conference.
Topping the list by Athlon’s Steven Lassan is Todd Graham of ASU, followed by Rich Rodriguez of Arizona. Conference newcomer Gary Andersen at Oregon State is ranked sixth. -
List is shit
Case in point: #1, #2
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HopeSolosVajayjay said:
Pac-12 coaching is shit
Case in point: #1, #2
Also #3-12
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I'll bet Arizona would have beaten the Hoosiers in Tucson.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Reason number 7,810 why the SEC SEC SEC is still better than the Pac-12:
The only head coaches behind him? Washington State’s Mike Leach, Cal’s Sonny Dykes and Colorado’s Mike MacIntyre, who together have combined to win just 28 percent of their games since joining the conference.
Topping the list by Athlon’s Steven Lassan is Todd Graham of ASU, followed by Rich Rodriguez of Arizona. Conference newcomer Gary Andersen at Oregon State is ranked sixth. -
They couldn't even beat Boise State in Glendale. Shit, they barely beat Nevada in Tucson.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I'll bet Arizona would have beaten the Hoosiers in Tucson.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Reason number 7,810 why the SEC SEC SEC is still better than the Pac-12:
The only head coaches behind him? Washington State’s Mike Leach, Cal’s Sonny Dykes and Colorado’s Mike MacIntyre, who together have combined to win just 28 percent of their games since joining the conference.
Topping the list by Athlon’s Steven Lassan is Todd Graham of ASU, followed by Rich Rodriguez of Arizona. Conference newcomer Gary Andersen at Oregon State is ranked sixth.
Just for fun, let's call the Pac-12 South and SEC East a push. Want to compare the Pac-12 North with the SEC West? -
I was too kind. I used to make the point he was the 6th or 7th best coach on Doogman in 2012 and 2013, and that WASHINGTON doesn't need to settle for that (damnit). Lame Kitten was still around then though. Maybe Erickson too.
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9th seems about right for Sark. The rest of the list is kind of questionable. Mora is flawed, but he's better than 8th. I have a hard time with Rich Rod being #2 and Mora 8. Mora could be better, and if he's not, the gap is very small. It's hard to rank these coaches. Either they have not been coaching for long or haven't accomplished anything in the Pac 12.
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This. The most accomplished coach in the conference is David Shaw and he sucks.RoadDawg55 said:9th seems about right for Sark. The rest of the list is kind of questionable. Mora is flawed, but he's better than 8th. I have a hard time with Rich Rod being #2 and Mora 8. Mora could be better, and if he's not, the gap is very small. It's hard to rank these coaches. Either they have not been coaching for long or haven't accomplished anything in the Pac 12.
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Lists like this are always HFS but give us something to argue about.
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Fuck it, I'll Doog.
1. Pete - Seriously wouldn't trade him for any coach in the conference. The wins need to follow, but his process is the real deal. Factor in his unique perspective on coaching that most likely keeps him from selling the couch after success like Graham, and you have a legitimate program (dare I say dynasty?) builder.
2. Shaw - His smug conservative attitude murders him in the red zone, but Harbaugh has been gone long enough now and I still see the physical characteristics and line play from those teams. I'd trust Shaws Stanford to go south and beat a quality sec team before any of the std ridden zona schools.
3. Dick Rod - I take him over Graham because he's taken his traveler's lumps and provides more traction for a program. He Almost murdered Tuitama in the Fiesta bowl, but he's a damn good coach and perfect for zona.
4. Graham - will be in another conference soon enough, but consistently produces.
5. Mora - Sloppy as fuck, but experienced and wins. Could easily jump to the top of the list if he takes UCLA to the next level. Could easily plummet if he keeps UCLA at underachieving UCLA level.
6. Slingblade - I know the Coker effect is all the rage, but I think what happened in the Natty is an Oregon problem. Popped off against the defending national champs. I don't think he is chip, but I doubt the program craters.
7. Whittingham - The transition has been rough, but a lot of that has to do with getting the mid major label off the program as much as anything. His teams play physical football. To bad he isn't a QB guru.
8. Dikes - Cal was easily the most improved team after the dumpster fire of a first year. I expect them to continue to improve since they actually have a QB. He's going to be for Cal what the coogs wanted from leach.
9. Sark - Like his dick, below average. If he gets a lot of Viagra in there he might gain a few, but most likely will fall limp.
10. The guy who yells on Colorado's sideline - I don't know much about him besides he made san Jose state good which is hard to do. Has the most room to grow because he took over a complete shit show.
11. OSU coach - Not Mike Reilly. Needs to prove he can do more with less then pop off.
12. LOL Coogs - seriously don't think it matters who coaches here. The worst institution, in the worst location, with the worst tradition...simply the worst everything. How did Price do it? Oh yeah, hookers and blow. -
But how is Seven a bad coach?
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When Shaw is the second best coach in your league, the coaches in your league suck.Doogles said:Fuck it, I'll Doog.
1. Pete - Seriously wouldn't trade him for any coach in the conference. The wins need to follow, but his process is the real deal. Factor in his unique perspective on coaching that most likely keeps him from selling the couch after success like Graham, and you have a legitimate program (dare I say dynasty?) builder.
2. Shaw - His smug conservative attitude murders him in the red zone, but Harbaugh has been gone long enough now and I still see the physical characteristics and line play from those teams. I'd trust Shaws Stanford to go south and beat a quality sec team before any of the std ridden zona schools.
3. Dick Rod - I take him over Graham because he's taken his traveler's lumps and provides more traction for a program. He Almost murdered Tuitama in the Fiesta bowl, but he's a damn good coach and perfect for zona.
4. Graham - will be in another conference soon enough, but consistently produces.
5. Mora - Sloppy as fuck, but experienced and wins. Could easily jump to the top of the list if he takes UCLA to the next level. Could easily plummet if he keeps UCLA at underachieving UCLA level.
6. Slingblade - I know the Coker effect is all the rage, but I think what happened in the Natty is an Oregon problem. Popped off against the defending national champs. I don't think he is chip, but I doubt the program craters.
7. Whittingham - The transition has been rough, but a lot of that has to do with getting the mid major label off the program as much as anything. His teams play physical football. To bad he isn't a QB guru.
8. Dikes - Cal was easily the most improved team after the dumpster fire of a first year. I expect them to continue to improve since they actually have a QB. He's going to be for Cal what the coogs wanted from leach.
9. Sark - Like his dick, below average. If he gets a lot of Viagra in there he might gain a few, but most likely will fall limp.
10. The guy who yells on Colorado's sideline - I don't know much about him besides he made san Jose state good which is hard to do. Has the most room to grow because he took over a complete shit show.
11. OSU coach - Not Mike Reilly. Needs to prove he can do more with less then pop off.
12. LOL Coogs - seriously don't think it matters who coaches here. The worst institution, in the worst location, with the worst tradition...simply the worst everything. How did Price do it? Oh yeah, hookers and blow. -
The Pac 12 North team made it further than the SECW team. Are we done here?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
They couldn't even beat Boise State in Glendale. Shit, they barely beat Nevada in Tucson.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I'll bet Arizona would have beaten the Hoosiers in Tucson.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Reason number 7,810 why the SEC SEC SEC is still better than the Pac-12:
The only head coaches behind him? Washington State’s Mike Leach, Cal’s Sonny Dykes and Colorado’s Mike MacIntyre, who together have combined to win just 28 percent of their games since joining the conference.
Topping the list by Athlon’s Steven Lassan is Todd Graham of ASU, followed by Rich Rodriguez of Arizona. Conference newcomer Gary Andersen at Oregon State is ranked sixth.
Just for fun, let's call the Pac-12 South and SEC East a push. Want to compare the Pac-12 North with the SEC West? -
Top 5 as far as who I'd want to coach UW
1. Petersen
2. Anderson
3. Mora
4. Graham
5. Rich Rod
6. Ossai -
Pac12 coaching philosophy in a nutshell
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Sark is still too high.
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Shaw isn't recruiting very well at the skill positions, I suspect Furd is going to go back to their losing ways soon...just stack the D on the line against Furd all game long now, they're out of receivers and TEs now.
I think Whittingham is a good coach for what athletes he has, but it would be wise for him to do what Riley did after this next season.
The Pirate has taken cuogin-it to the next level. I hope he keeps winning just enough not to be fired.
Mora and Sark are passive-aggressive, drama Queens after a bad game. I'm glad they're both in LA. -
If Pete died tomorrow and we had to hire another P12 coach, my preference order would be:
1. Anderbeav
2. Mora
3. Graham
The "I would literally rather see the program shut down than hire this guy" tier:
4. Dick Rod
5. Whitingham
Then there's the "we didn't start the fire" tier:
6. Slingblade.
7. "Respectable Man In Pleated Khakis and Running Shoes" Shaw.
The "Exchangeable In Sark's Memory" tier:
8. Shitty Mack
9. Fat Dykes
The "if you met him at an IHOP in his sweats and later learned he was paid millions of dollars to coach D-I college football you'd have a stroke" tier:
10. Pirate Bunghole
The Pat Haden Memorial Patron Party Bus tier:
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Pete needs to accomplish something at UW before being #1. He's somewhere in the middle right now.
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Middle? Please. He is at the top of the list unless and until he implodes at UW.RoadDawg55 said:Pete needs to accomplish something at UW before being #1. He's somewhere in the middle right now.
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The SECW team did better against the same opponent. Stop blaming the fucktarded CFP committee for their refusal to schedule a REAL Rose Bowl on New Year's Day.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
The Pac 12 North team made it further than the SECW team. Are we done here?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
They couldn't even beat Boise State in Glendale. Shit, they barely beat Nevada in Tucson.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I'll bet Arizona would have beaten the Hoosiers in Tucson.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Reason number 7,810 why the SEC SEC SEC is still better than the Pac-12:
The only head coaches behind him? Washington State’s Mike Leach, Cal’s Sonny Dykes and Colorado’s Mike MacIntyre, who together have combined to win just 28 percent of their games since joining the conference.
Topping the list by Athlon’s Steven Lassan is Todd Graham of ASU, followed by Rich Rodriguez of Arizona. Conference newcomer Gary Andersen at Oregon State is ranked sixth.
Just for fun, let's call the Pac-12 South and SEC East a push. Want to compare the Pac-12 North with the SEC West? -
Unlike Riley, Whittingham is good enough to justify a move up.priapism said:Shaw isn't recruiting very well at the skill positions, I suspect Furd is going to go back to their losing ways soon...just stack the D on the line against Furd all game long now, they're out of receivers and TEs now.
I think Whittingham is a good coach for what athletes he has, but it would be wise for him to do what Riley did after this next season.
The Pirate has taken cuogin-it to the next level. I hope he keeps winning just enough not to be fired.
Mora and Sark are passive-aggressive, drama Queens after a bad game. I'm glad they're both in LA. -
Disagree. Some of the worst coaching I have ever seen late in the UCLA game.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Unlike Riley, Whittingham is good enough to justify a move up.priapism said:Shaw isn't recruiting very well at the skill positions, I suspect Furd is going to go back to their losing ways soon...just stack the D on the line against Furd all game long now, they're out of receivers and TEs now.
I think Whittingham is a good coach for what athletes he has, but it would be wise for him to do what Riley did after this next season.
The Pirate has taken cuogin-it to the next level. I hope he keeps winning just enough not to be fired.
Mora and Sark are passive-aggressive, drama Queens after a bad game. I'm glad they're both in LA. -
38% conference win pct is always special.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Unlike Riley, Whittingham is good enough to justify a move up.priapism said:Shaw isn't recruiting very well at the skill positions, I suspect Furd is going to go back to their losing ways soon...just stack the D on the line against Furd all game long now, they're out of receivers and TEs now.
I think Whittingham is a good coach for what athletes he has, but it would be wise for him to do what Riley did after this next season.
The Pirate has taken cuogin-it to the next level. I hope he keeps winning just enough not to be fired.
Mora and Sark are passive-aggressive, drama Queens after a bad game. I'm glad they're both in LA.
But how is boobs a fucktard?
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I think Gary Anderson is legit, if you put Petersen up at #1 Anderson shouldn't be too far behind. What he did at Wisconsin with a QB worse than Miles is holy shit wow.
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Listen, writers at Athlon are bottom of the barrel dipshits. Whoever put Rodriguez at #2 had brain freeze and squeaked that out their ass. Pretty obvious David Shaw deserves to be at the top. What to expect from east-coast SEC ball licking 'college football experts"
Back in the 90's Athlon was ok. Now its unreadable. You werent born then Tommy, J...trust me it was better then.
Has Rodriguez or Graham won the pac12 yet? Fuck no. By Athlon's logic Petersen should be #1. Shaw has won it twice, Billy Bob got to national title game. Rich Rod got to fiesta by default in horrible pac 12 south(Washington beat them, on their field at home, with Cyrus at QB...case closed), Graham has a holiday bowl and another wortless Tom Hansen bowl on his resume, whoopie-fucking-doo.
If Graham cant win a big game, and Arizona will never win the pac12, how did Athlon come to these conclusions? Just embarrassing to read this shit. If you wanted a real and accurate list of pac12 order, should have just asked puppy. -
With all the redneck cotton and tobacco money the SEC throws around, you'd think their East winner would be able to beat lowly Indiana and distance themselves from conferences in which David Shaw is considered a top three coach and Duke makes a championship game. I mean, Missouri is better than Georgia right?
Okay, sorry, no more threadjacks.
Graham has to be top three. He's not an all-time great or anything, but he gets results from a historically underachieving team.
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look at UCLA under Mora? He won the south in his 2nd year, and off hand I think he won it his 1st. I dont think he's #3 (more like 4-5), but has an equal claim with Graham.
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puppylove_sugarsteel said:
looked at UCLA under Mora? He won the south in his 2nd year. I dont think he's #3 (more like 4-5), but has an equal claim with Graham.
How is it again he can follow Neuheisel the program destroyer and make it to the Pac 12 South championship twice? Either Mora is a good coach, or Neu is not as bad as some think?
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Abundance, asshole.NeGgaPlEaSe said:puppylove_sugarsteel said:looked at UCLA under Mora? He won the south in his 2nd year. I dont think he's #3 (more like 4-5), but has an equal claim with Graham.
How is it again he can follow Neuheisel the program destroyer and make it to the Pac 12 South championship twice? Either Mora is a good coach, or Neu is not as bad as some think?
