Offensive Depth for Spring
QB (3)
Jeff Lindquist, JR
KJ Carta-Samuels, FR
Jake Browning, FR
RB (4)
Deontae Cooper, SR
Dwayne Washington, JR
Lavon Coleman, SO
Jomon Dotson, FR
WR (4)
Jaydon Mickens, SR
Marvin Hall, SR
Dante Pettis, SO
Brayden Lenius, SO
TE (4)
Josh Perkins, SR
Darrell Daniels, JR
David Ajamu, SO
Drew Sample, FR
OL (13)
Dexter Charles, SR
Siosifa Tufunga, SR
Jake Eldrenkamp, JR
Shane Brostek, JR
Cory Fuavai, JR
Coleman Shelton, SO
Andrew Kirkland, SO
Dane Crane, SO
Kaleb McGary, FR
Jesse Sosebee, FR
Matt James, FR
John Turner, FR
Devin Burleson, FR
That's 28 scholarship players this Spring, not counting John Ross or anyone else splitting time between Off/Def this spring. Of those 28 players, 5 are starters from 2014 (Pettis started the last 5 games), 10 more saw action in 2014, and 13 are essentially "new" under the Petersen regime.
Considering the lack of depth, that means there'll be a lot of one-on-one time with the coaches, especially for the QBs and WRs. I'm sure the OL will be fluid this spring, trying many different combinations, so I wouldn't read much into that until the Spring "Preview" at the end of April. It'll be interesting to see what Petersen, Smith, and the new Offensive Quality coach Hamdan do with the offense, considering how pitiful it was last year. I expect they'll make major changes now that they have QBs who can throw the ball downfield now.
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There is a lot of upperclassman on the offisive line, PM to Petersen, Win or GTFO
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Anybody missing spring practice due to injury or surgery? I can't remember. Always seems to be a few.
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Or not...whatshouldicareabout said:
Considering the lack of depth, that means there'll be a lot of one-on-one time with the coaches, especially for the QBs and WRs. I'm sure the OL will be fluid this spring, trying many different combinations, so I wouldn't read much into that until the Spring "Preview" at the end of April. It'll be interesting to see what Petersen, Smith, and the new Offensive Quality coach Hamdan do with the offense, considering how pitiful it was last year. I expect they'll make major changes now that they have QBs who can throw the ball downfield now. -
Seriously though, thanks for putting the list together. There is definitely a LOT of inexperience there. This could actually be a good thing, as the coaches won't have to fix any bad habits the players may have picked up from the previous staff.
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Good point.YeahILikeDawgs said:Anybody missing spring practice due to injury or surgery? I can't remember. Always seems to be a few.
We could use the combine as a surrogate measure since if they weren't participating there, they likely won't be practicing this spring. If that's the case, sounds like it's only Ross. -
take this to the football bored.
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I don't know if there is a lot....it's half....as it should be.NeGgaPlEaSe said:There is a lot of upperclassman on the offisive line, PM to Petersen, Win or GTFO
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If you don't like this roster, thank Sark. As far as buy-in... you have to think the surviving upper classmen have found a way to buy in to the Peterman way. The others gtfo, by now, I would assume.
Next years roster will feature a transition class plus two full years of recruiting. We know how questionably Sark recruited in 2009, 2010 and 2011... and how that played out in 2013-14. I'd bet one year from today, that roster has many fewer Sark players on it. They'll be crowded out by okg's staying enrolled and developing... and Peterman signing full balanced classes that make it to school. -
2021 will indeed be special.
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Its a pretty shit roster offensively at least on paper. One can expect material improvement at the QB spot, so there is that.
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I agree with the title of this thread. That depth chart is pretty offensive.
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WOOF
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Why? because the one guy with game experience was shittier than Cyler Miles?Penace said:Its a pretty shit roster offensively at least on paper. One can expect material improvement at the QB spot, so there is that.
It's certainly possible that magna carta or brownling are an improvement, but I'm not sure why we should expect it.
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This bored is a household favorite url following (and during) every loss.Dardanus said:
Why? because the one guy with game experience was shittier than Cyler Miles?Penace said:Its a pretty shit roster offensively at least on paper. One can expect material improvement at the QB spot, so there is that.
It's certainly possible that magna carta or brownling are an improvement, but I'm not sure why we should expect it.
If QB play is worse this year than it was last year, I expect this bored to be awesome.
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I actually expect Mickens to tear shit up his senior season. The only thing I got out of the bowl game is at least he gives a fuck and tries hard.
My theory depends on him watching the game film and understanding how devastating he can be when he gets up field. The time for the razzle dazzle is in the second level, you need to get north before you think about it.
If that lesson is learned, I think he'll be the surprise of the season, perhaps the beneficiary of quick dump offs by the young QBs. -
Lindy needs to seriously step the fuck up. This OL isn't mature enough to protect Fresh QBs.Dardanus said:
Why? because the one guy with game experience was shittier than Cyler Miles?Penace said:Its a pretty shit roster offensively at least on paper. One can expect material improvement at the QB spot, so there is that.
It's certainly possible that magna carta or brownling are an improvement, but I'm not sure why we should expect it.
If QB play is worse this year than it was last year, I expect this bored to be awesome. -
might as well have fuckin' nobody at quarterback. Does Felix sweetman have eligibility?
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If I could quote someone of influence from DMC, "Woody gets it."
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Nobody at quarterback? Tried that last year, doesn't work...ApostleofGrief said:might as well have fuckin' nobody at quarterback. Does Felix sweetman have eligibility?
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NeGgaPlEaSe said:
There is a lot of upperclassman on the offisive line, PM to Petersen, Win or GTFO
I'm not convinced that is automatically a good thing. Either they're good, or somebody should have run them off by now.
At least Peterman isn't bashful about running off Sark's boys. Keep it up. Peterman shares your feelings about play my way or GTFO. -
They'll also graduate another class of Sark's recruits too. In other news, water is wet.sarktastic said:If you don't like this roster, thank Sark. As far as buy-in... you have to think the surviving upper classmen have found a way to buy in to the Peterman way. The others gtfo, by now, I would assume.
Next years roster will feature a transition class plus two full years of recruiting. We know how questionably Sark recruited in 2009, 2010 and 2011... and how that played out in 2013-14. I'd bet one year from today, that roster has many fewer Sark players on it. They'll be crowded out by okg's staying enrolled and developing... and Peterman signing full balanced classes that make it to school. -
Yes sometimes I he tries so hard to catch the ball that he doesn't catch the ball. He was best catching bubble screens. Carta and Lindquist can hopefuly get him the ball quicker than Miles could.Doogles said:I actually expect Mickens to tear shit up his senior season. The only thing I got out of the bowl game is at least he gives a fuck and tries hard.
My theory depends on him watching the game film and understanding how devastating he can be when he gets up field. The time for the razzle dazzle is in the second level, you need to get north before you think about it.
If that lesson is learned, I think he'll be the surprise of the season, perhaps the beneficiary of quick dump offs by the young QBs. -
based on Jude's interview with Kwawwtitowcwoski sounds like Feeney is out for spring practice.whatshouldicareabout said:
Good point.YeahILikeDawgs said:Anybody missing spring practice due to injury or surgery? I can't remember. Always seems to be a few.
We could use the combine as a surrogate measure since if they weren't participating there, they likely won't be practicing this spring. If that's the case, sounds like it's only Ross. -
I've had the same attitude for ten years. No coach, with a full off-season, has had a sub top 40 class at Washington since the early 70s or so. There's at worst top 25 or 30 talent. So coach them up, develop them, and win some games. Every team plays freshmen. I don't expect this foreboding, giveaway 6-6 season, not if Petersen is half of what we think he is.
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Until proven otherwise, everyone on our offense sucks. Last year we were in that sweet spot where everyone with talent didn't want to work and everyone who wanted to work had no talent.
I think two of our best potential offensive weapons are on D (Ross and Budda—who is a natural with the ball).
There are basically two players I have hope for (Pettis & Lenius), three I have some pipe dreams for (Daniels, Coleman & Washington) and some players who would shock me by turning out to be good (Mickens, Charles, Cooper, Tufunga & Hall). We have one player who is massively average (Perkins) and then a bunch of people I've only seen HS film on.
Still, with this batch of discount bin butt-fucks, we could've won last year if Cyler Miles wasn't completely incompetent.
At QB this year—I have no idea. My distaste for Browning's HS film is well known. I love KJCS as a prospect and Lindy is a fucktarded monkey.
But, I will admit I have no idea what CCP is trying to do on offense (that shit last year was a pile of pig intestines). I don't understand anything that happened on offense last year other than the fact that Cyler was a total waste of life, Mickens is a dancing idiot and we have two Jeckyll and Hyde tailbacks.
Who the fuck knows?
And, to wrap up my survey of our offensive depth, it strikes me that trying to think about our OL in any serious way is like diving into a lake and immediately being enveloped by polluted, slimy ribbons of algae. -
I feel like I haven't been able to make the assumption that "player X will be better next season" in god knows how long. Over the last decade players just haven't really gotten better from when they entered to when the left the program. Other than the general getting bigger and "growing into their body" type of improvement I can't think of a player whose skills appreciated significantly from one season to the next.
There is plenty of talent on the offense. Coleman has good vision between the tackles, Washington is a home run hitter once he gets to the second level and Pettis has shown he is dangerous with the ball in his hand on O and special teams. Is it crazy to think that some of those guys could actually get better from last year to this year? -
Dexter Charles, SR
Siosifa Tufunga, SR
Jake Eldrenkamp, JR
Shane Brostek, JR
Eldrenkamp and Brostek have to be halfway decent with all the gym time and maturity, or Petersen is not who I thought he was. That's more than I can say of last years starters who were a total drekfest, with two star to first round Atoe leading the way.
Coleman Shelton, SO
Andrew Kirkland, SO
Dane Crane, SO
At least 2 of the 3 will break through next year and should definitely be an upgrade. Besides these are Petersen's guys, so fuck off with that young excuse. If Dane Crane is who we thought he was when he was recruited, and isn't hiking the ball into the end zone, we have an immediate upgrade with the qb position.
Now if this line is an upgrade of Sark's bullshit line, Washington and Coleman, supplemented by the old man, aka 2 knees Cooper, should actually produce. If these guys are coached up at all, if not fuck them, play the 2 freshman. Have we really given up on Linquist, because of 1/2 of a game football, because the first half he was not that bad? How hard can it be to take a 3 step drop throw long to Ross, across the middle to Daniels or dump off to Mickens? He may be serviceable with a decent line not playing 1 Mississippi, and decent running game. I seriously don't see how this years offense is worse than last year. So really he needs to win or GTFO. -
Not one of the SR, JR, or SO linemen are "Petersen's guys". Unless a RSFR cracks the rotation, this will be another year of "Sark's bullshit lines". To your point, that's not to say the upperclassmen can't develop, but there are only 3 guys who have played and have not sucked balls (Charles, Tufunga, Shelton). I don't expect miracles this year.NeGgaPlEaSe said:Dexter Charles, SR
Siosifa Tufunga, SR
Jake Eldrenkamp, JR
Shane Brostek, JR
Eldrenkamp and Brostek have to be halfway decent with all the gym time and maturity, or Petersen is not who I thought he was. That's more than I can say of last years starters who were a total drekfest, with two star to first round Atoe leading the way.
Coleman Shelton, SO
Andrew Kirkland, SO
Dane Crane, SO
At least 2 of the 3 will break through next year and should definitely be an upgrade. Besides these are Petersen's guys, so fuck off with that young excuse. If Dane Crane is who we thought he was when he was recruited, and isn't hiking the ball into the end zone, we have an immediate upgrade with the qb position.
Now if this line is an upgrade of Sark's bullshit line, Washington and Coleman, supplemented by the old man, aka 2 knees Cooper, should actually produce. If these guys are coached up at all, if not fuck them, play the 2 freshman. Have we really given up on Linquist, because of 1/2 of a game football, because the first half he was not that bad? How hard can it be to take a 3 step drop throw long to Ross, across the middle to Daniels or dump off to Mickens? He may be serviceable with a decent line not playing 1 Mississippi, and decent running game. I seriously don't see how this years offense is worse than last year. So really he needs to win or GTFO. -
Haven't seen any ranting this good in a long long while, not since Race died of aids ...Dennis_DeYoung said:
And, to wrap up my survey of our offensive depth, it strikes me that trying to think about our OL in any serious way is like diving into a lake and immediately being enveloped by polluted, slimy ribbons of algae.
