Though on the cusp of a championship, the promotion of Mark Helfrich carries red flags, writes our resident Metrics Superiority Guy.
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So you guys are saying that neither Mark Helfrich nor Oregon will contend for NC's on a yearly basis? But seriously folksIf Oregon becomes anything less than a top 10 program, Helfrich will be door.ass.out. and Oregon will offer $7MM per year to upgrade the coach. Chip Kelly took Oregon from being a nice top 20 program to a national contender. And they've been there for 5 plus years now. Hiring Mark Helfrich made the most sense since the likes of Rich Rod, Todd Graham and others who run a similar scheme weren't available. Should Oregon drop off to even 10-3 next year, without a strong closing run. Oregon would make a change even then, should the right man be available. They don't nor won't be hiring a Big 12 cast off or WAC Wunderkind anytime soon, should it become time to make a change. Sincerely, $C, Texas, Florida, Michigan, Nebraska, Miami, Florida State (2001-2012), Penn State, and Notre ShameCoogs like anything that keeps the Huskies down. True Doogs think that Oregon's fortunes somehow has something to do with them.
So you guys are saying that neither Mark Helfrich nor Oregon will contend for NC's on a yearly basis? But seriously folksIf Oregon becomes anything less than a top 10 program, Helfrich will be door.ass.out. and Oregon will offer $7MM per year to upgrade the coach. Chip Kelly took Oregon from being a nice top 20 program to a national contender. And they've been there for 5 plus years now. Hiring Mark Helfrich made the most sense since the likes of Rich Rod, Todd Graham and others who run a similar scheme weren't available. Should Oregon drop off to even 10-3 next year, without a strong closing run. Oregon would make a change even then, should the right man be available. They don't nor won't be hiring a Big 12 cast off or WAC Wunderkind anytime soon, should it become time to make a change. Sincerely, $C, Texas, Florida, Michigan, Nebraska, Miami, Florida State (2001-2012), Penn State, and Notre ShameCoogs like anything that keeps the Huskies down.
So you guys are saying that neither Mark Helfrich nor Oregon will contend for NC's on a yearly basis? But seriously folksIf Oregon becomes anything less than a top 10 program, Helfrich will be door.ass.out. and Oregon will offer $7MM per year to upgrade the coach. Chip Kelly took Oregon from being a nice top 20 program to a national contender. And they've been there for 5 plus years now. Hiring Mark Helfrich made the most sense since the likes of Rich Rod, Todd Graham and others who run a similar scheme weren't available. Should Oregon drop off to even 10-3 next year, without a strong closing run. Oregon would make a change even then, should the right man be available. They don't nor won't be hiring a Big 12 cast off or WAC Wunderkind anytime soon, should it become time to make a change.
So you guys are saying that neither Mark Helfrich nor Oregon will contend for NC's on a yearly basis? But seriously folksIf Oregon becomes anything less than a top 10 program, Helfrich will be door.ass.out. and Oregon will offer $7MM per year to upgrade the coach. Chip Kelly took Oregon from being a nice top 20 program to a national contender. And they've been there for 5 plus years now. Hiring Mark Helfrich made the most sense since the likes of Rich Rod, Todd Graham and others who run a similar scheme weren't available. Should Oregon drop off to even 10-3 next year, without a strong closing run. Oregon would make a change even then, should the right man be available. They don't nor won't be hiring a Big 12 cast off or WAC Wunderkind anytime soon, should it become time to make a change. Sincerely, $C, Texas, Florida, Michigan, Nebraska, Miami, Florida State (2001-2012), Penn State, and Notre ShameCoogs like anything that keeps the Huskies down. True Doogs think that Oregon's fortunes somehow has something to do with them. I think Oregon has been given the respect they deserve from husky fans. Good to great program that owns the pac but hasn't reached the mountain top. Sure Huskies should probably keep their mouths shut about UO, but whatever. It's funny how coogs have been bigger duck fans than quooks this last decade.
What fucking evidence is there that Helfrich is more like Larry Coker than Tom Osborne?Do some actual analysis and then pop off
As a relative noob here, I must say that the trolling, copy pasta of things people said for months on end, and bumping of ancient threads here is fuckin magnificent. You all are savages and I applaud you.
Bump of the year. AZduck looks like a dumbfuck. Well..he always looks like a dumbfuck, but more so here.
Bump of the year. AZduck looks like a dumbfuck. Well..he always looks like a dumbfuck, but more so here. Every non-quook was worried as fuck about Sling after the AZ game his first year. It wasn't a great year but they won the gas station bowl against Texas in Texas, historically that's a big deal for any Pac-12 team not named USC.The next year they play for an NC. Obviously that's a good year. The next year they probably make the playoffs again if Adams doesn't break his hand week one. If Adams doesn't get a concussion in the gas station bowl the Ducks win that thing by 50 and everyone is still on board. Up to this point you didn't have to be a quook to say he had done a pretty decent job overall. However, Adams got said concussion, they blow the biggest lead in history and every non-quook jumps ship. Remember, you're a winner until you're not and he was up to that point.Year four he loses the Nebraska game by himself with the stupid fucking 2 point "we do what we do" shit. Quooks start to get nervous. Colorado, the stupid fucking fade call on 1st down blows the game. Quooks are getting restless.UW ass rapes us. Quooks are becoming vocal.Lost the CW to a historically bad Beavie team. Quooks revolt. The bleeding is stopped. The keep the seat warm after a great coach thing never works out, but myself and other non-quooks were supportive until it was time to move on. I wanted Oregon to hire Dan Mullen instead of Sling and said that countless times. It seemed like a no brainer to me. He would have at least tried.
Your program was shown to the entire country for what it was. The epic quook pressing on this board has been unreal. LSU, Ohio State, Auburn, they all laughed at your meth'd out excuses and bullshit exclamations of "We'll be back!" Christ. The Committee has seen enough out of you marshmallows. Oregon is fucked. Helfrich is a fucking loser (he's from Oregon, of course he is). Oregon was arrogant in promoting clueless morons like Pellum, who wouldn't understand defense if it cut a hole in the back of his pimp suit and fucked him in the ass. The butthurt in this post proves the point that 1.) It's best to be a quook. 2.) It's worse to be a doog. 3.) It can't get any worse than being a cuog. By your outburst on Monday ... didn't seem too fun to be a quook, but was sure hella fun to be a doog. Playing in the national championship and losing is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuing to being dog food in the PAC 12 for the foreseeable future.
Your program was shown to the entire country for what it was. The epic quook pressing on this board has been unreal. LSU, Ohio State, Auburn, they all laughed at your meth'd out excuses and bullshit exclamations of "We'll be back!" Christ. The Committee has seen enough out of you marshmallows. Oregon is fucked. Helfrich is a fucking loser (he's from Oregon, of course he is). Oregon was arrogant in promoting clueless morons like Pellum, who wouldn't understand defense if it cut a hole in the back of his pimp suit and fucked him in the ass. The butthurt in this post proves the point that 1.) It's best to be a quook. 2.) It's worse to be a doog. 3.) It can't get any worse than being a cuog. By your outburst on Monday ... didn't seem too fun to be a quook, but was sure hella fun to be a doog.
Your program was shown to the entire country for what it was. The epic quook pressing on this board has been unreal. LSU, Ohio State, Auburn, they all laughed at your meth'd out excuses and bullshit exclamations of "We'll be back!" Christ. The Committee has seen enough out of you marshmallows. Oregon is fucked. Helfrich is a fucking loser (he's from Oregon, of course he is). Oregon was arrogant in promoting clueless morons like Pellum, who wouldn't understand defense if it cut a hole in the back of his pimp suit and fucked him in the ass. The butthurt in this post proves the point that 1.) It's best to be a quook. 2.) It's worse to be a doog. 3.) It can't get any worse than being a cuog.
Your program was shown to the entire country for what it was. The epic quook pressing on this board has been unreal. LSU, Ohio State, Auburn, they all laughed at your meth'd out excuses and bullshit exclamations of "We'll be back!" Christ. The Committee has seen enough out of you marshmallows. Oregon is fucked. Helfrich is a fucking loser (he's from Oregon, of course he is). Oregon was arrogant in promoting clueless morons like Pellum, who wouldn't understand defense if it cut a hole in the back of his pimp suit and fucked him in the ass.
Oregon is clearly on top this year but what happens with Mariota and a bunch of Kelly recruited / coached players move on? Players like Royce Freeman?Other than Mariota, who is in a league by himself of course in terms of his importance to Oregon, Freeman had as big a hand in Oregon's run this season as any other player. Helfrich got him. Helfrich also found and recruited Mariota fwiw, though the guy in charge at the time gets the credit ... that's how it works.So he's shown himself to be a good recruiter by Oregon's standards. That's a start. Coker didn't recruit anybody. Butch and some key assistants not named Uncle Fester did the recruiting. Pete Garcia, their operations guy, was also huge in that program.You gotta know the details of the programs you're talking about - not you HFNY; the author - before you can really dial this shit down.
Oregon is clearly on top this year but what happens with Mariota and a bunch of Kelly recruited / coached players move on?
This is now my favoritest HH thread of all the times
I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.Did Chest die or something?
I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.Did Chest die or something? As I recall, Chester distanced himself from HCH in an effort to go more mainstream and get access to the AD. Fine, do yo thing. But he kinda shit on Derek on the way out the door.
Bump of the year. AZduck looks like a dumbfuck. Well..he always looks like a dumbfuck, but more so here. Every non-quook was worried as fuck about Sling after the AZ game his first year. It wasn't a great year but they won the gas station bowl against Texas in Texas, historically that's a big deal for any Pac-12 team not named USC.The next year they play for an NC. Obviously that's a good year. The next year they probably make the playoffs again if Adams doesn't break his hand week one. If Adams doesn't get a concussion in the gas station bowl the Ducks win that thing by 50 and everyone is still on board. Up to this point you didn't have to be a quook to say he had done a pretty decent job overall. However, Adams got said concussion, they blow the biggest lead in history and every non-quook jumps ship. Remember, you're a winner until you're not and he was up to that point.Year four he loses the Nebraska game by himself with the stupid fucking 2 point "we do what we do" shit. Quooks start to get nervous. Colorado, the stupid fucking fade call on 1st down blows the game. Quooks are getting restless.UW ass rapes us. Quooks are becoming vocal.Lost the CW to a historically bad Beavie team. Quooks revolt. The bleeding is stopped. The keep the seat warm after a great coach thing never works out, but myself and other non-quooks were supportive until it was time to move on. I wanted Oregon to hire Dan Mullen instead of Sling and said that countless times. It seemed like a no brainer to me. He would have at least tried. Good news is, the Ducks are implementing the same S&C program as the ENTIRE SEC. Instant wins. Or not. EWIWBI
I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.Did Chest die or something? As I recall, Chester distanced himself from HCH in an effort to go more mainstream and get access to the AD. Fine, do yo thing. But he kinda shit on Derek on the way out the door. Grundle obviously remembers the time I innocently referred to Chest as Chester and he got indignant about it.
I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.Did Chest die or something? As I recall, Chester distanced himself from HCH in an effort to go more mainstream and get access to the AD. Fine, do yo thing. But he kinda shit on Derek on the way out the door. Now we shit on Chest for good luck
Chest was right.
