The basketball team ACTUALLY does not suck...
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Gant was still horrible. He was a contributor on pretty good teams, but that isn't because he was any good. They depth at the 4/5 has always been thin under Romar. Mike Jensen and Hakeem Rollins were contributors too. It doesn't mean they were any good.ThomasFremont said:
Fine. They both suck.RoadDawg55 said:
They both suck. Jarreau sucks a little less.ThomasFremont said:
You're a fucking retard if you think that's true.RoadDawg55 said:
Gant was garbage. He was as bad or worse than Jarreau around the basket. Jarreau is two inches taller and more skilled than Gant. Better passer, will probably be a better rebounder, better shot blocker. In other words, they are very close, but I will take the 6'10" guy over the 6'8" guy.ThomasFremont said:
Gant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jerreaux.dhdawg said:
I wasn't a huge fan of gant either. Both were bench players really and it pissed me off that twice in 2011 he was taking the last shot (Cal and UCLA I believe)RoadDawg55 said:
He's soft. He's not completely useless. He's just been severely overrated by dipshits who are mesmerized that he was a guard in high school before a growth spurt. He probably was a really shitty guard.dhdawg said:
he can shoot the midrange jumper, and isn't horrific from the line. But he can't finish around the basket to save his life, it's almost unreal how bad he is inside considering his sizeDugtheDoog said:Am I the only one who fucking cringes every time spado's golden boy Jerreau touches the ball? Guy is fucking terrible. He got a couple lucky baskets but missed quite a few jumpers that barely hit the backboard.
I was waiting for them to choke the game away and I was surprised they showed some grit. I'm definitely in LIPO mode but Tim Floyd is a damn good coach and UTEP just beat Xavier, who always has solid teams. Definitely better than getting run out of the gym by Irvine and South Dakota. Time to sign Romar till 2026 so he doesn't lose recruits.
I would still rather have Jarreau than Gant. He's a taller version of Gant without the range.
Better defender, better athlete, better knee ligaments.
But Jarreau has done nothing to warrant a higher ranking. Unless being a doog legend counts for something.
Gant contributed to championships. Jarow couldn't guard James Harden. Or Jordan Hill. Or all the other NBA players he was put on.
Gant and Holiday were nonexistent on offense, but their defense was a big part of the success of those teams.
So actually, he didn't suck. Jereaux sucks.
Gant was a soft 4 who couldn't rebound or finish around the basket unless it was a wide open dunk. He could hit an open jumper sometimes, but shot really low percentage wise. 37, 41, 40, and 47. I remember Gant guarding Harden so that one is valid, but Jordan Hill always killed UW.
All things equal, you are probably right and Gant is better. He's at least more proven. On this team though, I would rather have Jarreau as the complimentary big guy than Gant. -
Id say Gant was a pretty average player.
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It is a bit comical how the goal poasts have moved for this program. 4 years ago we would be complaining about sniffing out wins vs LBS and UTEP, instead we're rejoicing about being undefeated against the children of the blind(and utep).
The team is showing much more promise, i'll give them that. I'm still incredibly concerned about depth, upshaw, and our shooting once we play quality teams and start pac12 play. One other bonus we used to enjoy was home court advantage. That is now gone completely and we can't except to go 7-1 at home even with a mediocre team. But at least our shooting seems to be less dismal than it started.
This team is much more fun to watch than the last few years. NWG and Upshaw(when he's playing) are an absolute pleasure to watch. Upshaw is still raw, but it's fun to see a guy who can change the whole landscape on the defensive end. AA is still one of the hardest players to watch, but if he could ever figure out how to not try and do so much he really could be a decent player. Sadly he's streaky b/c of his style of play, which more often sides to the negative than positive.
A few other thoughts on this team that have changed is fewer guys are getting to the basket than the last 2-3 years. Upshaw is certainly part of that, but realistically we're playing much better on ball defense. It's still not great, but it's not nearly the open door defense we've been seeing over and over.
Dorsey is the anti DJ. I thought DJ would be much better than year, and likely play a key role into this year. Instead, Dorsey is a guy I could see being a starter by mid pac-12. He seems to flow well on offense and plays decent defense and doesn't turn the ball over. His size still surprises me every time I see him on the floor. For some reason I still have this string bean player in my head. He's going to be a 6th man at worst by pac12 rotation and one of the other true 3 point threats on the floor(shooting 48% on the year so far).
By pac12, the rotation I see is
PG - NWG
SG(or off guard for all your fucktards who are going to tell me romar doesn't have a 1-5 system) - AA
SF - Anderson
PF - JJ
C - Upshaw
Bench rotation
1 - Dorsey
2 - Kemp
3 - Winters
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Totally agree on Dorsey vs DJ.FreeChavez said:It is a bit comical how the goal poasts have moved for this program. 4 years ago we would be complaining about sniffing out wins vs LBS and UTEP, instead we're rejoicing about being undefeated against the children of the blind(and utep).
The team is showing much more promise, i'll give them that. I'm still incredibly concerned about depth, upshaw, and our shooting once we play quality teams and start pac12 play. One other bonus we used to enjoy was home court advantage. That is now gone completely and we can't except to go 7-1 at home even with a mediocre team. But at least our shooting seems to be less dismal than it started.
This team is much more fun to watch than the last few years. NWG and Upshaw(when he's playing) are an absolute pleasure to watch. Upshaw is still raw, but it's fun to see a guy who can change the whole landscape on the defensive end. AA is still one of the hardest players to watch, but if he could ever figure out how to not try and do so much he really could be a decent player. Sadly he's streaky b/c of his style of play, which more often sides to the negative than positive.
A few other thoughts on this team that have changed is fewer guys are getting to the basket than the last 2-3 years. Upshaw is certainly part of that, but realistically we're playing much better on ball defense. It's still not great, but it's not nearly the open door defense we've been seeing over and over.
Dorsey is the anti DJ. I thought DJ would be much better than year, and likely play a key role into this year. Instead, Dorsey is a guy I could see being a starter by mid pac-12. He seems to flow well on offense and plays decent defense and doesn't turn the ball over. His size still surprises me every time I see him on the floor. For some reason I still have this string bean player in my head. He's going to be a 6th man at worst by pac12 rotation and one of the other true 3 point threats on the floor(shooting 48% on the year so far).
By pac12, the rotation I see is
PG - NWG
SG(or off guard for all your fucktards who are going to tell me romar doesn't have a 1-5 system) - AA
SF - Anderson
PF - JJ
C - Upshaw
Bench rotation
1 - Dorsey
2 - Kemp
3 - Winters
I don't see where DJ will get any minutes next year unless he improves dramatically or multiple injuries/transfers happen. Wouldn't be shocked if he transferred. Unless he wants to wait until senior year to have a shot at regular playing time. -
I am waiting for us to get past the S16 before I call myself a fan. I won't be a fan of course, but I will call myself one when we are good, because 12's.
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I'm not letting you on the bandwagon!!!!Swaye said:I am waiting for us to get past the S16 before I call myself a fan. I won't be a fan of course, but I will call myself one when we are good, because 12's.
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I'd be shocked to see DJ here next year if he isn't getting run during the season. Next year you have a stacked roster of frosh to go along with Dorsey, winters. Romar always plays more guys during preseason, but once the year starts we'll see a 7-8 man rotation. DJ is staring at less than 10 minutes a game right now once the season starts, and that might be generous.ThomasFremont said:
Totally agree on Dorsey vs DJ.FreeChavez said:It is a bit comical how the goal poasts have moved for this program. 4 years ago we would be complaining about sniffing out wins vs LBS and UTEP, instead we're rejoicing about being undefeated against the children of the blind(and utep).
The team is showing much more promise, i'll give them that. I'm still incredibly concerned about depth, upshaw, and our shooting once we play quality teams and start pac12 play. One other bonus we used to enjoy was home court advantage. That is now gone completely and we can't except to go 7-1 at home even with a mediocre team. But at least our shooting seems to be less dismal than it started.
This team is much more fun to watch than the last few years. NWG and Upshaw(when he's playing) are an absolute pleasure to watch. Upshaw is still raw, but it's fun to see a guy who can change the whole landscape on the defensive end. AA is still one of the hardest players to watch, but if he could ever figure out how to not try and do so much he really could be a decent player. Sadly he's streaky b/c of his style of play, which more often sides to the negative than positive.
A few other thoughts on this team that have changed is fewer guys are getting to the basket than the last 2-3 years. Upshaw is certainly part of that, but realistically we're playing much better on ball defense. It's still not great, but it's not nearly the open door defense we've been seeing over and over.
Dorsey is the anti DJ. I thought DJ would be much better than year, and likely play a key role into this year. Instead, Dorsey is a guy I could see being a starter by mid pac-12. He seems to flow well on offense and plays decent defense and doesn't turn the ball over. His size still surprises me every time I see him on the floor. For some reason I still have this string bean player in my head. He's going to be a 6th man at worst by pac12 rotation and one of the other true 3 point threats on the floor(shooting 48% on the year so far).
By pac12, the rotation I see is
PG - NWG
SG(or off guard for all your fucktards who are going to tell me romar doesn't have a 1-5 system) - AA
SF - Anderson
PF - JJ
C - Upshaw
Bench rotation
1 - Dorsey
2 - Kemp
3 - Winters
I don't see where DJ will get any minutes next year unless he improves dramatically or multiple injuries/transfers happen. Wouldn't be shocked if he transferred. Unless he wants to wait until senior year to have a shot at regular playing time. -
Even if Goss leaves after this year, I don't see how he gets into a rotation that includes AA, Crisp, Dorsey, Winters, Murray.FreeChavez said:
I'd be shocked to see DJ here next year if he isn't getting run during the season. Next year you have a stacked roster of frosh to go along with Dorsey, winters. Romar always plays more guys during preseason, but once the year starts we'll see a 7-8 man rotation. DJ is staring at less than 10 minutes a game right now once the season starts, and that might be generous.ThomasFremont said:
Totally agree on Dorsey vs DJ.FreeChavez said:It is a bit comical how the goal poasts have moved for this program. 4 years ago we would be complaining about sniffing out wins vs LBS and UTEP, instead we're rejoicing about being undefeated against the children of the blind(and utep).
The team is showing much more promise, i'll give them that. I'm still incredibly concerned about depth, upshaw, and our shooting once we play quality teams and start pac12 play. One other bonus we used to enjoy was home court advantage. That is now gone completely and we can't except to go 7-1 at home even with a mediocre team. But at least our shooting seems to be less dismal than it started.
This team is much more fun to watch than the last few years. NWG and Upshaw(when he's playing) are an absolute pleasure to watch. Upshaw is still raw, but it's fun to see a guy who can change the whole landscape on the defensive end. AA is still one of the hardest players to watch, but if he could ever figure out how to not try and do so much he really could be a decent player. Sadly he's streaky b/c of his style of play, which more often sides to the negative than positive.
A few other thoughts on this team that have changed is fewer guys are getting to the basket than the last 2-3 years. Upshaw is certainly part of that, but realistically we're playing much better on ball defense. It's still not great, but it's not nearly the open door defense we've been seeing over and over.
Dorsey is the anti DJ. I thought DJ would be much better than year, and likely play a key role into this year. Instead, Dorsey is a guy I could see being a starter by mid pac-12. He seems to flow well on offense and plays decent defense and doesn't turn the ball over. His size still surprises me every time I see him on the floor. For some reason I still have this string bean player in my head. He's going to be a 6th man at worst by pac12 rotation and one of the other true 3 point threats on the floor(shooting 48% on the year so far).
By pac12, the rotation I see is
PG - NWG
SG(or off guard for all your fucktards who are going to tell me romar doesn't have a 1-5 system) - AA
SF - Anderson
PF - JJ
C - Upshaw
Bench rotation
1 - Dorsey
2 - Kemp
3 - Winters
I don't see where DJ will get any minutes next year unless he improves dramatically or multiple injuries/transfers happen. Wouldn't be shocked if he transferred. Unless he wants to wait until senior year to have a shot at regular playing time. -
I'd let him on the bandwagon, but there isn't one.ThomasFremont said:
I'm not letting you on the bandwagon!!!!Swaye said:I am waiting for us to get past the S16 before I call myself a fan. I won't be a fan of course, but I will call myself one when we are good, because 12's.
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Bandscooter?dnc said:
I'd let him on the bandwagon, but there isn't one.ThomasFremont said:
I'm not letting you on the bandwagon!!!!Swaye said:I am waiting for us to get past the S16 before I call myself a fan. I won't be a fan of course, but I will call myself one when we are good, because 12's.
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Looking at it like this worries me. Kemp and Upshaw both can get themselves in foul trouble real quickly. They both also get gassed pretty quickly. If one of them gets in early foul trouble, the other has to play a ton of consecutive minutes which will hurt late in games. If both get in foul trouble in the same game we're fucked. We have no other big. Not even a garbage big. JJ? No WAY he's playing the 5. At that point we'd probably have to go NWG, AA, Dorsey/Winters/DJ, Anderson (he played the 4 a good amount last year, but we sucked last year) and JJ. That's a pretty bad defensive lineup.FreeChavez said:By pac12, the rotation I see is
PG - NWG
SG(or off guard for all your fucktards who are going to tell me romar doesn't have a 1-5 system) - AA
SF - Anderson
PF - JJ
C - Upshaw
Bench rotation
1 - Dorsey
2 - Kemp
3 - Winters -
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By top 20 I meant top 10 and at this point I don't care about basketball on the main bored, I like our little community of people that actually give a shit.BrothaString said:They passed the scrimmage games and got a trophy out of it, now they have two chances to get quality non-conf wins against SDSU (#15, almost beat Arizona) and Oklahoma. Drop em both, probably pretenders and miss the tourney again. Split em, LIPO but encouraging. Take em both, probably sitting at 12-0, ranked top 20 going into conference play and we no longer get bitched at for posting about basketball on the main board.
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And here JJ was not a dumpster fire. Progress.
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A career game is not a progress.kh83 said:And here JJ was not a dumpster fire. Progress.
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I like JJ. He's good and getting better.
Eventually he'll be good and possibly really good. -
Top 10 pick good? The next Anthony Davis?mobey said:I like JJ. He's good and getting better.
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I'm thinking a blend of Anthony Davis and KD's game... Abundance.RoadDawg55 said:
Top 10 pick good? The next Anthony Davis?mobey said:I like JJ. He's good and getting better.
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He at least moved like he has played before tonight. I was pretty critical on him last game, but that between the legs drive he had looked nice. And I loved how he shot the long J without hesitation and confidence. Swish every time. Probably the most encouraging thing about this game.
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I don't have a problem with JJ. I accepted he's only a role playing 2nd big a long time ago. He's 6'10" and not a total stiff. He's long and moves fairly well on defense. He's a pussy around the basket and is an average rebounder, but he has some decent tools as the 2nd big. I think he compliments Upshaw well.
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A 4 that can't box out for a rebound nor set screens for guards and only looks for long range jumpers that misses more often than not. #progress
As long as he doesn't take jumpers and pretends to play good d, I'm okay with him taking minutes between Kemp and Upshaw.
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The OP is the Post of the year
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In need of a good bumping
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Move this to the Mariners Bored to keep it going.
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This thread is overrated and has almost nothing in common with the AuburnDawg one.
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Irregardless, the poont is mute.RoadDawg55 said:This thread is overrated and has almost nothing in common with the AuburnDawg one.
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